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Hello, and welcome to another Tinto Talks, the happy Wednesdays where we talk about Europa Universalis V!

Today, we will talk about another very impactful early-game situation: the Hundred Years’ War!

Historically, the war started when, in May 1337, Philip VI confiscated the Duchy of Aquitaine from Edward III of England, for the reason of breaching his obligations as a vassal, which was responded to by Edward III claiming the throne of France by the rights of his mother, Isabella of France - the situation was way more complicated than this, so let’s leave the historical events here.

In our game, a couple of months after the start of the game (so, in June 1337), this event will trigger to France:
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2. Robert de Artois.jpg

3. Robert de Artois.jpg

While this is the English point of view:
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5. Robert de Artois.jpg

6. Robert de Artois.jpg

If the historical options are followed (which is set to always happen to AI countries), this will happen:
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And it will also trigger the situation:
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The starting situation of the Hundred Years’ War, with the French and English subjects. You can notice the striped vassals, which mean that these are disloyal subjects.

As you see, each contender has its own set of objectives:
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French Victory Conditions.jpg

You can also see that there’s a Strength comparison:
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France Strength.jpg

Note: Numbers are a matter of balance, so please consider them WIP.

With the situation and claims in place, it’s just a matter of time before one of the sides declares war on the other:
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Something interesting is that each war is considered a ‘phase’ of the situation, so until it ends, any war between France and England will be considered ‘the 1st Phase’, ‘the 2nd Phase’, and so on:
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The Situation panel will also refresh when the war starts, so you can quickly check there everything related to it:
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Let’s talk now about the actions. There’s a common action that any of the sides can do, if the war has lasted for longer than 4 years, that requests the Pope to enforce a white peace among the contenders:
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The most important are those related to the French subjects; the objective for France will be to rein them in and have them contribute to the war effort in the conflict phases, while for England, it will be about convincing them to abandon the French king in the peace phases:
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The French subjects have their own gameplay and actions, related to their relationship with the French sovereign, and if they stay loyal to them, or not:
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So, at the end of the day, one of the contenders will probably be strong enough to defeat the other. In the case of France, it’s straightforward: No more independent English presence in the continent. In the case of England, beside pure conquest, the ‘Claim of Throne of France’ peace goal requests:
  • England (or their subjects) must control more than 15% of the ownable locations in the French Region
  • England must control the capital of France
The cost of this treaty also depends on 2 factors:
  • A base cost
  • A fluctuating cost based entirely on the relative strength between the two countries. So, a stronger England would inevitably make this peace treaty option somewhat cheaper.

And that’s it on the mechanical part of the situation; but there are also a bunch of events, both random and historical, that are dependent on it:
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And that’s all for today! We will come back on Friday, as we will talk in Tinto Flavour about France!

And also remember, you can wishlist Europa Universalis V now! Cheers!
 
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Can England gain the support of the disloyal French vassals somehow, e.g. Burgundy?
They can secure the neutrality of French subjects through the situation, to gain their support, they need regular diplomatic means.
 
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Can you say no to the Papal delegates and continue the war (for a cost, obviously), or will it end the current phase in a white peace no matter what?
Not currently, but I like the idea, we'll just take a look at it to see if we can add it.
 
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Can the French King acquire the English Crown as a variant outcome?
Not currently, we've worked with the assumption of the historical endings.
 
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Imagine being 2 years into a conflict and calling it "1st Phase of the Hundred Years War". One might accuse someone of a slight bout of pessimism.

How likely is it these conflicts actually last multiple generations / anywhere near hundred years? Let's say for uninfluenced AI playthroughs?
The last QA report we had regarding it (a Castilian playthrough, with minimum direct involvement), lasted for over a century. So it happens, although I can't tell you exactly how often that's the case - we've also had reports of it lasting only 20 years. As we usually say, this is a matter of balance, which changes very often.
 
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Absolutely fantastic, truly. Love the flavour, love the events, love the new tags in Britain. You guys absolutely smashed it out the park today. Brilliant
Thanks a lot! :)
 
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What will the button "Find New Allies" do?
Is that a way to involve other nations like the other neighboring nations to either side?
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1. It opens the 'Look for a new Ally' filter from the Diplomatic panel - so it's a 'shortcut', so you can stay involved in the situation, with all the different diplomatic actions there.
2. Allies will appear in the lower part of the panel.
 
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What exactly is the impact of that new "target" in CB ? Does it limit what you can take in the war ? If that is the case, I absolutely LOVE it, but would ask that the war can be "extended" with another CB should one country ask for it (so France CAN ask for middlesex even if they were the one being attacked, or the opposite if France attacked England)
The target in this case is simply the capital province of France. The CB itself also indeed limits which locations you can take, but that limit, as of right now, is simply the region of France.
 
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is there any content(like events) for Burgundy in this situation?
Will any of the French subjects get specific historical events?
For instance the Flemish burghers are on the pretty unavoidable path of circumventing the French aligned Count of Flanders due to the wool embargo by the English.
We didn't focus on French 'minor' countries, I'm sorry to say. It would have been super interesting (I personally love the plots of Charles of Navarre and Gaston Phoebus), but that will need to wait for the future.
 
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Seeing as we're getting a TT for France is there a chance we'll get some info on how revolutions work?
There will be a future Tinto Talks for the Revolution, yes!
 
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Does this include the Pale of Calais?
France can still win if England has fewer than 4 locations on the mainland.
 
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In the influencer videos from a few weeks back, England reportedly "never" won the 100 years war, not even close calls.
Has there been any rebalancing since then to see the potential result be more 50/50?
Yes. Now England is more likely to win the first phase/s, while France has more options if they are able to keep fighting, and rein in/integrate its subjects.
 
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Will we be allowed to keep Jeanne of Arc? Girl boss looks so strong. Besides, Queen Jeanne has a nice ring to it
I think that it's technically possible to marry the character with the ruler/heir, although getting the penalties for being a lowborn.
 
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How do you simulate the rise of Burgundy? Can you share any related events?
We are not simulating it at all. Since I know that this will be controversial, I'll explain a bit more in detail why we've made this decision.

The Duchy of Burgundy in EU5 (1337) is very different from the Duchy of Burgundy in EU4 (1444). These are the historical events that, in summary, led to it:
- The heir to the Duchy, Philip of Rouvres, grandson of Duke Odo (the ruler in 1337), died in 1361, with 17 years, and had no descendants.
- The Duchy was then inherited by King John II of France, who granted it to one of his sons, Philip 'the Bold', in 1363; the grant was confirmed by his brother, King Charles V, in 1364, after the death of their father.
- In the following decades, by marriage and conquest, the Dukes of Burgundy secured a number of Duchies, Counties, and principalities in Eastern France and the Low Countries, reaching their height under the rule of Duke Philip 'the Good' (ruler in 1444).
- The country entered a dynastic union with Austria after the death of Mary of Burgundy, with her grandson, Emperor Charles V, inheriting not only Austria and Burgundy, but also Castile and Aragon.

All of this is extremely convoluted to represent with scripted content, but it can actually happen through the mechanics of EU5 (although it's unlikely to happen, as there are tons of 'RNG rolls' for this to happen). Therefore, we decided not to create content about it, as it would need to be extremely railroaded, which goes against the dynamic content approach that we're following in this game.

Maybe in the future, we could have in the game some more new/different narrative tools to follow a different approach regarding this. But, in general terms, we've favoured gameplay-attached content over railroaded content, as a complement to the game mechanics, not a replacement for them.
 
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Pavia old pal I've been thinking, you didn't give me the release dates release dates release date, but you could give me the release date of the release date of the release date of the third DLC's second patch, how does that sound?
Dude, what's a DLC? We're talking here about the base game! :)
 
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Absolutely loved the TT, thanks for that situation, hopefully the whole "diplomacy" part of it can be made even bigger and more intricate, but I already find it quite impressive.
Thanks a lot!
 
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