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Tinto Maps #29 - 13th of December 2024 - Central America

Hello everybody, and welcome to Tinto Maps, the happy Fridays for map lovers! Today, we will be looking at Central America, which includes the Caribbean. Before we start, I want to introduce you @RaulTrullenque , the only member of our Content Design team who had not yet gone public, and who worked really hard on the maps and content of the Central American and South American regions.

And now let’s get started without further ado!

Countries
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Welcome to the Mesoamerican Thunder Dome! This area is characterized by its numerous Altepetl, more or less comparable to city-states. Most of them are ruled in 1337 by peoples of Nahua origin, something that you may see much more clearly in the culture map. The biggest power in this moment is the Empire of P’urhépecherio, though, founded by the Purepecha people. In any case, you may notice that there’s a lot of detail in this area, including a tiny Nahua settlement recently founded on an island over Lake Texcoco, Tenochtitlan. This is the first time in a PDX GSG that we have the island itself present on the map, although the location covers some more land over the lake coast, to make it playable. Finally, we also have the Mayan polities of the Postclassic Period, of which Cocom, with its capital Màayapáan, was the most important, along with others, such as K’iche’ and its capital Q’umarkaj.

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On the outskirts of the Mesoamerican polities, there are plenty of peoples organized on different ways. To the north, we have the ones that populate the area known as Aridoamerica, which were collectively termed by the Nahua as ‘Chichimeca’. We also have plenty of societies close to the Mayan lands and the Isthmus. And, finally, the Taíno people populate some of the biggest islands in the Caribbean.

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Plenty of locations here! I just want no note that the Darien Gap is an impassable wasteland, which means that any army trying to cross from modern Panama and Colombia will need transport ships to be able to do it.

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Areas
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A very diverse region! Most of it is covered by Tropical Jungles and Forests, but Sierra Madre Occidental and Oriental make for very specific conditions in the Mexican Altiplano, which are not only visible in the Topography map but also in the climate and vegetation of the area.

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The most developed regions in Mesoamerica are the Valley of Mexico and the Mayan coastline.

Natural Harbors
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There are some good ports in the Caribbean, no surprise that most of them would later become important cities in the Colonial Period.

Culture
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Tons of cultures!

Language
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And also languages! The first two maps are the Dominant Languages per location, while the third is the Court Languages one. The dark blue language is ‘Totozoquean’, as it is not so easily readable (something we have to change).

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This map is today in a more advanced state, as we have merged plenty of cultural religions into regional groupings. Of these, Tonalism, Nahua, and Mayan are part of the Tonalist religious groups, while the others are part of the Folk American group (a regional split of the former ‘Animist’ group). Nahua and Mayan have their different mechanics, which we’ll talk about in future Tinto Talks. Let us know what do you think of this design and any suggestions about the religious grouping!

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Maize is king in Mesoamerica, although there are plenty of other resources, including juicy Gold and Silver. Obsidian is not a separate resource, as it’s too regional-specific, so it’s included under the Gem coverage, but we have ways to represent it in-game; for instance, there’s a production method to produce Weaponry using Gems as an input.

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A couple of bugs were reported while taking the screenshot of this map! But well, you can see that Azcapotzalco, Màayapáan, and Noh Petén (capital of the Itza people) are the most important ones.

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We have solved a couple of issues with the pop editor, and this week this map is in a decent state to be shown! Yay! Total numbers in the region are roughly 8.6M pops, distributed this way:
  • 523K in Aridoamerica (includes the lands to the North-West of the Purepecha Empire)
  • 6.947M in Mesoamerica (including North-Western Mayan lands)
  • 1.003M in Central America (including South-Eastern Mayan lands)
  • 151K in the Caribbean Islands

And that’s all for today! We hope you enjoyed these meaty maps! Next week we will be taking a look at the Levant Feedback, on Monday 16th, and South America, on Friday 20th! Cheers!
 
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Looks amazing so far and I'm thrilled to see Tenochtitlan as an island! Before I start, is the northern part of South America also part of the discussion? They were culturally more connected to the Caribbean if I recall correctly. I'm glad to see Tairona and would comment on the lack of Zenu polities but I'd like to be sure if that's better saved for next week.
 
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Are all the former Animist Relgions in the Americas part of the Folk American religious group?
Otherwise, what religions are part of it?
Yes.
 
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Looks amazing so far and I'm thrilled to see Tenochtitlan as an island! Before I start, is the northern part of South America also part of the discussion? They were culturally more connected to the Caribbean if I recall correctly. I'm glad to see Tairona and would comment on the lack of Zenu polities but I'd like to be sure if that's better saved for next week.
We'll show more detailed maps of those areas in next week's Tinto Maps, better to give the feedback there.
 
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Wonderful seeing Aztec Island. The whole map looks beautiful. When reading Fire & Blood:A history of Mexico by T.H Fehrenbach, I had the impression that the Aztecs were "Blood Crusaders". While other tribes in the region did have blood sacrfice, they were on rare occasions, usually during a crises. The aztecs on the other hand fought wars purely to get captives for sacrifice, doing this activity on a much more regular basis. So much so that when the spanish arrived, other tribes allied themselves with Cortez to fight against the Aztec oppression. I think this would merit a unique religion for them, or at least some unique mechanics. Excited to see how thing shape out!
 
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Does the Tenochtitlan location also include Tlacopan? It should be on the lakeside almost due west from the artificial island. It would be cool if they were separate as Tlacopan was one of the founding members of the Triple Alliance even if it was the most junior in power and tribute of the three.

Too tight, we had to pick between Tenochtitlan, Tlacopan, and Azcapotzalco, as there isn't enough room for the three.
 
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North part of Mopan people should belong to the Dzuluinicob state centered in Tipu, possibly vassal of Itza
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Also west of Tipu should be Chinamita
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Also, east of the lake of Nojpeten should belong to Yalain entity
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Will there be more competition in the Caribbean? with 4+ colonial nations showing interest rather than 1-2
More locations available for colonization means that it will be more difficult to 'cut' other countries from colonization without a war. That should make the region much more interesting in MP, BTW.
 
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I'm noticing a complete lack of any spice goods (Unless I'm totally missing them) and I'm wondering about the rationale behind that choice.

I suppose you might be representing chili peppers under fruit, which would definitely be odd, but probably not awful. While botanically correct, it doesn't quite match what it was used for - that is, a spice.

How about vanilla, though? Is cocoa essentially meant to represent both goods? Why not make vanilla a spice?
 
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Man i wish i knew enough to provide useful feedback.
I will say that i hope it is possible to research bronze working and somehow exploit Cosihuiriachi up in aridaomerica as a mesoamerican state.
Actually a wonder what's the best military tech you can get in the new world pre Columbus.
 
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