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CK2 Dev Diary #84 - Renovating Russia

Greetings!

Today we’re going back into the cartographer’s office to view the latest maps of the vast lands that lie just before the eternal steppes, where the Volga flows - the land of the proud Rus’. The Russian lands have always felt rather underdeveloped in CK2 compared to their size, even very important sites such as Kiev or Novgorod have been occupied by massive Counties that hardly give the area justice. As the area is one which lies in between the lords of feudal western europe, the Roman remnants in Byzantium and the relentless nomads of the steppes we thought it much too interesting to not develop further.

As Russia is quite big, we’ve broken the images up into three parts. These pictures are all from the year 769, so if something isn’t named as you expect it to be (i.e. Novgorod being named Ilmen) that’s the reason why.

Starting off with the north:
RussiaDD_North.png

As you can see, the definition has increased rather significantly. Historicity has also been improved, as the new borders are all based on sources from between the years ~600 to ~1300 (From proto-slavic tribes migrating in the area to the dissolution of the Kievan Rus' by internal strife and the Mongol hordes) with a focus on the 700-1100 timespan.

Now the south:
RussiaDD_South.png

Of primary note is that Kiev is now split up, and no longer one single humongous County. Those of you with sharp eyes might also notice that there is a new nomadic nation up by Radimichia and Severia - the Burtas clan, which is Turkic.

And as a bonus, Wallachia:
RussiaDD_Wallachia.png

As Bessarabia was so interconnected with the Kievan and Crimean lands, it felt right to also give the kingdom of Wallachia a facelift.

And now for the De Jure maps, as they have been requested in every previous map Dev Diary so far!

Duchies:
RussiaDD_769DeJureDuchies.png


Kingdoms:
RussiaDD_769DeJureKingdoms.png


You may notice that the old Rus’ kingdom is gone, replaced with the much more historical kingdoms of Novgorod and Vladimir. There are also several new smaller kingdoms, such as Galicia-Volhynia and Chernigov which both provide new opportunities and new risks, depending on if you’re playing in the Tribal era or Feudal era.

Empires:
RussiaDD_769DeJureEmpires.png

There was no doubt that the Tartarian empire was too big, that’s why when we had to add to it (the Kingdom of Perm is now part of it instead of Russia) we felt the need to break it up. In the south you can now see an empire of the Pontic Steppe - closely representing the Khazarian sphere of influence at its height.

Here’s a screenshot of how the 867 setup will look:
RussiaDD_867.png

And here’s 1066:
RussiaDD_1066.png

The major thing in this date is that after Yaroslav the Wise's death in 1054, his land in the Kievan Rus was divided between his 5 sons. Internal strife erupted quickly after between the sons and other relatives (like the prince of Polotsk), hurting the stability of the state.

That's why although the Kievan Rus' still existed as somewhat centralized around the Grand Prince of Kiev, at least for a while, unity wasn't the key word to describe the state. We've reflected that by keeping the different duchies independent but still tributaries to Kiev - until civil war starts again when brothers, sons, and cousins start pushing for their claims...

Changelog:
Code:
- Map Update to Russia
   - Major overhaul of the whole russian sphere
    - All major & minor rivers reshaped
    - e_russia is now created through 5 kingdoms (Ruthenia, Novgorod, Vladimir, Chernigov & Galicia-Volhynia)
    - 3 new kingdoms : Vladimir, Chernigov, Galicia-Volhynia
    - k_rus renamed from "Rus" to "Novgorod"
    - 4 new duchies (Cherven Cities, Karachev, Novosil, Murom)
    - 37 new provinces added to the general area
    - A few titular russian-tribes-themed duchies added for earlier startdates

Note that from now on, CK2 Dev Diaries will take place on Fridays rather than Mondays!
 
I wonder if the name Kievan Rus is culture-related or otherwise.

Will Kievan Rus be a titular title to be created?

Given that it doesn't appear in the de jure maps, is this "Kievan Rus" a titular kingdom, or is it a cultural name for Ruthenia?

Kievan Rus will be an alternate name for the kingdom of Ruthenia under certain conditions, not an additional title. I don't remember if it's going to be only culture related, but yeah, if you're for example Nahua (best culture from best DLC) it'll just be called "Ruthenia"

Will you also add more count-tier vassals to the russian principalities in 1066 and beyond?

Not planned no. Although if you have some solid suggestions with sources, as always, feel free to PM me and I'll se what I can do

What about us who already have the achievement, do we get to keep it because I did an entire play though to get that

Nah don't worry, you should still retain your achievement


Arthur
 
Pretty sure you can't lose already obtained achievements, unless they make a completely new one but that's very unlikely.

Thank you was not sure about anything

However, if you wish to wipe all of your achievements simply type 'wipe_achievements' into the console :D.
 
Kievan Rus will be an alternate name for the kingdom of Ruthenia under certain conditions, not an additional title. I don't remember if it's going to be only culture related, but yeah, if you're for example Nahua (best culture from best DLC) it'll just be called "Ruthenia"

Sweet, thanks! I love all these new titles and names.
 
Make some Slavic artifact Plz. Axe of Perun is trash now. It has no beneficial synergy with Slavic cultures retinue and It's Martial and Personal Combat Skill is lower than 3~4 level artifacts.
 
The frustration I've always had with Russia is that if you want to be the Republic of Novgorod you can't have your capital in Novgorod. In bookmarks where Novgorod is a republic, it's unplayable for the same reason. The coastal capital requirement is sad!
 
Taurica for k_crimea, is just as bad as Russia for e_russia. Should be Rus and Crimea
Or Rusia from Latin which is one of the alternative names for Ruthenia and is different from Russia. We really don't have to use endonymes when we have normal names.
 
Will there be any changes to nomads this patch? They still keep dying out a hundred years into the game and I don't see that changing with all the new counties Eastern Europe is getting.
 
You guys never cease to amaze me :D However, I'd like to point out that the Burtas were a mix of Finno-Ugrians and Iranians(Alans). They were turkified under the rule of Khazars and Bolghars, but at least some of them practised burning burials. Gorodez has been speculated to been their capital at some point. They should probably be either Mordvin or maybe Alan, except if you give them their own culture that should be under Finno-Ugric or Altaic group, though I'd prefer the former. Religion wise, Tengri is fine as it shows the Turkic influence.
 
So you remove the kingdom of Taurica in like the last patch and now add in a kingdom of Crimea?
Also no break of of the huge duchies on the white sea coast?
Oh and Sarkel is also a really large duchy.
 
Pskov now have access to the sea. This changes everything. Also, no need to push to Perm to get Empire. Gameplay will change drasticly, as no need to some insane landgrabs in a middle of nowhere to be able to form an Empire