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EU4 - Development Diary - 24th of March 2020

Hi and Welcome to yet another Europa Universalis Development Diary!

We talked a little bit about what is happening to the Catholic Faith in a development diary back in August 2019. Let's delve into that at first, before we talk about completely new features, and remember. All of this is part of the Emperor Expansion.

Curia Coffers
First of all, the Curia has its own pool of money, the Curia Coffers, which is accumulated each month from contributions from each catholic country. The contribution depends on the development controlled by the Clergy estate in each country. Catholic Nations can also Buy Indulgence to increase the Curia Coffers and

The Curia Coffers can then be spent on the following.
  • Call the Ecumenical Council
  • Assign Cardinals
  • Investigate Heresy
  • Papal Bulls
  • Council of Trent Actions.
Ecumenical Council
The Ecumenical Council is a way for the Papal Controller to siphon their own money into the Curia Coffers to increase their influence to become the next Papal Controller.

Cardinals
Assigning Cardinals is a new Diplomatic Action that Curia Controller can do. By spending an amount of the Curia Coffers the target nation will gain a Cardinal. The Curia Controller gains influence towards becoming the controller at the next papal election, and the target nation increases their opinion of the Curia Controller.

The Pope can also spend their own money to Appoint a Cardinal from one of their own provinces, if any of them lack a Cardinal. This increases Corruption by 5%, but sometimes it is needed.

Of course there will be Cardinals appointed automatically each year as before.
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Investigate Heresy
Investigate Heresy is an action where the Papal Controller can spend money from the Curia Coffers to reduce the Reform Desire by 5%, while making Reform Desire grow 10% faster in the future. This is a way to delay the Reformation if you so desire.

Golden Bulls
For each Pope, the Curia Controller can pick one new Golden Bull, which will define that Pope’s life. This of course cost money from the Curia Coffers, and there are six different Golden Bulls to pick from. What is interesting with these Golden Bulls, is the fact that they affect ALL catholic nations.

Apostolicae Servitutis
-50% Curia Power Cost (The old Catholic Ones)

Christian Pictas

-5% Development Cost
+1 Tolerance of Heretics

Dei Gratia Rex

+0.5 Yearly Absolutism
-2 Unrest in Catholic Provinces
-25% Drill Decay

Illius Qui Se Pro Divini

Enabled Crusades after the Age limit!

Immensa Aeterni Dei

-10% Institution Embracement cost
+25% Institution Spread
Cardinals will spread institution if the institution has been embraced in a province of another Cardinal or the capital of the Curia(Rome).

Libertas Ecclesiae:

+20% Imperial Authority Growth
+15 Imperial Reform Approval by Catholic Princes
Available if Emperor & Catholic is Official Religion of the Empire


Council of Trent
A few decades after the Reformation has started to ravage Europe, there will be something called The Council of Trent that will last about 50 years at maximum, or until the Papal Controller has picked four different changes to the Church.

When the Council is active, rulers of Catholic Nations can set their position as either Harsh or Conciliatory. At default all nations are neutral, and at every new ruler in your nation you get the opportunity to change your position.

Neutral Position
-33% Resistance to Reformation Centers.

Harsh Position
-20 Opinion of Heretics
+25% Resistance to Reformation Centers
+2% Missionary Strength
-25% Institution Spread

Conciliatory Position
+10 Opinion of Heretics
+25% Resistance to Reformation Centers
+25% Improve Relations
-5% Heretic Missionary Strength

The Curia Controller is the one that picks the concessions, and they are quite costly, costing 2000 gold from the Curia Coffers, which is reduced by up to 1500 depending how many Cardinals that are from Countries supporting the stance taken in the concession. And you can only take one concession in each pair, and the effect is applied to all Catholic nations. The Harsh ones all add -20 opinion of heretics to all Catholic countries, and Conciliatory adds +10 opinion, so the Papal Controller can really control how fractured Christianity will be during the Council.


First Concession
Heresy Trials (Harsh) +1% Heretic Missionary Strength
Secret Confessions (Conciliatory) +2 Tolerance of Heretics

Second Concession
Roman Catechism (Harsh) +10% True Faith Institution Spread
Non-Latin Bible (Conciliatory) +5% Institution Spread

Third Concession
Soldiers of Christ (Harsh) +10% Manpower in True Faith
Rescinding Celibacy (Conciliatory) +5% Manpower

Fourth Concession
Catholic Mysticism (Harsh) -10% Warscore Cost vs Other Religions
Sola Fide (Conciliatory) -20% Curia Power Cost
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Hope you enjoyed this short but detailed Development diary, and next week we’ll talk more about the Imperial Diet.
 
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Apostolicae Servitutis
-50% Curia Power Cost (The old Catholic Ones)
What do mean by "old Catholic ones"? I don't see the old Curia abilities of spending Curia Power for boosting your chance of being Pope, Stability, Taxes etc.
 
What do mean by "old Catholic ones"? I don't see the old Curia abilities of spending Curia Power for boosting your chance of being Pope, Stability, Taxes etc.

You can now script curia powers to also cost from the Curia treasury, this cost is not affected by that modifier.
We have right now one which uses that which Johan is showing of. Investigate Heresy.
 
Just a question,since all these features for Catholics are part of the Emperor dlc,how does this will work for people without Emperor?Like before 1.30 or there will be some free reworks for Catholics too?
Thanks for any replies about this.
 
Just a question,since all these features for Catholics are part of the Emperor dlc,how does this will work for people without Emperor?Like before 1.30 or there will be some free reworks for Catholics too?
Thanks for any replies about this.

It will work like before
 
The Curia Coffers can then be spent on the following.
  • Call the Ecumenical Council
  • (...)
Ecumenical Council
The Ecumenical Council is a way for the Papal Controller to siphon their own money into the Curia Coffers to increase their influence to become the next Papal Controller.
This seems a bit confusing to me. Curia Coffers can be spent on Ecumenical Council, bu the Controller can "siphon their own money into the Curia Coffers". So which way does the money go in the end? From Controller to Coffers or vice versa?
 
This seems a bit confusing to me. Curia Coffers can be spent on Ecumenical Council, bu the Controller can "siphon their own money into the Curia Coffers". So which way does the money go in the end? From Controller to Coffers or vice versa?

It goes from the Pope's treasury into the Curia treasury.
 
Too bad it doesnt even come close to Orthodox.
33% Manpower 5% Disc or 10% dev/building reduction on Orthodox. Maybe there will be some significant nerfs announced for orthodox but i dont see this new catholic mechanics on par with even protestant military wise.
 
@Groogy
Some little questions
1)Are the concession reforms from the councile of Trent permanent, even after the Counter Reformation ends?
2) Will the Counter Reformation decision still exist with +2 missionaries etc?
3) Are non european nations like Kongo, Ming and Japan now also able to get cardinals and become Curia controller?
 
Are Protestants/Reformed seeing any changes? Even before Emperor, they weren't really any better than Catholism and after this patch Catholism seems so much better than them that the player has little reason to convert.
 
What about cardinals outside of Europe?
 
Are Protestants/Reformed seeing any changes? Even before Emperor, they weren't really any better than Catholism and after this patch Catholism seems so much better than them that the player has little reason to convert.
Protestant: 5% dev cost, 5% idea cost, 10% production efficiency, 10% manpower recovery, 5% morale, 2,5% disc.
Reformed: 10% Morale, 10% Trade Efficiency

I dont know which game ur playing but catholic doesnt even come close to it now. And even later, reformed is always better for a naval/trade nation and protestant is just overall better. more flexible more military bonuses.
 
i really wish, that reformation can be prevented PERMANENTELY. Keep reform desire low until 1550 may be...
It would be such good thing for an acheivement.

I mean, it should be possible if you prevent reformation from happening until 1610. Since there are no reformation centers in age of absolutism.
 
Protestant: 5% dev cost, 5% idea cost, 10% production efficiency, 10% manpower recovery, 5% morale, 2,5% disc.
Reformed: 10% Morale, 10% Trade Efficiency

I dont know which game ur playing but catholic doesnt even come close to it now. And even later, reformed is always better for a naval/trade nation and protestant is just overall better. more flexible more military bonuses.

Except you can really only have half of those. You also ignored the only actually good reformed fervor ability (-2 unrest, +1 dip rep.)

Meanwhile, Catholics get:

pretty much permanent stab 3 and depending how much pope mana you generate +1 diplo rep, 15% manpower recovery, 15% tax rate...
Treaty of Tordesillas
Occasional papal controller for -20% AE and tech cost reduction and diplomat.
If Iberian, you get Societas Jesu and the Monastic Orders.
 
Will you please remove the nonsensical Como province, @Johan , and replace it with a Ticino province that makes any sense? In that map, Switzerland can't gain Ticino without taking away Como, and Milan can't keep Como without retaining Ticino - which is as if Calais included Kent.

The two were kept separated (with varying internal borders) since at least the 1200s, and the current Como province makes no sense. Fix it.

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