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Dirkje, please don't do this. Don't throw your vote away like that. Vote AOK, the wolf. You do not want the wolves to win this, and if you are a villager you cannot stand aside.
 
I noticed you become a liberal when you are a wolf. You don't like debating facts and instead belittle and insult the other players. You did it in the baby game and every other time I can recall.

You may want to stop that behavior, as it is your biggest wolf-tell.

You think I only mock and insult other players as a wolf? What are you smoking? Thats how I always work. Always. But yea... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :rofl:

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:rofl::rofl:

At least you are amusing. That at least is something.
 
I like how my mother proves my point :)

Rysz said:
(and there is always the chance the village goes ballistic and does not lynch trespoe, randakar or aok, but someone other completely, because it can't make up its mind who to believe)
And what does she do? Vote adamus :)

Also, I've found this:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?480151-WW-Lite-CLXXVII-Dragon-Warrior-4-Chap.-3&p=11249659&highlight=announcement#post11249659: E_L outs AOK as wolf. AOK goes over the top, even faking PM's to prove he is the seer, when he does indeed turn out to be a wolf. Trespoe is right in his post just above here.

It's hard trying to find JL announcements, I search for "Announcement", but I feel I'm missing quite a lot of those...
 
I'll put Trespoe on par with AOK, you guys sort it out, I really really have to go. I wish i could come up with something better, but well.

VOTE TRESPOE

Look at the votecount, drxav. It's nowhere near close right now. Move to AOK, please.
 
I like how my mother proves my point :)


And what does she do? Vote adamus :)

Also, I've found this:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?480151-WW-Lite-CLXXVII-Dragon-Warrior-4-Chap.-3&p=11249659&highlight=announcement#post11249659: E_L outs AOK as wolf. AOK goes over the top, even faking PM's to prove he is the seer, when he does indeed turn out to be a wolf. Trespoe is right in his post just above here.

It's hard trying to find JL announcements, I search for "Announcement", but I feel I'm missing quite a lot of those...

I was outed first there. Find anything where I did something like this without a reason. I was not under any pressure at all in this game Rysz. None. I was outed there, so I went crazy. That is typical. If Randy had outed me and then I claimed this, then sure. But not like this.

Contrary to popular opinion, I can tell the truth.
 
I will also point out here that the wolves know they can win this by supporting AOK's cause. -everyone- voting Trespoe is suspect.

If the village lynches trespoe, there will be plenty to learn. The village will know that I am telling the truth and that Randy is lying. I will be dead, but my Seer will be alive. The village will have a wolf, and another likely wolf to be string up, and the Seer still alive. The village will also have invaluable information looking at who exactly tried to railroad the JL spokesman.

I can't believe you actually seem to be on the verge of pulling this off. AOK, this is about how the village gets -more- information. If you are lynched the village will have at least 2 people cleared - my other JL contacts - and one more, because Trespoe or me will still be alive. If you are not a wolf, the village can still lynch Trespoe.

If you are not lynched, then the village will have to fight to get you lynched tomorrow. No mistake.
 
I will also point out here that the wolves know they can win this by supporting AOK's cause. -everyone- voting Trespoe is suspect.

I can't believe you actually seem to be on the verge of pulling this off. AOK, this is about how the village gets -more- information.

Randy, I did a legitimate outing under no pressure at all. I told the truth. There is nothing crazy about this. Unfortunately when I am involved with anything, even something as simple as an outing, things get messy.

I thank the village for the votes. We will turn the corner on this night hopefully. If I am hunted, then know that my Seer is still out there. :)
 
Randy, I did a legitimate outing under no pressure at all. I told the truth. There is nothing crazy about this. Unfortunately when I am involved with anything, even something as simple as an outing, things get messy.

I thank the village for the votes. We will turn the corner on this night hopefully. If I am hunted, then know that my Seer is still out there. :)

Yes, there was pressure. Randakar told you he was a scanned villager, hence part of the JL. So you know there is an active JL consisting of more than only the seer. You know there was a good chance Randakar would ask the seer to scan you, so you figured you could do a fake outing in the scheme as I described above. It is the very early moment of the outing which makes your story odd. Both the "seer" asking you to do it early, and you actually posting it early. (while you apparently now have time enough). Both are unlikely, but the early outing was necessary to make sure you got it out before the real JL had a chance to out you.
 
Randy, I did a legitimate outing under no pressure at all. I told the truth. There is nothing crazy about this. Unfortunately when I am involved with anything, even something as simple as an outing, things get messy.

Bull. You knew you were going to be scanned. That is why the outing happened so early.

I thank the village for the votes. We will turn the corner on this night hopefully. If I am hunted, then know that my Seer is still out there. :)

Folks, if you let him get away with this the village is doomed. Don't let AOK fool you.
 
Dirkje, please don't do this. Don't throw your vote away like that. Vote AOK, the wolf. You do not want the wolves to win this, and if you are a villager you cannot stand aside.

sorry, randy, yes, i can stand aside. you can't force me in to make a decision if i am not sure who is lying and who is thruthfull, or who is thruthfull but only be played by others

but I will keep on reading, and if I am sure (well totally sure is impossible offcourse) i can still chance my vote.
 
Yes, there was pressure.

If the belief that I was going to be scanned was enough, then I would blow myself up every game. That is simply not enough to justify suicide. All prior attempts to try anything relating to being a fake JL member were after official outings or getting some confirmation from someone.

But I have learned something. I will never agree to do an outing unless I have to. Its a rough crowd these days. :(
 
Ha! Here!

WW LXXXV: The War to End all Wars:
Syber_sid outs Slinky.
Slinky gets lynched, and is a villager.
the next day Syber_sid tells it was Hax who mislead him.
At the end of the day Hax and syber_sid are almost tied, but okyriosy leaderlynches the villager Hax, while syber_sid the lover gets lynched.

So if even with those two players the village still also tries to lynch not the spokesperson, but the contact, who is to say that AOK wouldn't be able to do that and "surely" get lynched if he did a fake outing?
 
Ha! Here!

So if even with those two players the village still also tries to lynch not the spokesperson, but the contact, who is to say that AOK wouldn't be able to do that and "surely" get lynched if he did a fake outing?

You are honestly trying to compare me to Syber Sid. Wait. *Vomits* Please excuse me while I go shoot myself.

But before I do, that argument is again ridiculous. There are no leaders in Lite Rysz. The wolf would have to convince everyone, or risk the whole pack by voting in lockstep. Such a situation could actually be good for the village if you can catch them working together.

You are grasping at straws. I was contacted by the Seer, am scanned, and tres is a wolf. Thats all there is to it. And you are going to have some explaining to do when tres is lynched a wolf.
 
sorry, randy, yes, i can stand aside. you can't force me in to make a decision if i am not sure who is lying and who is thruthfull, or who is thruthfull but only be played by others

I can't force you, but I can ask you to consider this carefully. If you are a villager, then your vote will matter. The wolves will know who to vote. They want to win. So they get to decide who lives, and who dies. By standing aside you're just going to let them.

but I will keep on reading, and if I am sure (well totally sure is impossible offcourse) i can still chance my vote.

Think. Have I lied to you? In person? Can I fool you that easily? Remember, I am not that great a liar in person. You know this. You have talked to me. You, of all people, should know how to judge this.
 
Think. Have I lied to you? In person? Can I fool you that easily? Remember, I am not that great a liar in person. You know this. You have talked to me. You, of all people, should know how to judge this.

So you cannot lie in person and thus are trying again on the forums. Interesting.
 
So you cannot lie in person and thus are trying again on the forums. Interesting.

Stop trying to twist my words. If you have a shred of a villager in there, you would have doubts. Instead you are playing games with me.
 
Stop trying to twist my words. If you have a shred of a villager in there, you would have doubts. Instead you are playing games with me.

I know you are lying because I am not a wolf. I am sure of that. If you are honestly a villager, then you need to act before the deadline as you have been had. If you have someone you trust, then tell that person your supposed JL contact as he is a fraud and they might kill you if they know tres is going down.

I cannot say anything more. I am not a wolf. I believe tres is.
 
You are honestly trying to compare me to Syber Sid. Wait. *Vomits* Please excuse me while I go shoot myself.

But before I do, that argument is again ridiculous. There are no leaders in Lite Rysz. The wolf would have to convince everyone, or risk the whole pack by voting in lockstep. Such a situation could actually be good for the village if you can catch them working together.

You are grasping at straws. I was contacted by the Seer, am scanned, and tres is a wolf. Thats all there is to it. And you are going to have some explaining to do when tres is lynched a wolf.

I meant that even if syber_sid can get half the village vote not him, but his contact, then you, who are umptheenth times better at getting players to follow your influence than syber_sid, would surely manage to pull it of.
Nor is the leaders even relevant. The leader just sealed a very close tie (9 for sid, 8 for hax). EIGHT villagers were convinced by sid that Hax should be lynched. Think of how many you can convince! You don't even need your wolf pack. You could even have some wolves voting you instead! (and yes, you do. I've been in a wofl pack with you before).

And regarding that "explaining". First you say I'm making my arguments so that I'm covering my tracks, now you almost ask me to cover my tracks, since I will have some explaining to do if tres is shown as a wolf. That's contradictionary, and shows that you are also grasping at straws to try and convince me. Also I'm merely a villager. My explaining in that case would be that I made the wrong call, and if the village wants to lynch me for that, they should. As long as they remember the real suspects, and most importantly: parity.
 
I meant that even if syber_sid can get half the village vote not him, but his contact, then you, who are umptheenth times better at getting players to follow your influence than syber_sid, would surely manage to pull it of.
Nor is the leaders even relevant. The leader just sealed a very close tie (9 for sid, 8 for hax). EIGHT villagers were convinced by sid that Hax should be lynched. Think of how many you can convince! You don't even need your wolf pack. You could even have some wolves voting you instead! (and yes, you do. I've been in a wofl pack with you before).

And regarding that "explaining". First you say I'm making my arguments so that I'm covering my tracks, now you almost ask me to cover my tracks, since I will have some explaining to do if tres is shown as a wolf. That's contradictionary, and shows that you are also grasping at straws to try and convince me. Also I'm merely a villager. My explaining in that case would be that I made the wrong call, and if the village wants to lynch me for that, they should. As long as they remember the real suspects, and most importantly: parity.

Even AOK is not getting out of this one. Do you want me to make it clear? LYNCH AOK IF TRESPOE IS NOT A WOLF! That better? I am dead if trespoe is not a wolf. None of those who gave me a chance will give me another.

And of course I am grasping at straws trying to convince you. You are trying to kill me, the JL spokesman, when we have the name of a wolf. What do you want me to do?
 
I know you are lying because I am not a wolf. I am sure of that. If you are honestly a villager, then you need to act before the deadline. If you have someone you trust, then tell that person your supposed JL contact as he is a fraud.

Bull. You can't -know- I am lying if you are a villager, because you as a villager only have a contact telling you that Trespoe is a wolf, no actual verification. The only way for you to be certain about anything is if you are a wolf.

Besides, everything I have said so far was true. Me contacting you. Reis. Rysz. Everything.
The only bit that can't be verified until the deadline is your status as a wolf. Which is also true.