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Tinto Talks #59 - 16th of April 2025

Hello and welcome once again to our super secret Project Caesar Tinto Talks. I will be your host this time, where we will be talking about the mechanics of Catholicism and its associated Catholic Church International Organization.

Here’s an overview of the religion itself:
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One thing to highlight here besides all the other effects, is that Catholic countries are not able to tax their clergy at all by default, although there may be other things modifying this on top of it. However, the clergy won’t necessarily swim in money, as that has to be instead paid to the Papacy directly in the form of a tithe.
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Another key aspect of Catholicism is that all Catholic countries will belong to the Catholic Church IO:
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You can see here that there are quite many countries belonging to it (the total list is expandable and scrollable), with some of them having some special statuses. For Bishopric and Military Order these are self-explanatory, but the Curia and Cardinals need some more information.

The decisions concerning the Catholic Church are taken by the Curia, which is composed of Cardinals. In Project Caesar, Cardinals are represented by a special building, called Cardinal Seat, available to be built by Catholic countries higher than county rank in any location where they already own a large religious building. Each Cardinal Seat will grant its owner country a Cardinal, which the country can use to influence the decisions of the Curia (more on that later). Countries can have more than one Cardinal Seat and thus more than one Cardinal, that’s why in the panel you can see that there’s 7 countries in the Curia but a total of 16 Cardinals among them.
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Another aspect of the Catholic Church IO is its doctrines, represented by a set of laws. These laws are not something that’s easily changed, as it’s what defines the core values of Catholicism, but some important events will be able to shape them, like for example the Council of Trent (more on that in future Tinto Talks). Here are some of these laws effects:
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Next to the Doctrines, we have the Papal Bulls. These are actions that any Catholic country can choose to propose, but only those in the Curia can vote on whether to pass them or refuse them. Here are the possible bulls with some examples:
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When voting on a Papal Bull, the interface changes slightly to show how many cardinals support each option. It goes without saying that all the cardinals that a country has will be assigned to vote for the same option, so the amount of cardinals a country has is effectively its amount of votes.
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Besides the Papal Bulls, there’s also the action of Excommunication, available to all countries of the Curia, that if approved, will get the excommunicated country some very nasty modifiers and allow for a special casus belli.

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The Catholic Church also has some extra aspects in the form of Saints and Holy Sites. Saints are characters of a country that have been elevated to sainthood. A country can choose to canonize any of its previous rulers, and they will get benefits depending on the abilities of such character. Holy Sites are special locations to the Catholic faith, giving some extra income to their owner due to the affluence of faithful in them.
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Outside the Catholic Church per se and instead in the main religion panel, there are some extra religious actions available to certain countries, besides the already mentioned option to canonize a character.
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  • Demand Apostolic Tax is an action exclusive to the Papacy, in which they will demand extra payment from those countries with the Apostolic Tax privilege enabled.
  • Request Aid is an action exclusive to the military orders, in which they can ask to petition support to the Pope for their infrastructure, military, or coffers.
  • Placitum Regium is an action available to kingdoms or empires that gives them some extra crown power at the expense of relations with the Papacy.

One last thing to mention here is that, as you can see, Catholicism also has Reform Desire. However, in contrast to some other of our titles that also present this value, here it is not a ticking clock for the Reformation, but instead something that will come into play in the Council of Trent. As such, you will have to wait a bit for a further explanation on it.

And that is all for today, next week we will resolve these cliffhangers by taking a further look at what Catholicism has in store after the start of the game, including the situations of the Western Schism, Reformation, and the Council of Trent. On the other hand, in this week’s Tinto Flavor we will go directly to the head of Catholicism by taking a look at the flavor content for the Papal States. Also, remember that this week’s Tinto Flavour will be on Thursday, as this week is Good Friday and the Papal States would be too busy to attend their own Tinto Flavor then (oh, and it’s also a holiday).

See you next time!
 
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Basically when a few nearby dioceses becomes big enough the pope reorganizes them under a cardinal...at least that's pretty much how it's worked for the past few centuries. Before that it was probably a bit more political.
I believe you're confusing a cardinal with an archbishop. To (over)simplify a pretty complex hierarchy:
  • The pope is the bishop of Rome and head of the Catholic church.
  • An archbishop has jurisdiction over a number of dioceses in the form of an archdiocese or ecclesiastical province.
  • Each bishop heads a number of parishes in the form of a diocese, or ecclesiastical district
  • Each priest has jurisdiction over a parish church
The Collage of Cardinals is a related hierarchy drawing on a small number of members from the above hierarchy. Cardinals are often senior members of the clergy, usually but not always bishops or archbishops. Cardinals under the age of 80 vote for a new pope if the last dies, advise the living pope and lead the church in the time between the pope's death and the next's election. They are given lead over titular churches in Rome (A ceremonial position, the duties of which are usually taken up by a lower member of the clergy) To make it more confusing, there are ranks to this role, too:
  • The Dean of the College of Cardinals is the most senior cardinal-bishop elected by the other cardinals. They announce the pope's death, call the conclave which elects the pope and asks for their new papal name, but are otherwise equal to other cardinal-bishops.
  • Cardinal bishops are senior cardinals who is given titular lead one of the Sees overseeing the titular churches in Rome which are ceremonially led by the cardinal priests.
  • Cardinal priests compose most of the college and are usually bishops, archbishops or hold an important position in the Curia. They are given a titular church in Rome.
  • The Cardinal protodeacon is the most senior cardinal deacon, and responsible for announcing the new pope after election, and crowning the pope.
  • Cardinal deacons are the least senior cardinals, and often priests elevated to the rank as a sign of respect after turning 80 (When they are no longer allowed to vote, as a cardinal)
  • The Cardinal Vicar is a member of the clergy responsible for actually leading the diocese of Rome, because the Bishop of Rome is the Pope, and typically too busy to do so in person.
Before relatively recently, it wasn't even required that you were a bishop - a priest could be appointed as a cardinal, and in fact you were not required to be ordained as a priest before being appointed cardinal, and it was the pope's sole discretion who got the role. It's only a recent tradition which places these restrictions. If the game were to portray the occasional priest or layperson getting the role, it would be historical, though still a relatively rare event.

Starting the sainthood process didn't (and still doesn't) involve the pope but only bishops, but ultimately to be termed 'Saint' it needs to go through the pope. This should at the very least be something decided by the Curia.
Ultimately I think the game can abstract this as having the pope be able to approve every saint from the start, but in real life it could be done by other senior officials in the Vatican who had been appointed to the office in charge of investigating claims of sainthood, and could no longer be done by bishops or lower clergy. It's only from the 17th century that the rules were changed to then require a final approval from the pontiff, himself in every case brought before him once the investigation had found sufficient evidence of the claims of sainthood.
 
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There are 752 in 1337, I made a list based on the database that Sulphurologist linked:
GurkAustria
LavantAustria
SalzburgAustria
SeckauAustria
LiègeBelgium
TournaiBelgium
BosniaBosnia
DuvnoBosnia
TrebinjeBosnia
Dubrovnik (Ragusa)Croatia
KninCroatia
Korčula (Curzola)Croatia
Krk (Veglia)Croatia
LesinaCroatia
ModrusCroatia
Nin (Nona)Croatia
Novigrad (Cittanova d'Istria)Croatia
Osor (Ossero)Croatia
Pićan (Pedena)Croatia
Poreč (Parenzo)Croatia
PulaCroatia
Rab (Arbe)Croatia
SenjCroatia
Šibenik (Sebenico)Croatia
Skradin (Scardona)Croatia
Split (Spalato)Croatia
Trogir (Trau)Croatia
Zadar (Zara)Croatia
ZagrebCroatia
FamagustaCyprus
LimassolCyprus
NicosiaCyprus
PaphosCyprus
OlomoucCzech Republic
Praha (Prague)Czech Republic
AarhusDenmark
BorglumDenmark
Faroe IslandsDenmark
OdenseDenmark
RibeDenmark
RoskildeDenmark
ViborgDenmark
Bath & WellsEngland
CanterburyEngland
CarlisleEngland
ChichesterEngland
DurhamEngland
ElyEngland
ExeterEngland
HerefordEngland
Lichfield & CoventryEngland
LincolnEngland
LondonEngland
NorwichEngland
RochesterEngland
SalisburyEngland
WinchesterEngland
WorcesterEngland
YorkEngland
DorpatEstonia
Osel-WiekEstonia
RevalEstonia
AboFinland
AcciaFrance
AgdeFrance
AgenFrance
AireFrance
AixFrance
AjaccioFrance
AlbiFrance
AleriaFrance
AletFrance
AmiensFrance
AngersFrance
AngoulêmeFrance
AptFrance
ArlesFrance
ArrasFrance
AuchFrance
AutunFrance
AuxerreFrance
AvignonFrance
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BayeuxFrance
BayonneFrance
BazasFrance
BeauvaisFrance
BelleyFrance
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BordeauxFrance
BourgesFrance
CahorsFrance
CambraiFrance
CarcassonneFrance
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CavaillonFrance
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DieFrance
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GapFrance
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GrasseFrance
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LescarFrance
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ParisFrance
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RieuxFrance
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TulleFrance
UzesFrance
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EichstättGermany
FreisingGermany
HalberstadtGermany
HavelbergGermany
HildesheimGermany
LübeckGermany
MagdeburgGermany
MainzGermany
MeissenGermany
MerseburgGermany
MindenGermany
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OsnabruckGermany
PaderbornGermany
PassauGermany
RatzeburgGermany
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SchleswigGermany
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SpeyerGermany
TrierGermany
VerdenGermany
WormsGermany
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PécsHungary
VácHungary
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TuamIreland
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DownIreland (Northern)
DromoreIreland (Northern)
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IvreaItaly
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LecceItaly
LesinaItaly
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LeucaItaly
LipariItaly
LodiItaly
LuccaItaly
LuceraItaly
LuniItaly
MacerataItaly
ManfredoniaItaly
MantovaItaly
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MartiranoItaly
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Muro (Lucano)Italy
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NardoItaly
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NepiItaly
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OrteItaly
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PloagheItaly
PolicastroItaly
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PortoItaly
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PozzuoliItaly
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RavennaItaly
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RomaItaly
RossanoItaly
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SalernoItaly
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SpoletoItaly
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StrongoliItaly
SuelliItaly
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TeleseItaly
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TerralbaItaly
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TrataliasItaly
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TrevisoItaly
TricaricoItaly
TriesteItaly
TriventoItaly
TroiaItaly
TropeaItaly
TuscaniaItaly
UgentoItaly
UmanaItaly
UmbriaticoItaly
UrbinoItaly
VelletriItaly
VenafroItaly
VenosaItaly
VentimigliaItaly
VercelliItaly
VeroliItaly
VeronaItaly
VicenzaItaly
Vico EquenseItaly
ViesteItaly
ViterboItaly
VolterraItaly
Volturara (Appula)Italy
Courland (Kurland)Latvia
RigaLatvia
MdinaMalta
BarMontenegro
BudvaMontenegro
Kotor (Cattaro)Montenegro
UlcinjMontenegro
UtrechtNetherlands
BergenNorway
HamarNorway
NidarosNorway
OsloNorway
StavangerNorway
ChełmnoPoland
GnieznoPoland
KamminPoland
KrakowPoland
Kujawy (Włocławek)Poland
LebusPoland
PlockPoland
PomesaniaPoland
PoznanPoland
Warmia (Ermland)Poland
WrocławPoland
BragaPortugal
CoimbraPortugal
EvoraPortugal
GuardaPortugal
LamegoPortugal
LisboaPortugal
OportoPortugal
SilvesPortugal
ViseuPortugal
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OradeaRomania
SamlandRussia
AberdeenScotland
ArgyllScotland
BrechinScotland
CaithnessScotland
DunblaneScotland
DunkeldScotland
GallowayScotland
GlasglowScotland
IslesScotland
MorayScotland
OrkneyScotland
RossScotland
ScotlandScotland
St. AndrewsScotland
NitraSlovakia
St. Martin (exempt provostship of)Slovakia
Koper (Capodistria)Slovenia
AgerSpain
Albarracín-SegorbeSpain
AstorgaSpain
AvilaSpain
BadajozSpain
BarcelonaSpain
BurgosSpain
CádizSpain
CalahorraSpain
CartagenaSpain
Ciudad RodrigoSpain
CordobaSpain
CoriaSpain
CuencaSpain
GeronaSpain
HuescaSpain
JaénSpain
LeonSpain
LeridaSpain
LugoSpain
MallorcaSpain
MondoñedoSpain
OrenseSpain
OsmaSpain
OviedoSpain
PalenciaSpain
PamplonaSpain
PlasenciaSpain
SalamancaSpain
SantiagoSpain
SegoviaSpain
SevillaSpain
SigüenzaSpain
TarazonaSpain
TarragonaSpain
ToledoSpain
ToledoSpain
TortosaSpain
TuiSpain
UrgelSpain
ValenciaSpain
VicSpain
ZamoraSpain
ZaragozaSpain
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LundSweden
SkaraSweden
SträngnäsSweden
UppsalaSweden
VasterasSweden
VaxjoSweden
BaselSwitzerland
ChurSwitzerland
GenevaSwitzerland
KonstanzSwitzerland
LausanneSwitzerland
Sion (Sitten)Switzerland
PrzemyślUkraine
BangorWales
LlandaffWales
St. AsaphWales
St. David'sWales
Obviously these would not be all in the game, and I'm all for cutting down the numbers to make them more manageable, and not include every single small one. I doubt it would be fun if a unified Italy had to deal with 300 bishops as characters in the country.
I agree that there might need to be a system for cutting down the number of characters even more, if the game generally doesn't want to simulate a lot of characters other than the ruling family.

My suggestion was made on the basis that the cardinal spots would be filled at all times, which would necessitate an immediate replacement for any character that dies.
In an idealized system each of the (constituting at least a single location's worth of territory; no doubling up) bishoprics would be relied on by the overarching state to try to keep the people happy. Rather than being "well I have 300 bishoprics I now get to micromanage", they're actually the things sparing you from much of the micromanagement; they're the things doing the converting of the populace, building desired religious buildings, sending complaints your way in the event that the people feel overtaxed...

Obviously it's not a perfect system and in areas where there is no single sovereign state that can push back against the excesses of the church you can see a building resentment, but ideally it should be the state that leans on these centers of faith to reduce micromanagement, rather than create it through their mere presence.
 
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Can the Reformation be avoided or at least heavily weakened before it happens or is it railroaded similarly to EU4?

So I see the option to convert to Catholicism from the players perspective, but is there any way to try to influence AI nations to take that decision/maybe lower the stability cost for them if I was playing a Holy Order especially?

Does the stability cost decrease if more of your population is of that religion? If I go from 100% Tengri with 50k people to 95% Catholic with 800k it would probably be easier to convert?
 
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Regarding the holy seats, I'd be nice if they can be changed by event or decision. For example, in case you can mend the eastern schism so that you can also get some of the holy sites from the orthodox.
 
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Nice to see more indepth religion.

I have to ask if there are other religions that are IO's and what the deciding factors would be for which ones are and aren't. I also wonder if other religions get similar mechanics like the holy-sites, and how players might interact them.
 
Hey @SaintDaveUK, just a quick suggestion/request. I see that you are still using the sun as an icon for religion, legacy from IR icons, as well as the icon for culture being a harp. Please can we change that? It does not fit the period and it's a bit immersion breaking. The hands praying looks fine from EU4. It just reminds me of IR and the classic world and makes the UI look unifinished like with placeholders still :( I would also change the symbol for culture. Maybe a book? It's much more representative of this game's period with the printing of books etc and the fact that the Church kept all the manuscripts and transcribed them and copied them. But yeah something separate from Imperator's icons.

Thanks!
 
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Also- Catholicism shouldn't have laws endorsing the hunting of witchcraft in the 1300's as their official position was 'witches aren't real'. Now that changed by the time of the Witch Trials, but I think there's nuance there cause I don't think it was an official position of the Pope, but it was certainly something Catholics were doing on a local level.
 
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That's because we are here applying a modifier to a default positive condition. The default is to be able to declare wars, while having the modifier (the Yes part) disallows those wars

This sounds like a classic flaw when handling Boolean in programming. For example:

if (canProceedWithThisRule)
// Do something if can

Or

if (!canProceedWithThisRule)
// Do something if can't

Are better than:

if (canNotProceedWithThisRule)
// Do something if can't

Or

if (!canNotProceedWithThisRule)
// Do something if can

Because they're more readable and don't require a cognitive effort to unwind the logical meaning of it. Similarly in your example in the UI, the logical meaning could be inverted:

Can declare wars (...): No
 
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Also- Catholicism shouldn't have laws endorsing the hunting of witchcraft in the 1300's as their official position was 'witches aren't real'. Now that changed by the time of the Witch Trials, but I think there's nuance there cause I don't think it was an official position of the Pope, but it was certainly something Catholics were doing on a local level.
Given that Summis desiderantes is one word off from Summis desiderantes affectibus, the papal bull which acknowledged the existence of witchcraft and approved its persecution, I’m guessing the starting law is “witches aren’t real”.
 
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Also- Catholicism shouldn't have laws endorsing the hunting of witchcraft in the 1300's as their official position was 'witches aren't real'. Now that changed by the time of the Witch Trials, but I think there's nuance there cause I don't think it was an official position of the Pope, but it was certainly something Catholics were doing on a local level.
If I remember correctly the church never officially supported which hunting even at the time of the which hunts it was more like individual priests and townspeople doing it as the church higherups looked on in horror
 
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I assume also there will be a decision to bring Orthodoxy, Miaphytism, Protestantism, or other Christian religions back into the fold of the Catholic Church?
 
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I assume also there will be a decision to bring Orthodoxy, Miaphytism, Protestantism, or other Christian religions back into the fold of the Catholic Church?

I would have thought the same as EU4? Through events or forced conversion through war. It would be cool if there were a few more way though.

I wonder how you enter and leave the Church. I guess it happens automatically once you join/leave it.
 
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I think this has been asked before and if I remember correctly the answer is no
Which is a damn shame, too, because every single one of those (well, maybe not Protestant but all the rest of them) had at least one schism in this 500-year timeframe where half broke off and were in communion with the Catholic church and the other half refused.

This was, like, an active thing popes would pursue throughout these five centuries.
 
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Hang on - am I crazy, or does the Catholic Church IO not have the "International Organization" subtitle? Can I finally get off my hill? Is my battle won? Or is it just not present in that particular screenshot?
 
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Latin Patriarchs in 1337

Rome
Jerusalem
Constantinople?
Antioch
Alexandria
Grado/Venice (It was already a position in Venice in this time but titled as Grado until 1451)
Aquileia (Merged with Venice in 1751)


There's also a couple of Patriarchs established by rome over the campaign
West Indies
Ethiopia
East Indies
Lisbon

Please represent them!!! o_Oo_O
 
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Given that Summis desiderantes is one word off from Summis desiderantes affectibus, the papal bull which acknowledged the existence of witchcraft and approved its persecution, I’m guessing the starting law is “witches aren’t real”.
And it looks like the starting law increases Humanist, which also fits “witches aren’t real”. Although that’s a slight oversimplification. It wasn’t a complete disbelief in witches and more:
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Is the ban on empires only a thing until the Age of Absolutism or of Revolutions? Think of the French Empire forming.
A true absolutistic Monarch does not care about restrictions by the Pope.
 
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