[exewon]

Another question, would it be possible for a spiritual race to go down the non-spiritualistic paths? Like becoming completely mechanized or focusing on biological evolution? and the other way around for materialistic empires?

I want my priesthood of mars damnit

 

[prismaticmarcus]

You can even make it a complaint-free zone.

 

[The Founder]

It causes the most bad-ass confrontation in the galaxy in the entire history of galaxies. What is more badass than "Cyborgs" vs "Robots".

Well, technically humans are monkeys...

 

[scaper12123]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH, so the ascensions thing is a paid DLC bit. Was hoping that it would be free, but that's fine I suppose. As long as the DLC is pretty substantial.

 

[Ixal]

I hope adopting the endgame perks will create a lot of stability problems in diverse, multiracial empires instead of everyone magically agreeing with becoming robots, etc.

 

[Milten]

The only concern I have about it right now is that ascension paths may add nothing to empire uniqueness, i.e. all materialists turn into synths, spiritualists into unbidden, everyone else just go Hak-Hak. All this would be just linear upgrade path for already existing entities.

 

[Wizzington]

The only concern I have about it right now is that ascension paths may add nothing to empire uniqueness, i.e. all materialists turn into synths, spiritualists into unbidden, everyone else just go Hak-Hak. All this would be just linear upgrade path for already existing entities.

You're not required to go down any of these paths, nor will every AI-controlled empire do so.

 

[Birdy123]

What about religion/spiritualism, or is that filled by the psionic thingies?

Also, since this is part of the paid DLC/expansion, would that destroy the chance of say additional (new) Ascension Perks in the future in other DLCs? As the Ascension perks look like a great idea, but having a one-time system like this without the possibility of expanding upon it further later on sounds a little odd to me.

 

[Madzai]

You're not required to go down any of these paths, nor will every AI-controlled empire do so.

You said that going down ascension require unique techs\quests\special projects etc. Anything special for those who want to stay "normal" in the end? Like some special major social events late game?

 

[Zarathustra_the]

Will there be additonal psionic techs coming with this patch? Psionic weapons maybe and ways to move away from the more base weapons?

 

[AaronArx]

YES! My empire shall finally achieve synthesis!

 

[Haldan]

rights

ghgnghgnghgnghgn

 

[Uxigadur]

So, should i be happy with traditions and no ascension... But all the cool kids in the galaxy are ascending!

 

[Aexrael]

As the mod author of Synthetic Empire I'm not sure I am a fan of these ascension goals. Especially given the interest from the community in playing as a purely synthetic species from the beginning. This popularity have been observed from the various synthetic/robot mods that have popped up since the release of the game. Mods such as Playable Robots, Playable Robots (Fixed), Networked AI and Robots+ among others.

Having an end goal of a transformation to synthetics sounds like a nightmare in having to mod around those goals, or modding vanilla files which was never my desire in the first place.
With Synthetic transformation as an end goal, it would suggest that there is no desire from the devs in implementing native support for a vanilla robotic species from the beginning of the game.

 

[Aegrim]

Any word on some new crisis's? Getting a bit sick of the unbidden every game.

 

[Ixal]

Another question, how will psyonic ability be decided? By spiritualist ethos? A Racial trait you can aquire later? What happens to the pops with a different ethos when you go down that ascension path?

 

[Milten]

With Synthetic transformation as an end goal, it would suggest that there is no desire from the devs in implementing native support for a vanilla robotic species from the beginning of the game.

Have you seen ascension perks and paths for robotic start? I haven't.

You said that going down ascension require unique techs\quests\special projects etc. Anything special for those who want to stay "normal" in the end? Like some special major social events late game?

I'd personally would love to see some downsides for these paths, so one would think twice before taking them.

 

[Mummolus]

Please reconsider having the paths be mutually exclusive, at least for the first perk. An entire population of CyberJedi would be fun.

 

[Kryndude]

One Vision = hive mind?

 

[Ezumiyr]

Well, I really hope that Ascension Perks benefit from other additions, like new, more diverse traits (genemodding already being something that you just do once, and there aren't many traits to pick from anyway), or specific gameplay for Synths (to avoid the "yayyy, I'm now playing with Synths! Which can do amazing things, like... being immortal... fighting harder... and not eating food... yay....).
More techs and events are also nice, but that's not really gameplay if it just provides bonuses and modificators.

I'm not really hyped by Ascension Perks that just provide you plain bonus like border range. I can't really imagine a sci fi universe with something like "By all my positrons, the Metagurd have ascended! - What does this mean, CI80-rg? Do they control the atoms by the power of their minds? Did they become gods? Are they going to... - Their border grew and they claimed our world. Now we are ascended too. Look at that nice border range on the map.".
It feels more like a Tradition. Well, except probably if it's something like a +100% border range, but it doesn't seem fun.

I also hope that this means there's a point in playing in end game. Most of these Ascension Perks seem to provide bonus and new abilities, but if they don't provide new challenges, or if it cannot change the course of things... meh. It would be amazing if the first empire to achieve transcendence could become a threat for the rest of galaxy, even if they are a tiny 3 systems-empire at this point. Not necessarily on the military field, btw. But they could hack the economy of all the other empire without an efficient enough AI to protect them, for example. Or possess the ability to shield their world thanks to their psionic powers. Well, I do hope we'll have these kinds of abilities.
I would really be hyped if, as the first empire to reach the end of the synthetic path, we could embark with our synthetic pops in gigantic nomadic planet-consuming space fortresses, not caring for the lifes of biological pops, and if the other empires could form a galaxy council to oppose us, while the robotic beings of the galaxy could choose between joining our way of life or helping those poor bio units. Basically, becoming the end game crisis.