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Tinto Maps #15 - 23rd of August 2024 - Horn of Africa

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps! After a short break, we’re back to the duty of sharing more maps! Today the region we will look at is the Horn of Africa! So let’s take a look at it, without further ado:

Countries:
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Here we have the countries around Nubia, Ethiopia, and Somalia. The first ones are organized around the ancient kingdoms of Makuria and Alodia, which control the Upper Nile region. In the second area, the Empire of Ethiopia stands as the main power, with some smaller countries around it. Finally, the two Islamic sultanates of Ifat and Ajuraan stand as the main powers in the Horn and Somalia. Finally, around the African Great Lakes, there is a country that can be considered a ‘settled’ one, Kitara.

Dynasties:
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The dynasties of the Horn. There are some historical ones, while others are randomly generated. The most famous one is probably the Ethiopian House of Solomon, from where all their Negus come. The Walshma ruler over both Ifat and Ajuraan and we have some others, such as the Medri of Medri Bahri, the Umar of Mogadishu, the Banu Kanz of Makuria, or the Baranzi of Kitara.

Societies of Pops:
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A new map has popped up! Here you can see the countries that we consider as ‘Societies of Pops’, as they were presented in the last Tinto Talks. We have the famous Oromo people in the lands between Ethiopia, Ifat and Ajuraan; the Kunama, Gumuz, and Berta in the lands between Ethiopia; and Alodia, and the Zaghwa to the north of Wadai; there are a few more to the west, but I’ll share that picture in the Western Africa thread, as it’s more appropriate there. There are more Stateless Societies of this kind that we would like to add in the future, if it is possible due to our schedule.

Locations:
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Locations! You might notice that the density is quite unequal. Unfortunately, the archaeological findings for the period are scarce, specially out of the most known areas and a lack of urbanization in most of the territory has made the finding of proper non-anachronistic settlements quite a challenge. Keep this in mind when making suggestions. ;) It has been that dramatic in some areas that we had to use names of tribes and rivers, a bit contradicting our own rules, but the areas had to be represented as they were active parts in the development of the region.
One thing: a big chunk of the Arabian peninsula can be seen in today’s Tinto Maps; but, please, reserve the feedback for its future DD, when we’ll show all of the peninsula. Apart from that, you can see more detailed maps if you click on the spoiler button, as usual.


Provinces:
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Areas:
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Terrain:
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The terrain types of the region are quite interesting and diverse. It is marked by the Rift Valley, which creates different biomes, such as the Ethiopian Highlands and Plateau, or the African Great Lakes. That also marks a divide between Arid, Tropical, and Oceanic climates. The vegetation of the region also ranges from desertic and sparse, to jungle forests. And one more note: you may also note that 'Marshes' have been renamed into 'Wetlands', as we could put some work into that suggestion the last week.

Natural Harbors:
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Cultures:
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Another interesting map this week… You might notice that the lands of Ethiopia have a very mixed cultural situation. While more to the west and south, we are representing ‘tribal lands’ in a more homogeneous way, with kind of fixed boundaries to represent the different groupings. This doesn’t mean that there wouldn’t be a mixing of cultures, but this was one of the first areas to receive a minority's review and the scope was limited mostly to Ethiopia.

Religion:
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Another interesting map! Miaphysite and Sunni are the more widespread religions in the region (while not all areas have their mixed populations, such as Nubia as you might notice, they eventually will as we cover more of the map in our sprints). Animism is completely placeholder, as usual, and you might see some pockets here and there (If you have specific suggestions, please do them). You may also notice a purple minority inside Ethiopia… That is representing the Beta Israel Judaism in the provinces of Semien, of course!

Raw Materials:
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The raw materials of this week! A big chunk of the region has livestock as its main raw material, while also having some agricultural goods as Wheat or Sturdy Grains here and there. The most unique good in the region is Coffee, which is cultivated in the Ethiopian highlands. And there are also some precious resources spread here and there, such as Gold, Ivory, Gems, and Incense.

Markets:
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The main market centers of the region are Axum and Mogadishu, with ‘Adan/Aden being the main one controlling the access to the Red Sea. There are some weird calculations ongoing on the Somalian inner lands, that are already reported, and we’ll take a look at why is that happening.

Population:
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The population of the region! There are approximately 12.3M people in the Eastern African subcontinent; although take into account that it also comprises the regions of the Southern Great Lakes and the Swahili Coast, which we haven’t shown today, so we probably have to discount around 4M people from it (Swahili Coast accounts for 1.7M, and the Great Lakes for 4M, although that region is divided between today’s and next week’s Tinto Maps), for a total of around 8M.

That’s all for today! Speaking of next week’s Tinto Maps, it will be meaty, as it will cover Central, Eastern, and Southern Africa! See you!
 
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Are there not any coastal minorities in Somalia, or are they just too small to appear on the map? (From what I know of the area the coastal cities had a lot of people coming and going from all over the Islamic world)
 
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Are there not any coastal minorities in Somalia, or are they just too small to appear on the map? (From what I know of the area the coastal cities had a lot of people coming and going from all over the Islamic world)
There aren't currently, we'll very likely review that.
 
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  • I'm pretty sure the Kenyan Luo should NOT be in their current location in 1337, they migrated around the turn of the 16th century from Uganda or perhaps South Sudan. I'm also doubtful on the Datooga/Tatoga and Maasai.
  • Alodia and Makuria should be monarchies, not tribes.
  • Ateker may be a better name for Turkana culture, given that it seems to include Teso.
  • Somewhat surprised there aren't more societies of pops. I think Dinka and Shilluk may be good candidates for this. Shilluk might be encouraged to form a proper kingdom later on as they did historically.
  • Komo culture seems to be in the wrong place - they live around Kisangani, far to the west. Ituri (the current Batete location) is mostly Lendu (the Hema didn't arrive until the 1800s), North Kivu (the Pere location) mostly Nande, and South Kivu (the Komo location) mostly Shi (or closely related peoples). I do understand you'd probably like to avoid lots of one location cultures, so you could just pick one of these and apply it to the whole area which is currently Komo culture.
  • How about renaming Nyoro culture to Rutara? It's accurate for the time period, as it was not yet split into Nyoro and other dialects. Ganda (including Soga) should really be split off though.
  • Shouldn't Kitara control a few more locations, such as Kibiro, Katwe and Isinguro? Unless it wasn't at its apogee at this time.
  • I'd expect Tigre to be half or more of the population in the Badi location. The ethnicity extends into modern Sudan.
  • Waddai as a country did not exist until 1501. And their culture was Maba, not Tunjur. I'm unsure who ruled Ouaddai at this time if anyone.
  • Soba should probably have its own market.
  • I'd suggest creating new Dar Runga and Dar Fertit locations around the CAR-Sudan-Chad border area. They were often raided by Wadai, Baguirmi and Darfur. Dar Runga at some point became a tributary of Wadai.
  • I hope there will be some way of having Buganda appear. Britannica seems to say that it was founded in the late 14th century, so not that long after game start.
  • Barawa should probably have a minority of Swahili pops. See Bravanese people

I would recommend looking at the traditional counties of Buganda and the divisions of Kitara for location ideas. I mapped out most of them in google earth (might have trimmed down here and there where it didn't make sense), but obviously it's at your discretion to decide on the density and which specific ones to use, if any.

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That one location to the east of Kyaddondo hidden by its label is Kyaggwe.

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In lieu of known precolonial towns, maybe individual sub-tribes would be a good starting point for new locations in South Sudan? The region doesn't need to be high density, but currently it looks like one of the lowest density regions in game, which won't be good for gameplay. Here are some maps that may be useful:

 
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I don't believe the Kenyan Luo, Tsoga, Maasai or Kalenjin should be in their current location in 1337, they migrated several centuries later.

Somewhat surprised there aren't more societies of pops. I would have liked to see some of the Nilotic peoples as SoPs, especially Dinka and Nuer. The Shilluk people also established a centralized kingdom in the 1400s, will there be some way for this to appear?

Komo culture seems to be in the wrong place. Preliminarily I think Konzo or Shi would be better choices for Kivu.

How about renaming Nyoro culture to Kitara(n) or Rutara? It's accurate for the time period, as it was not yet split into Nyoro and other dialects. Also shouldn't Kitara control a few more locations, such as Kibiro, Katwe and Isinguro?

I might update later with location feedback on Uganda and southern Ethiopia. I would recommend looking at the traditional counties of Buganda for location ideas.
We'll double-check all of this, thanks!
 
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There's gonna be 100 youtube videos of people playing tall as Kitara doing nothing all game titled: "IS THIS THE LEAST PLAYED NATION IN [redacted]???!??!?!?!?"
 
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The ports seem a bit harsh: where are the East African port cities? Mogadishu, Mombasa and especially Zanzibar should all probably have decent port feasibility.

The natural ports feature doesn't mean you can't build large ports anywhere else, it just might be more expensive to build ports without natural harbors.
If you look at satellite imagery of Mogadishu or Zanzibar, they do not have natural harbors.

Mombasa is a different story--Kilindini port is actually quite a good harbor and should probably be labeled as such, though it was also quite tidal


EDIT: I got curious and took a look at historical maps of Zanzibar. Surprisingly, Zanzibar indeed lacks any significant natural harbor features. There's a tidal creek that used to flow behind Stone Town, which gave it the appearance of having a natural harbor, but this was a tidal creek that would entirely dry up at low tide, allowing people to cross to and from Stone Town on foot
 
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Will you make that possible?
Not sure. As Johan said, there's a lot of pending work yet to be done regarding that type of country, and we're not sure what will make the cut before the release of PC, so we prefer to be very cautious regarding them.
 
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We can't see but just in case: Ethiopian Judaism shouldn't be rabbinic but Haymanot since it is different both in beliefs and practices (no rabbinical Oral Law, own customs, etc.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymanot

It is as different from other forms of Judaism than Nestorians differ from Catholics. I really hope you will represent Jewish faiths in their diversity.

Haymanot should have neutral opinion towards Rabbinic and Karaite, but the two latter should dislike each other.
 
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Seems like too little markets, I would at least add a nubian one in either Dongola or Soba and one in northern Somalia in either Berbera or Zeila
 
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There's gonna be 100 youtube videos of people playing tall as Kitara doing nothing all game titled: "IS THIS THE LEAST PLAYED NATION IN [redacted]???!??!?!?!?"
Wakanda Kitara Forever!?
 
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