snoop, AOK, you must be punished. I don't really care whether you are werewolves or not. You should die. For following EURO, not once, but twice. Even after you saw what happened the first time you did so.
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Who do you want to go after? Syber? Kiwi? drxav?
I've been wrong about everyone else so far, maybe that means you are a varulv.
Well, I hope you are a wolf then Tam. Otherwise you are fucked.
And the "punish mistakes" strategy never works. It almost always helps the wolves. If you punish villagers for trying, you end up with a castrated, useless bunch of sheep. Initiative is a good thing. It may go wrong in some games, but overall it is a major positive. And Tam, don't you even try to tell me otherwise. You do not have the experience on which to make such a claim:
You're as varulv as each other.
Edit: AOK, I am a villager.
You say you've been "trying". You haven't. You don't seem to have made any real analysis, you've joined in with EURO with ridiculous switches five minutes from deadline, you've helped the wolves far more than the village. You should have been lynched days ago. Now we've got into this situation with either two wolves, two nutcases or two deliberate saboteurs and they have to be killed. There's no other way.
I've caught a wolf. You ignored my repeated rantings on trying to lynch EURO and of snoop had got his way we'd have a random dead villager on our hands due to the insane switches you three clowns make. Don't try to tell me you're trying to help the village. You aren't.
Edit: AOK, I am a villager.
You say you've been "trying". You haven't. You don't seem to have made any real analysis, you've joined in with EURO with ridiculous switches five minutes from deadline, you've helped the wolves far more than the village. You should have been lynched days ago. Now we've got into this situation with either two wolves, two nutcases or two deliberate saboteurs and they have to be killed. There's no other way.
I've caught a wolf. You ignored my repeated rantings on trying to lynch EURO and of snoop had got his way we'd have a random dead villager on our hands due to the insane switches you three clowns make. Don't try to tell me you're trying to help the village. You aren't.
There is no real leading suspect. Syber, Enk, and drxav are all good lynches. If tam or Kiwi are a wolf, then they set themselves up nicely and there is nothing we can do.
I will go with Enk. And I am probably wrong, again, but nothing I can do:
VOTE ENK
You are disastrously wrong. You should go after yourselves or one another. Give it up.
If you are not a wolf tam, I want you to put the above quote in your sig when this is over so that you can remember what happened here.
Personally, I want to be lynched in a 3-way tie with enkh and AOK. That way we don't need to suffer living to parity, and maybe we'll have finally gotten a wolf.
Unvote AOK. Vote enkh.
Unvote AOK. Vote enkh.
I have a question for you. Are you illiterate? Or is the only analysis you can understand the BIG RED LETTERS type? Or did you just not bother to read the exchanges between Kiwi and I? Or my posts from yesterday pointing out important things from the thread and going over the key pieces of evidence for each living player?
And the next dumb fuck that accuses me of purposeful sabotage is going to the top of my kill list. Ahead of EURO.
Yes there is. About half a dozen games worth. Do you want to read them? Sometimes what I do does not work, more often than not, it works very well, and I have the record to prove it. I do not pull shit out of thin air. I play the odds. Its not purposeful sabatoge. Its statistics. Werewolf is like poker. You can do the right things and still get blown up on the river, or in this case outplayed.
Semi-official Vote Count
21 hours and 11 minutes to deadline
21 hours and 11 minutes to deadline
AOK - 2 - tamius, drxav,
enkhuush - 2 - AOK, snoopdogg,
We can still do this. But that result didn't help.
If AOK is a wolf he's hitting all the right emotional notes for an under pressure villager, and it's a bravura performance. I'm not sure what to make of it yet. But I am sure I'll need to take another look through the thread now Xeno is clear, see if we missed something in the continued focus on AOK/Xeno.
If AOK is a wolf he's hitting all the right emotional notes for an under pressure villager, and it's a bravura performance. I'm not sure what to make of it yet. But I am sure I'll need to take another look through the thread now Xeno is clear, see if we missed something in the continued focus on AOK/Xeno.
Thank you Najs. Your encouragement is always welcome.
Now, let us move forward villagers.
Edit: Yes, Kiwi, we obviously missed something. EURO let himself be lynched. Someone from his pack supported his lynching, and that makes it possible that even both of them voted for him. The question is just how far did EURO let the sellout go.
I still think Enk is the best bet. But given my rather disastrous performance thus far, we need to tread carefully.
We are down to 3-4. We have to kill a wolf and avoid a tie. A tie even getting a wolf with it will still destroy the village. That means the only way for us to survive is to have all four villagers voting on the same person.
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Village fails again! You should have voted AOK, then we wouldn't have dilemma what if he is really villager. AOK masterful play. Bravo! What Xeno? What Xeno and Enk pack? That was plain ridiculous.
Vote AOK.
Vote AOK.
It seems that many of the new players are not familiar with me. So I will help those out that want to see the truth. Its right here in these pages of werewolf history.
If anyone is interested what AOKwulf actually looks like in a game either without the Seer or in a game where the Seer dies early, I suggest looking at the historical record:
Here is AOKwulf in the flesh:
WW XXXVI
WWL XLV
WWL LXXIII
WWL CLXIX
You will notice something about those four games. I won them all as a wolf. And in each the Seer died early or never existed in the first place. And finally, I sold out a packmate and looked innocent in all four. That's how I work as a wolf folks. I do not, however, get to end of a game wherein I might as well stamp "WOLF" on my forehead. I just don't work that way people. The historical record is clear.
In addition, for those who think I am not even trying and that my methods are sabotage, well, that's simply not true. Again, look at the historical record. Here are instances wherein I have been successful as a villager pursuing my methods:
WWL XIV
WWL XXVIII
WWL XXXIV
WWL XXXIX
WWL LXIV
That last one was a confused mess, and LLY threw away a brilliantly played game, but my methods pulled us back from the brink none the less. There are more, but I think those are sufficient to prove my point.
So, I know I am probably gonna be lynched. If you are going to kill me though, then at least learn from your mistake. And please do me the courtesy of not accusing me of purposeful sabotage in the future. I don't just make this stuff up. It did not work out here obviously, and has failed in similarly spectacular ways previously (I once got the Seer lynched on day 1), but overall I have been successful playing the odds in this manor more often than not.
And that concludes our Werewolf History Lecture.
If anyone is interested what AOKwulf actually looks like in a game either without the Seer or in a game where the Seer dies early, I suggest looking at the historical record:
Here is AOKwulf in the flesh:
WW XXXVI
WWL XLV
WWL LXXIII
WWL CLXIX
You will notice something about those four games. I won them all as a wolf. And in each the Seer died early or never existed in the first place. And finally, I sold out a packmate and looked innocent in all four. That's how I work as a wolf folks. I do not, however, get to end of a game wherein I might as well stamp "WOLF" on my forehead. I just don't work that way people. The historical record is clear.
In addition, for those who think I am not even trying and that my methods are sabotage, well, that's simply not true. Again, look at the historical record. Here are instances wherein I have been successful as a villager pursuing my methods:
WWL XIV
WWL XXVIII
WWL XXXIV
WWL XXXIX
WWL LXIV
That last one was a confused mess, and LLY threw away a brilliantly played game, but my methods pulled us back from the brink none the less. There are more, but I think those are sufficient to prove my point.
So, I know I am probably gonna be lynched. If you are going to kill me though, then at least learn from your mistake. And please do me the courtesy of not accusing me of purposeful sabotage in the future. I don't just make this stuff up. It did not work out here obviously, and has failed in similarly spectacular ways previously (I once got the Seer lynched on day 1), but overall I have been successful playing the odds in this manor more often than not.
And that concludes our Werewolf History Lecture.
I have to say whoever the wolves are, they have me beaten. If it's not AOK, I don't have any idea what a pack of three could look like out of the remaining players. They'd have done too good a job of hiding it, and have probably had all the luck given only one was caught. If it is AOK, he succeeded in persuading me, and getting us close enough to being wiped out that it didn't matter if we caught him. And yet he still rings true as being a villager.
Well played wolves, whoever you are. We'll see if we can pull this one off the brink yet, though.
Well played wolves, whoever you are. We'll see if we can pull this one off the brink yet, though.
As for my vote, if it's the village's will I'll change to AOK. We've got no time for half measures, so we either go for it or we don't. But my instincts are telling me to trust him, moreso than snoopdogg or enkhuush or anyone really. His story is the most complete, the narrative the most coherent. So I'll
Vote enkhuush
While I wait to see what Syber_sid thinks. Again, we can't risk ties, and all I've got to trust AOk is a gut feeling. He may be a wolf, he may not be. I'll switch to him if that is what is needed to avoid a tie, because even if we get one wolf with it that would still be game over for us.
Vote enkhuush
While I wait to see what Syber_sid thinks. Again, we can't risk ties, and all I've got to trust AOk is a gut feeling. He may be a wolf, he may not be. I'll switch to him if that is what is needed to avoid a tie, because even if we get one wolf with it that would still be game over for us.