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EU4 - Development Diary - 27th of November 2018

Good day all and welcome to a new development diary for EU4. We have by now covered most all of the gameplay content and features coming with Golden Century and the 1.28 Spain Update. Today, let's get to some of the eye candy.

As Golden Century is an Immersion Pack, that means it comes with new unit models built-in. It also contains new music focused on Spain and the New World.

First, let's check out the Units. While the majors in the region already enjoy their own unit models, we reached out to those who have long deserved their own and have added infantry models for Granada, Navarra, Galicia/Leon and Salé. Each get 4 different models, one for each Tier of unit as warfare evolves with the integration of the firearm.

Granada will do well to see themselves into the era where they can use firearms, but at least they'll look dapper until then.
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Navarra may have lost her coast, but she gained a good mesh of functional and elegant gear.
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Leon and Galicia, the releasable nations from Castile, both share their unit models, but keep a distinct look from their Castilian brothers.
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Salé, the potential pirate nation of the Maghreb, already look like they are up to no good, and appear to have already plundered rifles.
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Now the plan was to make 5 different unit packs and have Andalucia as our 5th set. As we were concepting these designs though, we felt there was too much overspill between Granada and Andalucia model designs. As such, we decided that Granada and Andalucia would share their models, and we would still make a 5th set of models, but for our new additions in the Caribbean.

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Caribbean Pirates themselves have received new unit models, evolving through the ages and, while we resisted the call of Hollywood designs, keeping to a more fitting, if threatening look.

Although the addition of unit models in Golden Century is not limited to the units on land, we have also given the Iberians, as well as the Berbers, their own Ship Designs. These extend to all 17 different unit models seen in the game.

Let's use the heavy ships as an example, for the Iberians they will get new ship looks from the smallest of Carracks
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To the mightiest of threedeckers.
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Similar story for the Berbers.
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As a final note, there will be three pretty sweet music tracks added with Golden Century. Sadly I cannot share these in all their glory right now, but we do have a preview of one of the tracks which was played during our First Look stream of Golden Century last week. Check it out here:


(43:30 timestamp for the music)

That's our lot for today. We'll be back next week to shed light on the ten new Achievements which will be added in 1.28 Spain.

EDIT 2018-12-06: CLICK HERE FOR RENDERS!
 
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Hi guys,

The heated discussion goes on. I thought I'd just pop by and say a few things:

- Just because we don't reply specifically to a concern, it doesn't mean it's not being read and understood
- A lot of the stuff in here is repetitions of what's been said before. And we have replied to a lot of the things said before

I'm sorry, but you haven't actually replied. The only things addressed were the Spanish ideas (essentially copied from the forums - not saying it's necessarily bad) and a comment saying the Iberian map will not be further changed after the respective DD reached 55 pages (biggest one ever) and another different thread on it got a lot of traction. All the other issues pointed out, of which are several, have not been addressed. A simple comment on it would have been appreciated. More specifically for example, in the stream the only mention of Portuguese ideas was: "I don't think Portuguese ideas have been changed". This after weeks and weeks of player feedback, fact supported with historical evidence and proper civil arguments. We would have been happy with a comment along the lines of "We have chosen not to change Portuguese ideas because we would like to keep it as a money making tutorial nation" - even that would have been less disregarding than complete silence.

My point is that this 'beehive' is totally unwarranted, and is exactly the reason the devs are afraid of saying anything. If it wasn't so heated in this thread the devs would probably be replying a lot to what people say.

And I am sorry, but this is not the first DD where most of the community have come forward with complaints. It is however the first one where tones got raised, because thus far all we have had has been silence.

And don't get me wrong, I love all the work Paradox has done so far in every other aspect except for this DLC because there was poor management of expectations. I am not expressing my distaste for their work, they have given me many hours of fun and joy. But as a customer I think I am allowed to voice my opinion. And I have been quite diplomatic.
 
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Hi guys,

The heated discussion goes on. I thought I'd just pop by and say a few things:

- Just because we don't reply specifically to a concern, it doesn't mean it's not being read and understood
- A lot of the stuff in here is repetitions of what's been said before. And we have replied to a lot of the things said before
- It's saddening that there are people so disappointed by the content of this Immersion Pack. We have revised and reacted to some of the criticism, but we can't react to it all
- Personal attacks and discussions regarding developers personalities, skills or qualifications will not be tolerated at all. You are allowed any opinion you want on the matter, but we will not let you spread this kind of toxicity in our forum. This is our workplace.
- We always welcome constructive criticism, but see the first three points in this post

To try and keep a civil discussion going and making sure that additions to the discussion (meaning things that hasn't been said many times before) isn't drowned out, we'll have to be more active with deleting posts.

Foul language, personal attacks and other rule violations will be dealt with accordingly.

Thank you for your time. And as always I'd like to thank you for your passion for our game. It's 5 years old and we are still able to work on it because of you. We appreciate that it's your love for the game that fuels the less constructive and more toxic comments in here. And even though I can understand some of the the heated feelings, I can not tolerate it creating a hostile environment.

Best Regards
BjornB
You have a passionate community and your games are really good.
I have bought all your DLCs (content packs too).
Would be nice if you gave back us some love we passionately give to you.

Sorry if some of us are really annoyed and write things showing our frustration after being hyped for having a little attention after years you have been focused in other parts of the glove.

Hope you understand it.

Best regards
 
Hi guys,

The heated discussion goes on. I thought I'd just pop by and say a few things:

- Just because we don't reply specifically to a concern, it doesn't mean it's not being read and understood
- A lot of the stuff in here is repetitions of what's been said before. And we have replied to a lot of the things said before
- It's saddening that there are people so disappointed by the content of this Immersion Pack. We have revised and reacted to some of the criticism, but we can't react to it all
- Personal attacks and discussions regarding developers personalities, skills or qualifications will not be tolerated at all. You are allowed any opinion you want on the matter, but we will not let you spread this kind of toxicity in our forum. This is our workplace.
- We always welcome constructive criticism, but see the first three points in this post

To try and keep a civil discussion going and making sure that additions to the discussion (meaning things that hasn't been said many times before) isn't drowned out, we'll have to be more active with deleting posts.

Foul language, personal attacks and other rule violations will be dealt with accordingly.

Thank you for your time. And as always I'd like to thank you for your passion for our game. It's 5 years old and we are still able to work on it because of you. We appreciate that it's your love for the game that fuels the less constructive and more toxic comments in here. And even though I can understand some of the the heated feelings, I can not tolerate it creating a hostile environment.

Best Regards
BjornB


Dear @BjornB , are you going to do something with Tenerife? It is an important issue that has not been answered even once.
 
I think it would be better in future with regards to Immersion Packs to solely focus on the primary theme of the Immersion Pack. In this case, being Iberia. Given that the Immersion Packs are supposed to be small by design. In this DLC there is a lot of other content for the Maghreb, Granada and Caribbean pirates (whom usually were generally French or English pirates raiding Spanish New World territories & ships). It's nice content, but it's not really appropriate for the namesake of this DLC when most of it should have been geared for Spain and Portugal.
 
Hi guys,

The heated discussion goes on. I thought I'd just pop by and say a few things:

- Just because we don't reply specifically to a concern, it doesn't mean it's not being read and understood
- A lot of the stuff in here is repetitions of what's been said before. And we have replied to a lot of the things said before
- It's saddening that there are people so disappointed by the content of this Immersion Pack. We have revised and reacted to some of the criticism, but we can't react to it all
- Personal attacks and discussions regarding developers personalities, skills or qualifications will not be tolerated at all. You are allowed any opinion you want on the matter, but we will not let you spread this kind of toxicity in our forum. This is our workplace.
- We always welcome constructive criticism, but see the first three points in this post

To try and keep a civil discussion going and making sure that additions to the discussion (meaning things that hasn't been said many times before) isn't drowned out, we'll have to be more active with deleting posts.

Foul language, personal attacks and other rule violations will be dealt with accordingly.

Thank you for your time. And as always I'd like to thank you for your passion for our game. It's 5 years old and we are still able to work on it because of you. We appreciate that it's your love for the game that fuels the less constructive and more toxic comments in here. And even though I can understand some of the the heated feelings, I can not tolerate it creating a hostile environment.

Best Regards
BjornB
True, they read our post, let them do what they need to do, Is one of the companies that listen to us.
If you do not like something do not buy it, but we are gamers not hooligans
 
nice design
...but do the pirates wear eyepatches on their unit design???
Funny thing is the eyepatches are real, and the movies underestimate how common they were. They are a result of using the jacob's staff, a crude counterpart of the sextant to much. It requires you to look into the sun with one eye repeatedly which cause blindness.
 
Stop cry and the hate, all know that GC is not the best DLC but the forum is not a football match...be polite.
With time hope you can add some buffs to Spain or Portugal and PDX thx for EU4.
I'll buy the DLC
How can they talk about the golden century of iberians, if in this DLC they only increase the potential of the enemies of the Iberians? in exchange for a handful of ideas. Can you imagine what would have happened if in rule britannia the bufs had received them france?
 
Pirates were. Nations of pirates with its own diplomacy, economy, taxation,etc were not.
What pirates were in history would be represented by rebels in EU4.
The brotherhood of Tortuga would like a word with you. Taxation, check, economy check, diplomacy, well they did manage to get financial support from britain whenever spain and britain were at odds so sort of check.
 
Nah, Rule Britannia was worse
Atleast in RB they reworked the irish and the scots a little. Portugal just got skipped as a whole and were given the leftovers from spain.

I bought all dlcs and even the immersion packs for Britain and Russia. They were atleast OK, but iberian expansion is just so poorly made, rushed and will be first dlc that i will be skipping.
 
Adding three buttons to spend your mana on is not meaningful content. And let's not forget the disastrous Spanish province rework that showed how the developers couldn't care about this DLC and just did it for the money. 0 historical research, Asturias tag added for the sake of adding it instead of something, that even it might not have existed independent, it could actually be more believable like the kingdom of Toledo. We even had to demand a Balearic Islands tag.

BTW, what happened to Valencia and Balearian tags, they don't exist? No NI's no new units?
Let's talk about the fact that Portugal got only 1 new province that looks like a tumor protuding into the old provinces of Portugal. Portugal only got 2 new provinces since 1.0, and this is counting the new one they are going to add. Ireland got 8 new provinces.

And what about the rework of the NI's of Spain that had to be corrected because it was awful and Castillian ideas still have ahistorical flavor?
Portugal hasn't got new NI's
Berbers still have trash tier NI's

Should I complain more or that's enough for you?

The Asturias tag made sense for any game imported from CK2 in which you don't rename the Asturias kingdom to Leon.
 
*cringe* the Maghreb wasn't even conquered! They only lost a couple of coastal cities and forts to the Portuguese, but no nation was able to conquer them entirely in the entire eu4 timeframe, not even the Ottomans.


Bulshit.
Portugal was never a good colonizer nation, they were the first to start exploration and colonialism and they only colonized Brazil.
Spain colonized almost the entire new World, Brittain and France colonized more than Portugal even though they started doing so 2 centuries after. Portugal was all about conquering centers of trade, ports and coastal fortresses and cities from everyone in the Indic ocean. They didn't have the population to colonize.
They weren't good at trade either, there is a reason why Portugal has been a poor nation in compared to western Europe througth history, the only exception being the 1500 - 1560's not because they were magically good with trade then, but because the conquered a bunch of territory in Africa and Asia which secured a monopoly over the sea routes to Asia, their trade empire was only effective as long as there was no competition.
Their armies were able to defend from Castille, Spain, France, and slap the netherlands around the world while massively outnumbered and with a much weaker economy, all of these have great military bonuses, portugal has none. Portugal also conquered many cities and forts in North Africa and Asia against much numerically superior foes, and no, there was no military technological superiority of Europe over Asia and North Africa in the 16th century to be a decisive factor.
The only problem with the Portuguese military was manpower. I dare you to find out a single battle where Portugal outnumbered the enemy and still lost that could possibly justify their military being literally the worst in the game (since there are no negative bonuses, no bonuses is the worst possible situation)
Also the Portuguese fleet was massive and extremely Powerful, they were far ahead of the world in shipbuilding technology during the discovery age, the Portuguese ships were the largest and with the most firepower of their time.
Ever hear of the "Spanish Armada"? Most of the main fighting ships were actually Portuguese ships, and no, Brittain didn't beat them, a storm did.


Glad we agree.
After all negativity its fine to see someone replying sanely.
 
I'll probably buy it at some point if only because I like the unit models and I like micro managing RP stuff like cultures in my campaigns. Kind of neutral on the DLC over all. Kind of disappointing for those who were really invested in it for so long though considering there was a strong undercurrent of "Iberia needs an update" for at least a couple of years.
 
I've never seen a dlc for a game be seen so negatively

I don't know why it seems the fans have been ignored with their suggestions on how to improve it, even simple ones like idea improvements and province improvements.
 
The brotherhood of Tortuga would like a word with you. Taxation, check, economy check, diplomacy, well they did manage to get financial support from britain whenever spain and britain were at odds so sort of check.
It is same with Salé as well. It was a nation. People should rather read piracy history from different sources. Sadly, cause of their "unholy" lifestyle pirates were shamed to ground for ages by history writers. It reached a point that they were called savages.
 
It just doesn't feel like this inmersion pack is focused on Castille/Spain and Portugal at all, it seems equal thought has been given to nations that didn't do anything in the RL timeline. I like to have options but countries that were so massively influential in history should have a much, much more greater depth of development. And i've always been frustrated with the fact that most mission trees only focus on what the country achieved in history but don't go much further than that.
 
Sigh. People on the interwebz sometimes.. Jesus. To be fair, constructive criticism is alright and dandy but raging and sarcastic trolling isn't. Also, I get that some people are disappointed by some of the features in the DLC, but these Immertion Packs are quite small DLC's and you should probably lower your expectations of them compared to full-blown expansion packs is all I'm saying.
 
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