Tinto Flavour #26 - 10th June 2025 - Korea and Manchuria

PonuryWojtek · Jun 10, 2025

I'm sure someone mentioned it already yesterday but shouldn't the Shenyang Circuit...well, own it? Shenyang location that is. Or if you need to keep that Manchu ULM then split a separate location form it and then give Shenyang location to Shenyang Circuit.

matfer13 · Jun 10, 2025

Just for curiosity, why did you decide to represent the Jurchens a tribal countries rather than steppe hordes like in EU4?

titan.bevel · Jun 10, 2025

Roger Corominas said:
Missing "NOT" in the second part, fixed

isn't there also a wrong description on the "what will happen without the mongol guidance" ? Or is it working as intended that taking a pro yuan stance still limits your government and cause loss of resources ? Also, Will these events give the appropriate bonus to Yuan ?

Enku7071 · Jun 10, 2025

LordThanatos said:
The religious setup in East Asia makes less sense every time we see more of it.

Eastern Buddhism represents Mahayana Buddhism, Daoism, Confucianism and Folk religions, but not San jiao, and if the folk religion is Tengrism, then that gets an exception for some reason and apparently the fusion of Japanese folk belief - Shinto, gets its own religion to represent the fusion of Buddhism of Shinto, but the combination of Korean folk belief and the combination of Vietnamese folk belief with Buddhism are lumped under the same umbrella as the Chinese religious situation.

Then you have different schools and regional variations of Buddhism as separate beliefs, but you show all the varieties of Hindu thought with IOs, under a single faith even though those are more separate than most Buddhist schools. It does not feel like there's any coherence to this design at all.

I think it's because the game design in itself is unwilling to have more than one religion where the player can control, which brings us to a well-intentioned but fundamentally arcadey religion we currently have, as a sort-of-a middle grounds approach.
I cannot say which direction would be better to go forward, even the other threads mentioning this very issue seems very much divided.

Roger Corominas · Jun 10, 2025

titan.bevel said:
how do the jurchen law policies changes ? War, a parliement, diplomacy ? Something else ?

I guess you refer to the Jurchen Confederacy IO? They are changed through vote by the members of the IO.

Mark_Rynn · Jun 10, 2025

After reading about the Turtle Ships (so cool!), it raised an interesting question for me - will naval units be treated like land units, where their appearance is determined by the culture of the pops that are used to build/crew them?

Enku7071 · Jun 10, 2025

Goblin Slave said:
Does Korea start with serfdom to represent the Nobi? (Korean Slaves/Serfs)

Slavery in Korea - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

iirc there was a special representation of the Nobi, in the Generalist's Korea video.

Varus90 · Jun 10, 2025

I'm sure it's been addressed before, but ruler titles (such as those in China, Korea, and Japan) make these events seem a little awkward when addressing the ruler. Yeah, that man's name was Yi Seong-gye, but after he became king he was known as King Taejo... (It's not limited to Asia, either, or this time period, as of course Albert Edward Saxe-Coburg-Gotha just became King Edward VII in 1901!)

Freshplayer · Jun 10, 2025

I think it's great to make a difference in Jianzhou, Haisi, & Yeren as a government reform, with the idea of confederation. Can you offer more details about the confederation? For example, could they transfer their leadership to the strongest? Or could they eventually become one country through confederation reforms? Furthermore, I did not find any information about the Yeren or Udihe.

(Udihe in Jurchen Script, from Dictionary of Jurchen Script, by Jin Qicong)

Will there be any modifications to the locations of these Jurchen clans? I just made a post on this issue. I also have a long list of placenames, collected from various sources. There are numerous issues, including a lack of well-known resources like pearls and gold, Jurchen countries not in the right locations, adopting inconsistent orthography, and misnomers in multiple places. Since I am about to take a flight, I couldn't spend too much time on it.

Freshplayer said:
Proposed Change in Regional Names:

Lower Amur -> Mangbo

Amgun -> Hÿng (Nivkh) / Henggun (Manchu)

Tunguska -> Kur

Middle Amur -> Sahaliyan Ula

Humar -> Kumar (consistent with place name)

Amur -> Dauria

Argun -> Ürgene (Mongolian: ᠡᠷᠭᠦᠨ᠎ᠡ)/ Ergune (Manchu: ᡝᡵᡤᡠᠨᡝ)

Songnen -> Non (Manchu: ᠨᠣᠨ) / Nun (Mongolian: ᠨᠤᠨ)

Nuomin -> Nemin (ᠨᡝᠮᡳᠨ)

Taoer -> Toor (ᠲᠣᠣᠷ; тор)

Songhua -> Sunggari (ᠰᡠᠩᡤᠠᡵᡳ)

Tangwang -> Ton (ᡨᠣᠨ) or Tawūn

Mudan -> Hūrga (Mudan was a late 19th-century name; ᡥᡡᡵᡥᠠ hūrha; ᡥᡡᡵᡤᠠ hūrga)

Upper Songhua -> Golmin Šanyan (Alin)

Lower Songhua -> Girin (Ula)

Lalin (ᠯᠠᠯᡳᠨ) -> Alcuka or Ancun (capital of the Jin Dynasty; Lalin was built as a supply center for Alcuka)

Hulan -> Hūlan = Hvlan (ᡥᡡᠯᠠᠨ)

Ussuri -> Hingka (Khanka Lowland)

Greater Ussuri -> Niman (ᠨᡳᠮᠠᠨ; revert 1972 name change)

Small Ussuri -> Hingka (Upper Ussuri named Daubihe in Chinese = Huye in Manchu)

Muling -> Muren (Chinese -> Manchu)

Liaodong

Liaoyang -> Liáoshěn (Liaoyang + Shenyang)

Dingliao -> Yalu or Foson

Explanations:

Mangbo: Mangbo refers to the lower section of the Heilongjiang (Amur) River downstream from the Songhua River confluence. The name originates from the Nanai dialects, where "Mangbo" simply means "river." In Nanai, the Amur River below the Songhua confluence is called Daai Mangbo ("the great river"), or simply Mangbo. In Hezhen dialects spoken in China, variants include Mangme, Manggu, Mangbu, and Mamgu; in Uilta (Ulchi), the form Manggu is used. Japanese sources such as Tōtatsu Kikō (東韃紀行) referred to the Amur as Mankon-kō (满珲江), likely derived from this root.

Hÿng: The word Ӿыӈг is a geographic name, likely of Tungusic origin. A more widely circulated variant is ӽыӈгр or ӿыӈгыр, as seen in sources like Wikipedia. However, this form is actually a compound: ӿыӈг (Khengün) + ыр (mouth/opening), meaning “mouth of the Khengün River” or “Khengün River mouth.”

Kur: There was no river named Tunguska River, but lower Kur before Russian annexation. The name Tunguska is a Russian exonym derived from the word Tungus, an old Russian term for the Evenki people. It's not the native name used by the local people for the rivers or regions called “Tunguska.”

Suggested Formable Countries:

Jurchenic -> Jin (Haisi: Anchun/ Jianzhou: Aisin; not "Later Jin")

Haisi -> Hūlan

Nanai -> Hūrha (zh) -> Jianzhou (event)

Udihe -> Weji (zh)

Jurchen -> Dongxia

Evenk (Oroqen) / Daur -> Solon

Daur -> Sahalca/Dauria -> Khitan (event)

Final Table of Placenames:

Old Province New Province Old Location New Location Culture Country Old Resource New Resource Change in Country Change in Province Change in Location Chang in RGO Province (Chinese) Location (Chinese)
Southern Sakhalin Southern Sakhalin Boluohe Poro Nay Ainu Poronay Sturdy Grains Wild Game TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 南苦夷波罗河
Southern Sakhalin Southern Sakhalin Guohuo Toichasi Ainu Poronay Fish Fish TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 南苦夷果夥
Southern Sakhalin Southern Sakhalin Kushunkotan Kushun Kotan Ainu Poronay Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 南苦夷久春古丹
Southern Sakhalin Southern Sakhalin Nayoro Nayoro Ainu Poronay Fur Fur TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 南苦夷名好
Southern Sakhalin Southern Sakhalin Nayoro Etutoro Ainu Poronay Fur Fur TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 南苦夷恵須取
Amur Yaksa Amazar Amazar Daur Merihe Gold Gold TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 雅克萨阿马扎尔
Amur Kumār Emuer Emur Daur Merihe Sturdy_grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 库玛尔额木尔河
Amur Kumār Mohe Merihe Daur Merihe Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 库玛尔漠河
Amur Yaksa Ollo Ollo Daur Bahulu Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 雅克萨俄勒
Amur Yaksa Urka Urka Daur Merihe Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 雅克萨额哩河
Amur Yaksa Yakesa Yaksa Daur Bahulu Fish Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 雅克萨雅克萨
Gilyuy Gilyuy Bryante Bryante Daur Gilyuy Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 吉鲁布连塔
Gilyuy Gilyuy Gilyuy Gilyuy Daur Gilyuy Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 吉鲁吉鲁
Gilyuy Gilyuy Mogot Mogot Daur Gilyuy Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 吉鲁莫郭特河
Gilyuy Gilyuy Tukuringra Tukuringra Daur Gilyuy Fur Fur TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 吉鲁投库尔鄂拉
Gilyuy Gilyuy Tynda Tynda Daur Gilyuy Fur Fur TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 吉鲁提克德
Gilyuy Gilyuy Urkan Urkan Daur Gilyuy Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 吉鲁乌尔
Hailar Hailar Xuguit Yakxi Daur Yuán Livestock Livestock FALSE FALSE TRUE FALSE 海拉尔牙克石
Humar Kumār Sahar Ilhūri Daur Taha Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 库玛尔伊勒呼里
Humar Kumār Tahe Taha Daur Taha Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 库玛尔塔河
Lower Bureya Sahaliyan Ula Aigun Kon Daur Sibaguci Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 黑龙江城坤别拉
Lower Bureya Sahaliyan Ula Aigun Fahala Daur Sibaguci Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 黑龙江城法别拉
Lower Zeya Jinkr Tehcha Aigun Daur Sibaguci Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 精奇里瑷珲
Nuomin Nemin Arun Arun Daur Arun Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 讷敏阿荣
Nuomin Huyur Qiqihar Cicigar Daur Fuyu Fur Legumes TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 蒲与路齐齐哈尔
Upper Non Mergen Kuile Güil Daur Arun Livestock Livestock TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 墨尔根奎勒
Upper Non Mergen Menlu Melur Daur Mergen Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 墨尔根门鹿
Upper Non Mergen Mergen Mergen Daur Mergen Wild Game Gold TRUE TRUE FALSE TRUE 墨尔根墨尔根
Amur Estuary Tugur Torom Toron Evenk Tugur Sand Sand TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 黑龙江口托伦
Chol Chol Chol Tarqi Evenk Yuan Lumber Wool TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 绰尔塔尔气
Humar Yaksa Bir Birayan Evenk Buludan Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 雅克萨必拉彦
Humar Kumār Humar Kumār Evenk Taha Wild Game Gold TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 库玛尔库玛尔
Humar Kumār Pangu Panggū Evenk Boromda Gold Gold TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 库玛尔盘古
Lower Argun Lower Ürgene Enhe Hada Elhe Hada Evenk Merihe Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 上额尔古纳恩和哈达
Lower Argun Lower Ürgene Jiliu Niyor Evenk Merihe Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 上额尔古纳牛尔
Lower Bureya Jinkr Arkhanra Hara Evenk Tuluting Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 精奇里哈拉
Lower Bureya Sūn Chenqing Jaan Evenk Jaan Lumber Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 伊春沾河
Lower Bureya Sūn Jajin Jayin Evenk Jiayin Fish Gold TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 伊春嘉荫
Lower Bureya Lower Nioman Nioman Nioman Evenk Sibaguci Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 下牛满牛满
Lower Bureya Sahaliyan Ula Xunhe Hormoljin Evenk Jaan Amber Gold TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 黑龙江城霍尔莫津
Lower Bureya Sūn Zhanhe Sūn Evenk Jaan Horses Pearls TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 伊春逊河
Lower Zeya Jinkr Birma Birma Evenk Tom' Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 精奇里巴里木
Lower Zeya Jinkr Gromatukha Gromatukha Evenk Ala Fur Fur TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 精奇里格罗慕奇
Lower Zeya Jinkr Tom' Tom' Evenk Tom' Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 精奇里托莫
Lower Zeya Lower Nioman Tygde Tygde Evenk Halacha Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 下牛满提克德
Lower Zeya Jinkr Yor Yor Evenk Ala Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 精奇里约尔
Nuomin Nemin Bila Nomin Evenk Arun Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 讷敏讷敏
Nuomin Nemin Nuomin Tocamin Evenk Arun Fur Wild Game TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 讷敏托扎敏
Selemdhzha Selemdhzha Burunda Burunda Evenk Tom' Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 西林穆迪那拉
Selemdhzha Selemdhzha Buse Buse Evenk Tom' Wild Game Wild Game TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 西林穆迪贝萨
Selemdhzha Selemdhzha Kogan Kharga Evenk Tom' Fur Fur TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 西林穆迪哈尔固
Selemdhzha Selemdhzha Mamyn Mamyn Evenk Tom' Iron Iron TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 西林穆迪穆敏
Selemdhzha Selemdhzha Selemde Selemde Evenk Tom' Iron Iron TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 西林穆迪西林穆迪
Selemdhzha Selemdhzha Ulma Ormolko Evenk Tom' Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 西林穆迪鄂尔谟尔科
Upper Bureya Upper Nioman Akishma Akishma Evenk Tuluting Stone Stone TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 上牛满阿奇什玛
Upper Bureya Upper Nioman Olongki Jolonki Evenk Tuluting Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 上牛满鄂朗奇
Upper Bureya Lower Nioman Tujun Tujun Evenk Tuluting Livestock Livestock TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 上牛满阿图音
Upper Bureya Lower Nioman Tyrma Sairam Evenk Tuluting Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 上牛满赛拉木
Upper Bureya Upper Nioman Urgal Urgal Evenk Tuluting Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 上牛满乌尔罕
Upper Non Mergen Dobkuri Dobukūr Evenk Mergen Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 墨尔根多布库尔
Upper Non Mergen Gan Gaan Evenk Mergen Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 墨尔根甘河
Upper Non Mergen Non Gūli Evenk Mergen Livestock Livestock TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 墨尔根古里
Upper Zeya Zeya Argi Argi Evenk Ala Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 结雅阿尔即
Upper Zeya Zeya Dep Dep Evenk Ala Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 结雅杰普
Upper Zeya Zeya Djee Djee Evenk Ala Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 结雅结雅
Upper Zeya Zeya Kupuri Kupuri Evenk Ala Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 结雅库普里
Upper Zeya Zeya Mulmuga Mulmuga Evenk Ala Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 结雅们梅哈
Upper Zeya Zeya Tok Tok Evenk Ala Fur Fur TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 结雅托克
Chol Chol Buteha Yaal Evenk Yuan Wild Game Wild Game TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 绰尔雅鲁
Bolon Bolon Boli Beri/Bohori Hūrga Hijan Sturdy_grains Sturdy Grains TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 诺罗伯力
Greater Ussuri Niman Alchan Bisin Hūrga Ussuri Fur Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 尼满毕歆
Greater Ussuri Niman Imanka Kolumbe Hūrga Imanka Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 尼满窟窿别
Greater Ussuri Niman Katen Horo Hūrga Horo Wild Game Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 尼满和罗
Greater Ussuri Niman Vaka Niman Hūrga Imanka Lumber Livestock TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 尼满尼满
Hulan Hūlan Bayan Susu Bayan Hūrga Bayan Medicaments Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 扈伦卜颜
Humar Sahaliyan Ula Kuanhe Gun Evenk Sibaguci Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 黑龙江城宽河
Mudan Hūrga Hailang Gioro Hūrga Fulun Wheat Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 胡里改宁古塔
Mudan Ilan Hala Ilan Hala Kalun Hūrga Hūrga Livestock Wild Game TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 三姓卡伦
Mudan Hūrga Mudan Ula Niyehe Hūrga Hūrga Horses Horses TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 胡里改乜河
Mudan Hūrga Ningguta Hūrhan Hūrga Asu Rice Iron TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 胡里改忽汗
Mudan Hūrga Ningguta Gioro Hūrga Asu Rice Rice TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 胡里改觉罗
Mudan Hūrga Odoli Akedun Hūrga Dala Soybeans Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 胡里改阿克敦
Muling Muren Jixi Gihi Hūrga Muren Medicaments Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 毛怜鸡西
Muling Muren Mulun Muren Hūrga Muren Wild Game Horses TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 毛怜毛怜
Sānjiāng Ilan Hala Futi Wanlin Hūrga Wanlin Wheat Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 三姓万里
Sānjiāng Noro Lahasusu Laha Susu Hūrga Kemu Wheat Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 诺罗拉哈苏苏
Sānjiāng Noro Nuoluo Noro Hūrga Noro Livestock Livestock TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 诺罗诺罗
Sānjiāng Ton Tulguur Aulemi Hūrga Hūrga Wild Game Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 桃温奥里米
Small Ussuri Hingka Anchun Ilu Hūrga Ilu Wheat Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 兴凯亦鲁
Small Ussuri Muren Hulin Kifūrin Hūrga Shilimian Soybean Soybean TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 毛怜七虎林
Small Ussuri Hingka Yiman Sungacha Hūrga Shilimain Soybean Soybean TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 兴凯松阿察
Small Ussuri Hingka Yiman Akūli Hūrga Shilimian Fiber_crops Fiber Crops TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 兴凯阿库里
Tangwang Hūrga Ilan Hala Hūrga Hūrga Hūrga Legumes Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 胡里改胡里改
Tangwang Ton Wanhufu Ton Hūrga Ton Lumber Legumes TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 桃温桃温
Tangwang Ilan Hala Wehe Weken Hūrga Weken Legumes Stone TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 三姓倭肯
Sānjiāng Noro Shuangyashan Bocin Hūrga Noro Wheat Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 诺罗宝清
Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Fùzhōu Fùzhōu Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Livestock Clay FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 盖州复州
Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Fùzhōu Délìsì Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Livestock Sturdy Grains FALSE FALSE TRUE TRUE 盖州得利寺
Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Xióngyuèchéng Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Fish Livestock FALSE FALSE TRUE TRUE 盖州熊岳城
Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Fish Salt FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 盖州盖州
Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Jīnzhōu Jīnzhōu Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Livestock Fish FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 盖州金州
Gàizhōu Gàizhōu Zhuānghé Huánggǔdǎo Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Fruit Horses FALSE FALSE TRUE TRUE 盖州黄骨岛
Jǐnzhōu Liáoyáng Hǎizhōu Hǎizhōu Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Wheat Fruit FALSE TRUE FALSE TRUE 辽阳海州
Jǐnzhōu Liáoyáng Hǎizhōu Niúzhuāng Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Wheat Livestock FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 辽阳牛庄
Liáoyáng Fènghuáng Shěnyáng Liánshānguān Jiāoliáo Shěnyáng Soybeans Stone FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 凤凰连山关
Chol Chol Hurle Chol Mongolian Yuan Fiber Crops Horses TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 绰尔绰尔
Dìngliáo Fènghuáng Dandong Jiǔliánchéng Jurchen Shěnyáng Marble Wheat FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 凤凰九连城
Dìngliáo Fènghuáng Dingliao Fènghuángchéng Jurchen Shěnyáng Lumber Lumber FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 凤凰凤凰城
Dìngliáo Foson Donggo Wandu Jurchen Shěnyáng Medicaments Iron FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 婆速丸都
Dìngliáo Foson Donggo Donggo Jurchen Shěnyáng Spice Livestock FALSE TRUE FALSE TRUE 婆速董鄂
Dìngliáo Foson Kuandian Pushi Jurchen Shěnyáng Lumber Lead FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 婆速蒲石
Dìngliáo Golmin Šanyan Linjiang Yalu Jurchen Shěnyáng Marble Iron FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 长白鸭渌
Dìngliáo Foson Wanggika Foson Jurchen Shěnyáng Spice Livestock FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 婆速婆猪
Dìngliáo Foson Wanggika Fulu Jurchen Shěnyáng Spice Rice FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 婆速沸流
Gàizhōu Fènghuáng Xiùyán Xiùyán Jurchen Shěnyáng Gems Gems FALSE TRUE FALSE FALSE 凤凰绣岩
Hulan Hūlan Hailun Hailun Haisi Weji Fur Fur TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 扈伦海伦
Hulan Hūlan Hulan Hūlan Haisi Tashan Wheat Wheat TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 扈伦呼兰
Hulan Hūlan Hvlan Tieli Haisi Ejimi Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 扈伦铁骊
Hulan Hūlan Ougen Suilengge Haisi Nalaji Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 扈伦绥楞额
Lalin Zhaozhou Boduna Boduna Haisi Sancaha Sturdy Grains Wheat TRUE TRUE FALSE TRUE 肇州伯都讷
Lalin Alcuka Boduna Tahu Jurchen Sancaha Sturdy Grains Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 阿城塔虎
Lalin Alcuka Hulawen Alejin Jurchen Lalu Wheat Wheat TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 阿城阿勒锦
Lalin Alcuka Shangjing Alcuka Jurchen Lalin Wheat Livestock TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 阿城阿城
Lalin Alcuka Shulan Šuran Jurchen Lalin Lumber Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 阿城舒兰
Lalin Alcuka Yushu Lalin Jurchen Lalin Fiber Crops Legumes TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 阿城拉林
Liáoyáng Kāiyuán Heto Ala Hetu Ala Jurchen Shěnyáng Horses Horses FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 开原赫图阿拉
Liáoyáng Kāiyuán Jabiyan Hecemu Jurchen Shěnyáng Legumes Livestock FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 开原黑扯木
Liáoyáng Fènghuáng Qinhe Qīnghé Jurchen Shěnyáng Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 凤凰清河
Lower Non Huyur Dalaiketun Huyur Haisi Fuyu Wheat Legumes TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 蒲与路蒲峪路
Lower Non Huyur Nemeri Uyun Holdonggi Haisi Nemer Lumber Livestock TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 蒲与路乌云和尔冬吉
Middle Songhua Girin Ula Girin Ula Girin Jurchen Wuyewu Cotton Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 吉林吉林
Middle Songhua Girin Ula Itu Itun Jurchen Itun Wheat Wheat TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 吉林伊通
Middle Songhua Girin Ula Itu Hersu Jurchen Yimahu Wheat Wheat TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 吉林赫尔苏
Mudan Alcuka Malong Mahiyan Jurchen Mahiyan Sturdy Grains Horses TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 阿城木兴
Muling Suifun Dongning Sancara Angara Jurchen Suifun Soybean Medicaments TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 速频三岔口
Muling Suifun Juru Hoton Juru Hoton Jurchen Juru Hoton Fiber_crops Horses TRUE TRUE FALSE TRUE 速频双城
Muling Muren Juru Hoton Lefu Jurchen Lefu Wheat Wheat TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 毛怜勒富
Sānjiāng Ilan Hala Futi Fukjin Jurchen Futi Wheat Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 三姓弗提
Suifun Yaran Anju Hūlhin Jurchen Yaran Sand Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 牙鲁外富锦
Suifun Suifun Kaiyuan Suifun Jurchen Suifun Fur Horses TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 速频速频
Suifun Yoose Nogule Yoose Jurchen Yoose Fish Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 鱼失鱼失
Suifun Yaran Nogule Nogule Jurchen Yoose Fish Pearls TRUE TRUE FALSE TRUE 牙鲁珠其
Suifun Yaran Shili Sirin Jurchen Sirin Fish Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 牙鲁失里
Suifun Yaran Sirin Yaran Jurchen Yaran Fish Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 牙鲁雅兰
Suifun Suifun Suifun Jianzhou Jurchen Suifun Fur Medicaments TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 速频建州
Suifun Suifun Yongmingcheng Muhiya Jurchen Muhiya Fish Fish TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 速频木阳河
Tumen Tumen Helong Xianzhou Jurchen Halan Lumber Fiber Crops TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 土门显州
Tumen Tumen Huncun Huncun Jurchen Huncun Lumber Soybean TRUE FALSE FALSE TRUE 土门珲春
Tumen Tumen Kahari Gahari Jurchen Abdari Lumber Medicaments TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 土门噶哈里
Tumen Tumen Longjing Shanlu Jurchen Halan Fur Rice TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 土门杉卢
Tumen Tumen Tulazi Yancun Jurchen Shilin Fish Salt TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 土门盐州
Tumen Tumen Yenji Aidan Jurchen Aidan Lumber Soybeans TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 土门艾丹
Upper Bureya Upper Nioman Upper Nioman Nioman Sekiyen Jurchen Tuluting Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 上牛满牛满色禽
Upper Songhua Golmin Šanyan Golmin Salggiyan Neyen Jurchen Neyen Medicaments Medicaments TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 长白讷殷
Upper Songhua Hoifa Hoifa Fāngzhōu Jurchen Huiba Lumber Rice TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 辉发坊州
Upper Songhua Hoifa Hoifa Nadan Fere Jurchen Huiba Lumber Rice TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 辉发那丹府
Upper Songhua Hoifa Huifacheng Hoifa Jurchen Huiba Wild Game Gold TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 辉发辉发
Upper Songhua Golmin Šanyan Juxeri Jušeri Jurchen Jušeri Lumber Medicaments TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 长白朱舍里
Upper Songhua Hoifa Lefu Todo Jurchen Todo Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 辉发秃都
Upper Songhua Golmin Šanyan Sunggari Hotonggi Jurchen Hotonggi Fur Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 长白禾屯吉
Yìzhōu Kāiyuán Kāiyuán Hada Jurchen Shěnyáng Horses Horses FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 开原哈达
Yìzhōu Kāiyuán Kāiyuán Yehe Jurchen Shěnyáng Horses Horses FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 开原叶赫
Hulan Hūlan Bayan Susu Mulun Hūrga Mulun Medicaments Wild Game TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 扈伦木伦
Lower Non Huyur Yilaha Nemer Jurchen Michen Wheat Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 蒲与路讷漠尔
Guǎngníng Shěnyáng Kāichéng Jùliúhé Korean Shěnyáng Cotton Sturdy Grains FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 沈阳巨流河
Liáoyáng Liáoyáng Liáoyáng Liáoyáng Korean Shěnyáng Soybeans Soybeans FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE 辽阳辽阳
Liáoyáng Liáoyáng Liáoyáng Ānshān Korean Shěnyáng Soybeans Iron FALSE FALSE TRUE TRUE 辽阳鞍山
Liáoyáng Shěnyáng Shěnyáng Yìlù Korean Shěnyáng Rice Sturdy Grains FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 沈阳懿路
Liáoyáng Shěnyáng Shěnyáng Shěnyáng Korean Shěnyáng Rice Sturdy Grains FALSE TRUE FALSE TRUE 沈阳沈阳
Liáoyáng Shěnyáng Shěnyáng Xiǎndú Korean Shěnyáng Rice Fish FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 沈阳险渎
Buir Nuur Buir Nuur Barun Xiaba'er Mandubulag Mongolian Yuan Wild Game Livestock TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 捕鱼儿海满都宝力格
Buir Nuur Buir Nuur Buir Nuur Buir Nuur Mongolian Yuan Horses Fish TRUE FALSE FALSE TRUE 捕鱼儿海捕鱼儿海
Buir Nuur Buir Nuur Khalkh Khalkh Mongolian Yuan Livestock Livestock TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 捕鱼儿海喀尔喀
Buir Nuur Buir Nuur Tamsabulag Tamsabulag Mongolian Yuan Livestock Livestock TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 捕鱼儿海塔木萨格布拉格
Chol Chol Taizhou Doyan Mongolian Yuan Horses Horses TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 绰尔朵颜
Guǎngníng Yìzhōu Fùxīn Siratalayingol Mongolian Yuán Amber Gems FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 懿州细河
Hailar Hailar Bayan Ula Bayinuul Mongolian Yuan Wool Wools TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 海拉尔巴彦乌拉
Hailar Hailar Hailar Huder Mongolian Yuan Livestock Wild Game TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 海拉尔库都尔
Hailar Hailar Hulun Hailar Mongolian Yuan Sturdy_grains Horses TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 海拉尔海拉尔
Hailar Hailar Yimin Imingol Mongolian Yuan Wild Game Wools TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 海拉尔伊敏
Lalin Zhaozhou Zhaozhou Zhaozhou Mongolian Zhaozhou Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 肇州肇州
Lower Non Zhaozhou Sart Saratu Mongolian Doyan Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 肇州萨尔图
Lower Non Zhaozhou Talaha Bayanchagan Mongolian Doyan Sand Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 肇州巴彦查干
Lower Ürgene Lower Ürgene Merelka Mordaga Mongolian Yuán Lumber Lumber FALSE FALSE TRUE FALSE 上额尔古纳莫尔道嘎
Middle Songhua Girin Ula Changchun Ujukhot Mongolian Itun Legumes Legumes TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 吉林乌浩特
Nuomin Nemin Laha Laha Mongolian Fuyu Fish Fish TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 讷敏拉哈
Tao'er Toor Chaghankher Chángchūn Mongolian Yuán Sturdy_grains Sturdy Grains FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 挞鲁长春
Tao'er Toor Gorlos Hara Usu Mongolian Yuán Livestock Livestock FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 挞鲁哈拉乌苏
Tao'er Toor Huolin Holingol Mongolian Yuán Fish Fish FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 挞鲁霍林
Tao'er Toor Tuliemao Tulegmodo Mongolian Yuán Wild Game Wild Game FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 挞鲁吐列毛杜
Tao'er Toor Wafang Budugünbulag Mongolian Yuán Livestock Livestock FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 挞鲁突泉
Upper Argun Upper Ürgene Abagaita Hegjuunbulag Mongolian Yuán Legume Legume FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 下额尔古纳霍勒津布拉格
Upper Argun Upper Ürgene Gegen Gegen Mongolian Yuán Lumber Lumber FALSE TRUE FALSE FALSE 下额尔古纳根河
Upper Argun Upper Ürgene Hasar Hasar Mongolian Yuán Wild Game Wild Game FALSE TRUE FALSE FALSE 下额尔古纳哈撒儿城
Xiliao Siramuren Haiha'er Haihar Mongolian Yuán Livestock Livestock FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 潢水海哈尔
Xiliao Siramuren Kailu Huatugal Mongolian Yuán Horses Horses FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 潢水花吐古拉
Xiliao Siramuren Linhuang Linhuang Mongolian Yuán Sturdy Grains Sturdy Grains FALSE TRUE FALSE FALSE 潢水临潢
Xiliao Siramuren Qingzhou Qingzhou Mongolian Yuán Sturdy Grains Wools FALSE TRUE FALSE TRUE 潢水庆州
Xiliao Siramuren Xinkai Gurbantolgod Mongolian Yuán Wool Wool FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 潢水三山
Xiliao Siramuren Zhengjiatun Bayantal Mongolian Yuán Rice Horses FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 潢水巴彦塔拉
Yìzhōu Yìzhōu Níngchāng Níngchāng Mongolian Yuán Livestock Livestock FALSE FALSE FALSE FALSE 懿州宁昌
Yìzhōu Yìzhōu Tōngliáo Jirem Mongolian Yuán Wheat Livestock FALSE FALSE TRUE TRUE 懿州哲里木
Amgun Amgun Amgun Amgun Negidal Im Fur Fur TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 兴衮兴衮
Amgun Amgun Dukin Dukin Negidal Kerbi Fiber_crops Fiber Crops TRUE FALSE FALSE TRUE 兴衮都噶津
Amgun Amgun Dzhuk Mang'acan Negidal Manggacan Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 兴衮满泾
Amgun Amgun Imilen Imilen Negidal Imilen Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 兴衮额密勒
Amgun Amgun Kerbi Kerbi Negidal Kerbi Clay Fish TRUE FALSE FALSE TRUE 兴衮格尔毕
Gorin Gorin Evur Dosomi Negidal Kerbi Fiber_crops Fiber_crops TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 葛林多索密
Amur Estuary Amur Estuary Nurgan Nurgan Nivkh Yuan Fish Wild Game TRUE FALSE FALSE TRUE 黑龙江口奴儿干
Amur Estuary Amur Estuary Nurgan Miyoo Nivkh Yuan Fish Gold TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 黑龙江口庙街
Amur Estuary Tugur Shantar Shantar Nivkh Tugur Fish Fish TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 黑龙江口尚塔尔
Amur Estuary Tugur Tugur Tugur Nivkh Tugur Fish Fish TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 黑龙江口督罕
Amur Estuary Tugur Usalgin Guwele Nivkh Tugur Fish Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 黑龙江口郭勒
Northern Sakhalin Northern Sakhalin Idui Idui Nivkh Langry Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 北苦夷衣堆
Northern Sakhalin Northern Sakhalin Idui Pila‘vo Nivkh Poronay Lumber Fish TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 北苦夷蒲隆
Northern Sakhalin Northern Sakhalin Nangha'er Langry Nivkh Langry Fur Fur TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 北苦夷囊哈尔
Northern Sakhalin Northern Sakhalin Porokotan Tymy Nivkh Poronay Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 北苦夷达溪
Northern Sakhalin Northern Sakhalin Wulihe Noglvo Nivkh Noglvo Fur Fur TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 北苦夷兀烈河
Sānjiāng Noro Lahasusu Ilga Hūrga Gilemi Wheat Sturdy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 诺罗伊力嘎
Tumin Kiji Deren Jari Nivkh Jari Fish Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 奇集扎里
Tumin Kiji Deren Kiji Nivkh Kiji Fish Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 奇集奇集
Amur Estuary Kiji Bulava Bulava Oroch Bulawa Fish Fish TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 奇集卜鲁兀
Tumin Yoose Datta Datta Oroch Kemer Fish Fish TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 鱼失达塔
Tumin Amur Estuary Deren Kemer Oroch Kemer Fish Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 黑龙江口克默尔
Tumin Yoose Koppi Koppi Oroch Kemer Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 鱼失都尔
Tumin Amur Estuary Tumzhdin Tumjin Oroch Kemer Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 黑龙江口托穆津
Lower Non Zhaozhou Zhalong Suwayan Sibe Suwan Medicaments Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 肇州苏温
Tao'er Toor Taluhe Solon Sibe Mutali Wool Wool TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 挞鲁索伦
Small Ussuri Hingka Anchun Huye Udihe Huye Wheat Wheat TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 兴凯兀也
Small Ussuri Yaran Namunka Faltu Udihe Faltu Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 牙鲁勿儿秃
Tangwang Ton Chalin Sarin Udihe Sarin Fish Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 桃温撒力
Tangwang Sūn Taowen Icun Udihe Tunhe Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 伊春伊春
Tangwang Ton Wanhufu Jarin Udihe Tawūn Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 桃温扎琳
Bolon Bolon Xungake Xungake Udihe Udihe Fur Wild Game TRUE FALSE FALSE TRUE 诺罗庄霭
Greater Ussuri Niman Bikinka Olon Udihe Bikinka Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 尼满鄂伦
Greater Ussuri Niman Xunka Sukpai Udihe Xunka Stone Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 尼满苏克派
Muling Muren Mishan Hibsu Udihe Muren Clay Medicaments TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 毛怜密山
Sānjiāng Ton Tulguur Utun Udihe Utun Wild Game Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 桃温五屯
Tumin Yoose Kema Kema Udihe Ele Stone Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE TRUE 鱼失克马
Tumin Yoose Samarginka Samarga Udihe Ele Fur Fish TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 鱼失斡兰
Tunguska Kur Bidzhan Bijan Udihe Muluhan Fur Fur TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 古鲁毕占
Tunguska Kur Bira Kimni Udihe Kur Wheat Strudy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 古鲁奇穆尼
Tunguska Kur Kukan Kukan Udihe Muluhan Fur Fur TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 古鲁库坎
Tunguska Kur Kur Kur Udihe Kur Sturdy_grains Fish TRUE TRUE FALSE TRUE 古鲁古鲁
Tunguska Kur Sutara Sutar Udihe Muluhan Fur Gold TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 古鲁苏塔尔
Tunguska Kur Urmi Urmi Udihe Kur Wild Game Wild Game TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 古鲁乌尔米
Small Ussuri Hingka Noto Nentu Uidhe Faltu Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 兴凯能图
Bolon Bolon Achan Ujala Ulch Ujala Sturdy_grains Fish TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 诺罗乌扎拉
Bolon Bolon Nemptu Irkulu Ulch Irkulu Fur Fur TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 诺罗亦儿古里
Bolon Bolon Simmi Gehen Ulch Gehen Sturdy_grains Sturdy Grains TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 诺罗格根
Bolon Bolon Uninka Dondon Ulch Harfen Lumber Fish TRUE FALSE TRUE TRUE 诺罗敦敦
Gorin Kiji Bitki Bitki Ulch Udyl Strudy Grains Strudy Grains TRUE TRUE FALSE FALSE 奇集毕津
Gorin Gorin Kedar Kedar Ulch Gorin Tin Tin TRUE FALSE FALSE FALSE 葛林孔东
Gorin Kiji Pilda Kalar Ulch Udyl Strudy Grains Strudy Grains TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 奇集喀拉尔
Gorin Kiji Uschu Aji Ulch Aji Lumber Lumber TRUE TRUE TRUE FALSE 奇集阿者
Gorin Gorin Uschu Fisen Ulch Fisen Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 葛林菲生
Gorin Gorin Uschu Iowetke Ulch Iowetke Lumber Lumber TRUE FALSE TRUE FALSE 葛林由倭特克
Guǎngníng Guǎngníng Guǎngníng Guǎngníng Yan Shěnyáng Legumes Sturdy Grains FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 广宁广宁
Guǎngníng Guǎngníng Wàngpíng Wàngpíng Yan Shěnyáng Sturdy Grains Livestock FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 广宁望平
Guǎngníng Guǎngníng Yìzhōu Yānjùnchéng Yan Shěnyáng Livestock Livestock FALSE FALSE TRUE FALSE 广宁燕郡城
Jǐnzhōu Guǎngníng Dàlínghé Pánshān Yan Shěnyáng Rice Livestock FALSE TRUE TRUE TRUE 广宁盘山
Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Dàlínghé Dàlínghé Yan Shěnyáng Rice Livestock FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 锦州大凌河
Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Tǎshān Yan Shěnyáng Rice Sturdy Grains FALSE FALSE TRUE TRUE 锦州塔山
Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Yan Shěnyáng Rice Mercury FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 锦州锦州
Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Níngyuǎn Níngyuǎn Yan Shěnyáng Wheat Sturdy Grains FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 锦州宁远
Jǐnzhōu Jǐnzhōu Qiántún Ruìzhōu Yan Shěnyáng Fish Sturdy Grains FALSE FALSE TRUE TRUE 锦州瑞州
Liáoyáng Shěnyáng Fǔshùn Fǔshùn Yan Shěnyáng Coals Amber FALSE TRUE FALSE TRUE 沈阳抚顺
Middle Songhua Girin Ula Nong'an Lóng'ān Yan Elmin Fiber Crops Wild Game TRUE TRUE TRUE TRUE 吉林隆安
Yìzhōu Kāiyuán Kāiyuán Kāiyuán Yan Shěnyáng Horses Soybeans FALSE TRUE FALSE TRUE 开原开原
Yìzhōu Kāiyuán Tiělǐng Yínzhōu Yan Shěnyáng Silver Silver FALSE TRUE TRUE FALSE 开原银州
Yìzhōu Yìzhōu Yehe Hánzhōu Yan Yuán Legumes Legumes FALSE FALSE TRUE FALSE 懿州布尔图库
Yìzhōu Yìzhōu Yìzhōu Yìzhōu Yan Yuán Legumes Sturdy Grains FALSE FALSE FALSE TRUE 懿州懿州

Note 1: Adjust resources mainly based on Manshū Keizai Chizu (Japanese: 滿洲經濟地圖; lit. Manchukuo Economic Map; published in 1938).
Note 2: Placenames compiled from multiple sources, including Nouvel Atlas de la Chine (French/Manchu, 1737), Qing Maps (Chinese, 1721, 1728, 1766), Map of Jilin Rivers (Manchu/Chinese/Russian, 1711), Complete Genealogies of Manchu Surnames (Manchu/Chinese, 1744), Historical Atlas of China (Chinese; Translation; Annotations; 1982; Unreliable map with reliable annotations), Dictionary of Far East Placenames (Russian, 1975; Unreliable, Chinese corretions), Dictionary of Jurchen Script (Chinese, 1984), Old Placenames of Primorsky Krai/Khabarovsk Krai), Dorontu Manchu Dictionary, Hkuri Manchu/Mongolian/Chinese/Japanese Dictionaries, Manchu Ulabuns (Umesiben/Hulun/Weji), STELE - China Heritage Map, etc.
Note 3: Loosely conformed to the spelling of Norman (2013) in the Wikipedia article, Transliteration of Manchu: ū=uu=v; š=sh; c=ch; j=zh; k'=kk; g'=gg; h'=hh; ts=ts'=c; dz=z; ž=z; cy=c'y=chy; jy=zhy; (Mongolian) gh=ɣ. P.S., general names in Manchu for geographical entities: Ula/Bira=River; Alin=Mountain; Hada = Peak; Hoton = City; Gašan/Boo=Village; Wai=Bay; Bilten=Lake.

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Freshplayer said:
The easiest part - Around Shenyang. There were three clans of the Changbai Mountains
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Yehe: then Yehui Clan, not in the right place, later taken by Nara.

Hoifa: then the Huiba Clan, okay with the current location, later taken over by Nara.

Juxeri -> Jušeri: part of Changbaishan Jurchen, wrong location, but the orthography is peculiar, unknown family.

Neyen: part of Changbaishan Jurchen, occupied part of the Jušeri location.

Yalu: The current location is along the Tumen River, not Yalu, as shown above.

Jušeri, Neyen, and Yalu may fill the blank on the other side of the Changbai Mountains, if necessary. For those Jurchen in coastal Korea, you can refer to the post by tinto. I also made some clarification on their family names. Only Halan and Haiyan were Tumens, and others were Mingghan or Moke. I wonder whether we should have two Tumens, or just a few one-location tages

Also, it would be better to have Xiguan in Huncun as a Tumen, which would control the Warka region (now SoP). The family name was said to be Chinese Zhu, the same as the Ming Dynasty, but we can't know more about their real Jurchen names.

The problem of Yehe's location: Yehe was in that circle within Kaiyuan. Lol. The current flatland of Yehe was not a Jurchen possession in the Qing Dynasty but belonged to the Mongols. Thus, I feel the majority of Yehe was in the mountainous part.
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seats of Jusheri, Neyen, and Yalu.
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I hope we can represent all these Ming-dynasty Weisuo, with text styled in blue on the map, as settled tribes, particularly those along the Amur and the Ussuri, because I felt that the Yuan could hardly really control most of them. As I noted, the Liaoyang Province was just a tool to compete with the influence of other kingdoms in Manchuria. They were stable in the places for centuries, basically named after the river basin in which they were active, while obliged to maintain local transport routes for the Mongols.

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Notably, the Jin Dynasty built two cities in the lower Amur: one was Nurgan, and the other was Ha'erfen (I stylized it as Harfen; the current position of Uninka). Nurgan became the seat of the Zhengdong General for Nivkhs, while Harfen Weji-Gilemi Tumen. From my understanding, the name Gilemi was not particularly associated with the Nivkh, but rather shared the same etymology (lit. lower reach) as Kilen, Kelar, referring to all peoples living in the lower Amur, particularly below Harfen. This Tumen should control the Udege (Weji) people and all the lower Amur.

Sibaguci in Tehcha (Old Aigun) could be a tag for Daurs, as they were the earliest settlers in the Zeya basin. They were city builders and farmers, spanning from Yaksa to Zeya. Hardly to define their northern boundary. As Yaksa was classified into another jurisdiction, I assume that Evenks may have taken over the Daur cities in this area; together, they eventually formed the multi-ethnic Solon. But unknown about their current status.

Hulun was then under Tahai Tumen under an unknown family. Apparently, Nara revolted there and took over the Tumen. Huyur was a Jurchen Tumen from the Jin Dynasty, but it lost most of its population in the beginning. Technically, the land of Solons was part of the territory of Huyur during the Jin Dynasty. (And I feel its history sounds too similar to Sibe) Zhaozhou was a Mongolian Tumen, situated directly opposite the former capital of the Jin Dynasty. It should be designed under the rule of some Mongolian kingdoms, as it controlled the Jurchen heartland and the transportation line between Shuidada, Sibaguci, and Liaoyang.

Roger Corominas · Jun 10, 2025

Aretii said:
If who is in charge in China changes, does the Son in Law rule go away for Korea?

Yes, there will be an event to remove it.

Enku7071 · Jun 10, 2025

Varus90 said:
I'm sure it's been addressed before, but ruler titles (such as those in China, Korea, and Japan) make these events seem a little awkward when addressing the ruler. Yeah, that man's name was Yi Seong-gye, but after he became king he was known as King Taejo... (It's not limited to Asia, either, or this time period, as of course Albert Edward Saxe-Coburg-Gotha just became King Edward VII in 1901!)

I wonder how difficult that feature is going to be here.
Unlike European monarchs who simply used their given names as a regnal name, Asian monarchs in general pick a completely different names to accommodate for auspiciousness and other concerns, which creates a need for a name generator of sorts to function imo.

angang0077 · Jun 10, 2025

Is there an event related to the appearance of King Sejong?

Roger Corominas · Jun 10, 2025

Varus90 said:
I'm sure it's been addressed before, but ruler titles (such as those in China, Korea, and Japan) make these events seem a little awkward when addressing the ruler. Yeah, that man's name was Yi Seong-gye, but after he became king he was known as King Taejo... (It's not limited to Asia, either, or this time period, as of course Albert Edward Saxe-Coburg-Gotha just became King Edward VII in 1901!)

We have a system of regnal names, but unfortunately it's not able to fully handle the complexities of naming for East Asian dynasties.

ArVass · Jun 10, 2025

Is there any reason for the player not to switch to Joseon? Do you risk anything by doing so?

sterile2 · Jun 10, 2025

A population of 2 million for Goryeo-era Korea seems too low. Many Korean papers estimate the population at the founding of the Joseon Dynasty to be between 5 and 6 million.

SupremTurtle · Jun 10, 2025

Please reconsider the event texts "Manchurian state of Jurchen origins" and "We are the Manchurian first and foremost" text option Replacing "Manchurian" with just "Manchu", is a much more natural option. It is like calling someone from the British Isles Britainian, from Ireland Irelandish, from Germany Germanian, etc. Unless Manchurain is specifically emphasizing the geographic localtion, which still does not make sense since Jurchen identity is tied with the region and there should be no need to emphasize on the geography at all. (Example, if Trebizond conquers Greece and Anatolia, and the event ot rename to Byanztine/Eastern Rome/Whatever reads "Trebezonian state of Pontic origins" and "We are Trebezonian first and foremost")

titan.bevel · Jun 10, 2025

Roger Corominas said:
I guess you refer to the Jurchen Confederacy IO? They are changed through vote by the members of the IO.

indeed I meant the confederacy IO. Thanks for the answer. Can you use bribe or war threats to change the votes of other members ?

Roger Corominas · Jun 10, 2025

angang0077 said:
Is there an event related to the appearance of King Sejong?

Not right now.

TheRighteous · Jun 10, 2025

matfer13 said:
Rather than Later Jin can you just call them Jin? Their official name was Jin, the "later" part was added to distinguish them from the Jurchen dynasty that existed before the Mongol conquest which I doubt is a releasable

In fact, due to Nurhaci's lack of knowledgeable ministers, he did use "Later Jin" as the country's name. Perhaps the Jurchens in the game were more knowledgeable and did not make a mistake.

Freshplayer · Jun 10, 2025

TheRighteous said:
In fact, due to Nurhaci's lack of knowledgeable ministers, he did use "Later Jin" as the country's name. Perhaps the Jurchens in the game were more knowledgeable and did not make a mistake.

Well, they did. But there was just one time in the Manwen Laodang (lit. Old Manchu Archives).

For most of the time, they just refer to themselves as Aisin Gurun (Gold State in Manchu; translated as Jin Guo 金国 in Chinese).

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