Tinto Talks #37 - 13th of November 2024

[Johan]

what are some examples of dynamic works of art names after the start? or will future created artworks all exist irl? what happens if i produce 100 paintings as a minor culture like the romansh?

We got a dynamic naming system

 

[Johan]

how can architectural works of art be looted? like the St Mark's Basilica shown in the image
and also why would a architect moving from country A to country B make all their art benefit country B if their art are literal buildings constructed in country A?

Not all art can be moved.

 

[Johan]

Quick question: If you, as the player of England, poach a Norman artist from France and he creates a work of art, does it benefit the English cultural dominance or tradition, or does it benefit the Norman cultural dominance or tradition, or both or neither or one of each or - you get my question.

English culture, if that is England's primary culture.

 

[Johan]

Can works of art be moved to another location within the country? Are they moved if the capital changes? Excluding monuments of course

most dont move

 

[Johan]

Does looted art count for cultural tradition as equally as art created in the country?

yes. if its art in your capital, its YOUR culture.

 

[Johan]

1.Do poets fall under the writer category?

2.Shouldn't religious scholars be artists considering the fact that philosophers are?there were many cases of Mullahs moving betweem sponsored countries,for example due to the lack of established Shia clergy in Iran the Safavids invited a ton of them from modern Lebanon and Iraq.

1 - yes
2 - religion is a different thing.

 

[Johan]

Great dev diary as always! I do have a few questions though:

1. Could cultural influence tie into hegemonies? For example, could a military hegemon influence how other cultures develop their military traditions, so they have a strong cultural influence.
2. How does the cost of investing in art compare to other things, like recruiting regiments, building roads, or buildings?
3. Are there events or decisions tied to looting or destroying art during sieges?
4. can the estates commission art?

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1 - we have a cultural hegemony
2 - similar to navy or court.
3 - no, you have no control over its destruction, as soldiers are unruly when sacking.
4 - no

 

[Johan]

That's great, thank you.

Is there a geographical aspect to culture wars and cultural influence, or are the calculations the same for neighbouring countries as for the countries on the other side of the world?

no geographical aspect to the actual culture comparison, its applied seperately where valid.

 

[Johan]

Looking at Michelangelo, I guess artists can have multiple specializations?

Sadly not.

 

[Johan]

What type of artist makes regalia?

Metalsmith iirc

 

[Johan]

Those works of art have some detailed names and descriptions. Is there a finite number of works of art in the game?

Flavor-descs are only for historical pieces of art. Those at start or from events.

 

[SaintDaveUK]

Wouldn't make sense for the Pale to be Anglo-Irish rather than English?

Most senior statesmen in the Lordship of Ireland appear to have been English-born knights on temporary assignments, similar to how later British Empire colonies were run. In fact, in 1340, Edward III ordered that only men who earned income from lands in England could occupy ministerial positions in the Lordship.

 

[SaintDaveUK]

5) Can we add modifiers to a culture by event, or do they have to be added in the culture file and can't be changed once the game starts?

Defined in the culture file and can't be changed

 

[SaintDaveUK]

Can characters/artist speak more than one language?

Characters have 1 culture and their language is drawn from that.

 

[SaintDaveUK]

I'm surprised to see no Inventor (for the English), Calligrapher (for Asian or Arab cultures) or Historian as types of artists. How moddable is the system?

Easy to mod in what you want

 

[SaintDaveUK]

Ok but can the Pale for Ireland though? Or they need to convert to do that?

Currently the formable is only for Anglo-Irish and Irish. Makes sense for the Pale to always be able to form it though I think.

 

[SaintDaveUK]

Countries can change primary culture?
Can a primary culture nation change in the game?

You can swap an Accepted Culture for a Primary Culture

 

[SaintDaveUK]

could we get rid of blue on brown backgrounds?
they clash so much
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That is the intention. It's all wip

 

[Pavía]

In a Friday afternoon project, I've addressed some of the feedback you've given us and I've just created a new Artist type of artist that's been widely requested, 'Calligrapher'. This is how it looks like script-wise:

calligrapher = {
potential = {
OR = {
court_language = language:arabic_language
court_language = language:chinese_language
court_language = language:korean_language
court_language = language:japanese_language
court_language = language:mongolian_language
court_language = language:nepali_language
court_language = language:tibetan_language
court_language = language:vietnamese_language
}
}
}

ARTIST_TYPE_NAME_calligrapher: "Calligrapher"
ARTIST_TYPE_DESC_calligrapher: "Calligraphers create art through intricate combinations of letters, that may be exposed in books or scrolls, usually in palaces and temples. Famous calligraphers of the era include Mir Emad Hassani, Han Seok-bong, or the #italic Kan'ei Sanpitsu#!."

 

[Pavía]

Calligraphy is also important for Persians, Turks, and Urdu speakers. I think maybe it should be extended to all Muslim cultures.

In a quick search, I've found that Nasta'liq Islamic calligraphy uses Persian language, so I'm adding it to the list; however, I haven't been able to found if Turkic (Diwani) and Urdu use their own language, or they're just variants of Quranic Arabic (and, in that case, they would already be covered by Arabic). So any further feedback on this would be appreciated.