March of the Eagles

[StephenT]

Sounds cool... but why start in 1805?

There are many, many strategic board wargames about the Napoleonic Wars. Every single one of them that I'm aware of starts in 1805.

Empires in Arms by ADG, War and Peace by SPI, Age of Napoleon from Mayfair, Napoleonic Wars by GMT, La Guerre de l'Empereur by OSG - all of them start in 1805.

The thing is. most game players want a game that's focussed on the wars. Having a few years of messing around at peace introducing the Code Napoléon and setting up the Légion d'Honneur isn't very interesting to the majority. So most strategic games about Napoleon start when the Napoleonic Wars began, at the beginning of 1805.

 

[DarthJF]

Sounds really interesting - but please don't release with any Steam association.

So far every game has had a Steam free version available on Gamersgate. I don't see any reason why they would change that now.

 

[Johan]

So far every game has had a Steam free version available on Gamersgate. I don't see any reason why they would change that now.

We'll see how it looks like in January, but GG is at about 6-7% of our market at the moment.

 

[kunadam]

That does not say much about Steam. It could be - and I fervently hope - that steam is <1% of your market, and thus the rest is normal hard copy distribution.

Steam is a vile thing. The main selling point of PI games - for me - were always been their DMR free nature.

Not to mention that GG has much better features than Steam.

 

[kunadam]

What do you mean by no steam association? Steam is what gives them there player base, not to mention with no boxed versions and little publicity this would cut there sales by huge margins, plus Most people I know on steam Only by digital games through steam, as while there service can be dilatory it is probably the easiest to use and the safest.

Easy and safe? Are we speaking about the same thing? Steam? DRM? Constant online mode? Strange transfer agency?

You might mistake it with Gamers Gate. That is safe and easy. Does not have DRM, and can be played offline.

 

[s1234567890m]

That does not say much about Steam. It could be - and I fervently hope - that steam is <1% of your market, and thus the rest is normal hard copy distribution.

Steam is a vile thing. The main selling point of PI games - for me - were always been their DMR free nature.

Not to mention that GG has much better features than Steam.

Try 80+
the CEO has gone and said there sales are mostly digital (80?)

 

[Captain Gars]

Try 80+
the CEO has gone and said there sales are mostly digital (80?)

Probably closer to 90%.

 

[Captain Gars]

Easy and safe? Are we speaking about the same thing? Steam? DRM? Constant online mode? Strange transfer agency?

You might mistake it with Gamers Gate. That is safe and easy. Does not have DRM, and can be played offline.

None of our games require you to be online while playing.

 

[tonkatoy5]

Easy and safe? Are we speaking about the same thing? Steam? DRM? Constant online mode? Strange transfer agency?

You might mistake it with Gamers Gate. That is safe and easy. Does not have DRM, and can be played offline.

Sorry you obviously don't know about steam as they are not online only if you have downloaded the game you simply have to go into the steamsapps folder and find the application, and strict DRM is why indie developers use steam as if they didn't they could never afford to protect their games, in fact Steam is quite easy to use as long as you have the intelligence required to operate it, and no I am not a steam fan boy as I do believe Paradox should crack down on the fact they almost always release their DLC after the fact.

I've never used Gamers Gate but I use to use Direct2Drive and we all know how that ended.

 

[Taylor]

There are many, many strategic board wargames about the Napoleonic Wars. Every single one of them that I'm aware of starts in 1805.

Empires in Arms by ADG, War and Peace by SPI, Age of Napoleon from Mayfair, Napoleonic Wars by GMT, La Guerre de l'Empereur by OSG - all of them start in 1805.

The thing is. most game players want a game that's focussed on the wars. Having a few years of messing around at peace introducing the Code Napoléon and setting up the Légion d'Honneur isn't very interesting to the majority. So most strategic games about Napoleon start when the Napoleonic Wars began, at the beginning of 1805.

Hm, I did not know that of the board games.

But note that the HoI's also start before the war, not in it.

 

[unmerged(1823)]

That does not say much about Steam. It could be - and I fervently hope - that steam is <1% of your market, and thus the rest is normal hard copy distribution.

Steam is a vile thing. The main selling point of PI games - for me - were always been their DMR free nature.

Not to mention that GG has much better features than Steam.

Nobody buys games in boxes anymore, and pretty much everyone buys them on Steam.

 

[berto]

There are many, many strategic board wargames about the Napoleonic Wars. Every single one of them that I'm aware of starts in 1805.

Empires in Arms by ADG, War and Peace by SPI, Age of Napoleon from Mayfair, Napoleonic Wars by GMT, La Guerre de l'Empereur by OSG - all of them start in 1805.

The thing is. most game players want a game that's focussed on the wars. Having a few years of messing around at peace introducing the Code Napoléon and setting up the Légion d'Honneur isn't very interesting to the majority. So most strategic games about Napoleon start when the Napoleonic Wars began, at the beginning of 1805.

So March of the Eagles is supposed to ignore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_First_Coalition (1792–1797)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Second_Coalition (1798–1802)

just because prior games have set the (arguable) precedent to start in 1805?

There's really interesting gaming, and warring, in those earlier time periods and Coalition Wars.

 

[berto]

The Greenhill Napoleonic Wars Data Book lists over 2000 major engagements, battles and siege, although that includes the whole Revolutionary Wars (but not closely related conflicts like the Finnish War).

Bingo!

We'll just have to trust PI to model battles and lesser combats "realistically" and "plausibly".

 

[berto]

We'll see how it looks like in January, but GG is at about 6-7% of our market at the moment.

Please keep the GG option. Most of my games I purchase at GamersGate. Works for me.

 

[Walshicus]

Why do you hate my wallet, Paradox?

 

[Taylor]

Why do you hate my wallet, Paradox?

They don't hate it, they love your wallet ... especially what's in it

 

[SAS]

I have no problem buying digital, but I prefer to buy from Gamersgate over buying from Steam. Funny thing is if the game "requires" Steam to play and it is sold at Gamersgate too I buy from Gamersgate then activate it on Steam. My little way of being the consumer and not giving Valve money. Petty but I like it. Of course a Steam only release would not stop me from buying it.

 

[unmerged(290175)]

...Steam is quite easy to use as long as you have the intelligence required to operate it...

My issue isn't with ease of use and I've managed to 'have the intelligence' to install and play via Steam in the past. However, I'm opposed in principle to buying a game that's for my own personal use that - thanks to Steam - I have to be on-line to install, Steam dictates which drive I install it to and ultimately prevents me selling the game on should I ever choose to do so.
Maybe I'm a stick in the mud, but I've been strategy gaming for a long time and I know of no other gaming platform that treats it's users in such a manner.

 

[Bodhisattvas]

Nobody buys games in boxes anymore, and pretty much everyone buys them on Steam.

While I'm no steam-hater per se, I hope you keep selling your games steam-free at GG. Most of my digital games are bought there. I only use steam when I can't avoid it
However, I'm surprised that the sales on GG are so low. Would have guessed something about 50%.

 

[postm00v]

and ultimately prevents me selling the game on should I ever choose to do so.

There's a new law in Europe that forbids digital services (like Steam) to disallow people from re-selling digital software. There hasn't been an official response from Steam yet, but rumors are they are looking into the possibility of allowing games that have been bought and played to be traded/sold.

EDIT : Found a link with more information http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2783990