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Since Liberating planets from an empire creates a new empire with your ethics will Liberating as a Hive Mind Empire create a new Hive Mind empire that will have all non-HM pops, thus eventually dieing out because it might not have the gene-modding tech necessary to turn its pops into Hive Mind pops?

Wiz said in stream, hive minds can't indoctinate or liberate, they arn't able to be liberated either. So in war against a hive mind you need station a pop there cause all the pops on the planet you capture would die.
 
Wiz said in stream, hive minds can't indoctinate or liberate, they arn't able to be liberated either. So in war against a hive mind you need station a pop there cause all the pops on the planet you capture would die.

If the hivemind species can engineer other species into the hivemind, I suspect that it'll be possible to do the reverse.
 
Yeah but requires engineering evolution ascendary perk, so players getting that will be locked out of other two paths.

Damn, you're right on that.

Gonna be a PITA dealing with them then.

Very much Borg though, can assimilate anything they wish to assimilate, but others can't and don't survive/function well away from the hive.
 
Fanatic Purifiers are a Specific Thing, being modelled through a very restrictive Civic only available to a very specific empire build- likewise, Hive Minds appear to be the same thing built through a combination of very restrictive species Traits, an Ethos "hack", and a special government. So, no, there's not going to be crossover like that.
It's possible. After all the Zerg and the Tyranids are both examples of omnicidal hive mind species that strive to eradicate anything other than themselves.
 
It's possible. After all the Zerg and the Tyranids are both examples of omnicidal hive mind species that strive to eradicate anything other than themselves.
You can certainly play a Hive Mind as a relentless warmachine- but "Fanatic Purifiers" represent a very specific thing in Stellaris, and Hive Minds are not the same thing.
 
How so? I'm just saying they should be in the game, but unplayable without the DLC.

Uh, don't you need the DLC in order for the trait to even be available anyway? It's like how the paid features in Leviathans don't show up in those that don't have the DLC. Though I did see one wierd case where one person had posted that a mod had strangely activated features of it, that's been fixed since though.
 
Uh, don't you need the DLC in order for the trait to even be available anyway? It's like how the paid features in Leviathans don't show up in those that don't have the DLC. Though I did see one wierd case where one person had posted that a mod had strangely activated features of it, that's been fixed since though.

Not necessarily, the devs can set the rules however they want. I'm suggesting that the hive mind ethic, authority, and civics be available at species creation, and that the "Select" button for choosing to start a game as a certain species be greyed out unless you have the DLC. So you can create Hive Minds but not play as them.
 
Not necessarily, the devs can set the rules however they want. I'm suggesting that the hive mind ethic, authority, and civics be available at species creation, and that the "Select" button for choosing to start a game as a certain species be greyed out unless you have the DLC. So you can create Hive Minds but not play as them.
And then all you need to do is force spawn a hive mind ai into a map, then use console to switch player and play as them without having DLC. I think devs will have also figured this out hence why it likely wont happen :D
 
Can hive minds be fanatic purifiers? Just clarifying, because you said that Hive Mind species use their own, separate, line of Civics.

I really hope they can. Talk about a "Devouring Cluster!" lol
 
Can hive minds be fanatic purifiers? Just clarifying, because you said that Hive Mind species use their own, separate, line of Civics.

I really hope they can. Talk about a "Devouring Cluster!" lol
The Fanatic Purifier Civic requires a particular combination of Ethos, so no, Hive Minds can not be Fanatic Purifiers.

They might have other military-based, aggression-based Civics- but Hive Minds are fundamentally a different thing than Fanatic Purifiers.
 
Any chance you'll go back and fix the ridiculous Authoritarian vs. Egalitarian nonsense, now that you've got Civics that can help clarify snowflake positions?

The Fanatic Purifier Civic requires a particular combination of Ethos, so no, Hive Minds can not be Fanatic Purifiers.

They might have other military-based, aggression-based Civics- but Hive Minds are fundamentally a different thing than Fanatic Purifiers.
You could easily add an exception to the formula. I think that it's ridiculous that Fanatic Purifiers are so pigeon-holed as to require Militarism and Fanatic Xenophobia, but you could easily add an "or Hive Mind".

I would absolutely love to be a Hive Mind fungus out to eat the galaxy.