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Tinto Flavour #9 - 7th of March 2025 - Hungary

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Fridays where we share with you the flavourish content of the super secret Project Caesar!

Today we will take a look at one of my favourite countries to playtest the game, the Kingdom of Hungary!:

For centuries, the great Kingdom of Hungary defended the border of Christendom from the pagans and heathens beyond it. Recent noble rebellions put this duty in danger, but thanks to the iron hand of King d’Angiò Karoly, the disgruntled nobles have been reined back under his rule and the Christian bastion is renewed and reinforced.

However, the future of Hungary is not to dwell in peace, as already new trouble is brewing in the southeast that will challenge the strength of the Regnum Marianum.
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What fate awaits for the Kingdom of Hungary? Will it fall to the enemies of the faith? Or will it stand proud before the waves of those who seek its demise?

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We are currently working to have a more settled dynastic flavour, but for the moment, the House of Anjou is taking its naming from the Italian variant of it, since it’s the main House, so take it as WIP; as any UI, 2D and 3D art, as usual.​

Here is Hungary:
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And its starting diplomatic situation:
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Poland is allied, while Croatia is in a personal union. Not shown on the map (yet) is that Hungary is embargoing Austria, as a result of the pact made with Bohemia.​

Hungary has a few interesting interesting starting privileges:
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This is not a unique privilege, but a generic one that we created taking into account Hungary’s situation in 1337; a few countries across Europe also start with it enacted.

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We already showed this privilege in Tinto Flavour #1, if you remember. ​

By having it active, it may trigger this recurrent event:
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Classical flavour Parliament:
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And starting works of art:
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Here are some interesting advances for Hungary:
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This advance helps Hungary manage all the different cultures it starts with and also portrays a historical policy followed by many Hungarian kings in the Middle Ages.

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Cumans!

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Among the several options we had available to portray the infamous Black Army, we decided upon making them a regular Infantry unit. We thought about making it a unique mercenary company, but since they were usually directly on the payroll of the Hungarian kings, we thought that it would work better as a recruitable unique unit.​

A couple of war-oriented advances for the Age of Reformation:
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There’s a generic Hussar cavalry unit, that is available in the Age of Absolutism. This means that Hungary gets its unique Hussar cavalry unit one age earlier. They aren’t the only country with unique Hussar units, but we will show those in future Tinto Flavour…​

Also in the Age of Reformation, you will get these advances depending on which religion you follow; the first is for a Catholic Hungary, and the other two for a Protestant Hungary:
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We will explain what ‘Religious Influence’ and ‘Church Power Actions’ are in the Tinto Talks devoted to Catholicism and Protestantism, respectively. For the moment, we let you decide which religion is the True Faith, and which are Heretical and Heathen to you.​

Let’s now move to the narrative content for Hungary, which is really interesting in the first years of a game, since lots of historical events happened in real life...

Soon after the start of the game, you’ll get this event, showing the power of King Károly:
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An additional Cabinet Seat during the king’s life is a really strong bonus!​

This event may also trigger on a dynamic date:
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This eventually may lead to a follow-up event, which also unlocks a unique diplomatic relation:
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It doesn’t necessarily mean that both may unite, if both have an heir, as historically happened. For instance, this is from the gameplay I was doing to take the screenshots:
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During the reign of King Lajos, a few more interesting events happened:
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A very interesting event… I reported no less than 4 issues to fix when it got triggered!

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An interesting character to recruit…:
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Oh, and you may also be a secondary character in a Neapolitan plot…:
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…And much more, but that’s all for today! Next week, on Monday we will have the Tinto Maps Feedback for Arabia, and on Friday we will take a look at the Kingdom of Scotland! @SaintDaveUK and @Roger Corominas will reply instead of me for the later, as I have to take a flight that afternoon. Cheers!
 
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ArVass said:
It's funny, because Croatia is both a sovereign kingdom in personal union with Hungary and a subordinate province of the Hungarian Crown, depending on if you are talking about it in the context of the Kingdom of Croatia (de jure a separate kingdom, owned by the kings of Hungary but not "technically" subordinate) or the Banate of Croatia (de facto governs Croatia on behalf of the king as a subordinate vassal). I think it would be great if the game had some sort of Governorship-like "regency" system for junior partners, so that Croatia could have its king and its Ban at the same time somehow
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AFAIK the original (historical, 16-18th centuries) Croatian interpretation was that Croatia was still a "Land of the Holy Crown" just like Hungary, so the two entities were both part of the same state entity (so more than just a simple personal union, quasi a [con]federation), but the "two countries" had no hierarchical relations to each other. On the other hand, the Hungarian understanding of Croatia's situation was that Croatia is not only another country within the shared statual framework of the "Lands of the Holy Crown", but rather an entity that's also subordinate to Hungary within this framework.

These positions evolved into the 19-20th century Croatian position of "personal union" and the 19th-20th century Hungarian position of conquered province.

Oh btw., Deér József has a pretty good essay on the topic:

It would be nice if someone translated it to English. My hands are currently full with Kristó's work.
 
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@Pavía can we retroactively get a birdseye view of the terrain in Hungary like what the recent Tinto Flavours had?
 
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This big "i" cameoing on the side tells me that they implemented the -i suffix for location-named dynasties in the Hungarian language, which is a most welcome change. That is actually very nice.

I would maybe point out that we usually don't use this with the Anjous and just call them like "Anjou Károly" instead of "Anjoui Károly" or something (same with the Habsburgs, whom we just call Habsburg without a suffix, but the Luxembourgs are indeed referred to as Luxemburgi), but I won't point this out because knowing Paradox they then would likely entirely remove this feature instead of making some exceptions.
 
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ArVass said:
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This big "i" cameoing on the side tells me that they implemented the -i suffix for location-named dynasties in the Hungarian language, which is a most welcome change. That is actually very nice.

I would maybe point out that we usually don't use this with the Anjous and just call them like "Anjou Károly" instead of "Anjoui Károly" or something (same with the Habsburgs, whom we just call Habsburg without a suffix, but the Luxembourgs are indeed referred to as Luxemburgi), but I won't point this out because knowing Paradox they then would likely entirely remove this feature instead of making some exceptions.
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On a similar note, the blue colour for the dynasty means Robert king of Naples's line is the senior branch right? Does that mean that the Neapolitan line is also "Anjoui" here?

Also, I'm not sure what the consensus is, but should the Neapolitan branch be represented as the senior branch, considering Caroberto's father Charles Martel was the eldest son of Charles II, not Robert?
 
koreanjesus218 said:
On a similar note, the blue colour for the dynasty means Robert king of Naples's line is the senior branch right? Does that mean that the Neapolitan line is also "Anjoui" here?

Also, I'm not sure what the consensus is, but should the Neapolitan branch be represented as the senior branch, considering Caroberto's father Charles Martel was the eldest son of Charles II, not Robert?
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I think the colour/senior branch and the local equivalent of the name are two separate things. So Hungary can have it localised as Anjou-i but at the same time recognise Naples as the main branch.
 
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