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As you know, we are quickly approaching the end of times, as a cycle of the Mayan calendar is about to end on December 21. Not to be outdone by the Mayans, we are doing our part to hasten the coming apocalypse by releasing a totally unhistorical DLC for Crusader Kings II called Sunset Invasion. The forum response to this minor and completely optional DLC was interesting to say the least. We expected a mixed response, but certainly not the degree of passion we've been witnessing.

The DLC, for those of you who don't know, features an invasion of Europe by an earlier and far more powerful Aztec civilization than we know from history, at some point after 1250. Arriving on vessels suspiciously similar to Norse long ships, Aztec explorers first make contact with a random coastal lord, offering obsidian beads and other exotic trinkets in exchange for land. Soon after, a huge invasion fleet arrives, disgorging tens of thousands of disciplined warriors. After their initial conquests, a reinforcement fleet might arrive, similar to how the Mongol invasions work. The Aztecs are pagans worshiping terrible and blood-thirsty gods, scaring the Muslims and Christians of Europe and North Africa witless with their mass sacrifices of live victims from among the subjugated peoples.

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In addition to the main events, Sunset Invasion features a load of flavor events, for example when the invaders conquer key cities, when they spread a new disease or when there is news from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. The Aztecs have unique portraits, units, and on-map shields. The typical cycle has them conquering a large swathe of land until they run out of steam and the inevitable Crusades and Jihads start to reverse the tide. Meanwhile, the Aztec Cuauhxicalli (altar stone bowls) will be overflowing with the hearts of good Christians and Muslims...

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So why did we decide to make this DLC in the first place? Well, the kernel of the idea goes way back to the original Crusader Kings and the Mongol invasion events. Playing on or near the eastern edge of the map is dangerous; almost suicidal if you are not strong enough by the 13th century. So, we've frequently joked about having a similar but rare event on the western side of the map, an invasion by something out of the Atlantic ocean to offset the imbalance a little bit; Atlanteans, Deep Ones, Vinlanders... or Aztecs. It's obviously a pretty crazy proposition and we never expected to put it into the game, but then someone mentioned a similar idea on the forum and the powers that be decided to greenlight it for a laugh.

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Now, let me offer you a rare insight into the psyche of the average Paradox dev (especially the veterans among us): we all love history and we love making historical games, but when you've spent a decade of your life delving into such crucial issues as getting the regnal numbers right for the Dukes of Aquitaine, ensuring that Eustace of Boulogne has his historical mustache, that the Pops of Chur have the right cultural and religious composition and that Operation Weserübung always happens roughly when it should, some of us yearn to do something wacky just once in a while. That's why Saint Andrew is Scottish in CKII, why there is a mission for Aragon to seize the throne of Gondar in EU3... and why we did Sunset Invasion. Not to worry though, we are not going to abandon our historical games or the attention to detail that makes them unique. That is why Sunset Invasion is optional. Just don't buy it if you don't like it.

Let me end with some points to assuage the fears of the historicity hardliners and squash some false rumors:
  • Sunset Invasion is a minor tongue-in-cheek DLC. We do not count it as a main expansion.
  • We have never said how many major DLC/expansions we will do. In fact, we do not know - it's mostly up to you.
  • The making of this DLC did not affect our regular release schedule at all. Most of the work was outsourced, done on our spare time or slotted in when someone had a bit of extra time.
  • Paradox Development Studio is not about to change course for its historical games.

Until next time, when I'll probably talk about our next major DLC. :)
 
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Man, that "thuderstick" one is totally awesome:laugh:

BTW, why were consort titles removed? And will you do away the attrition-free stacks?:(
 
Were people seriously offended or angry about a small, optional DLC because it's ahistorical? Jeez!

I for one would like to welcome our new Aztec overlords and their bloodthirsty gods!

Oh, and on a historical note, does anyone know what (or even weather) there was a name for the Americas in the native tongues as it's hard to say they come from the Americas centuries before Amerigo Vespucci stuck his name to it?

I do not know specifically, but I would expect them to be similar to older European peoples' names for their lands; or like Europe/Asia. I doubt they had a name for what we call 'The Americas' is what I am saying, because they never managed to know the entire existence of it. How aware were the Aztecs of the Incas, for instance? Mesoamerican civilisations seems to be rather confined to their location.
 
Is it possible to breed with the aztecs to produce aztec children, or will they be ineligible for marriage?
 
Am defiantly gonna bye it! And i hope closed minded people will not scare of Paraodx Dev. to stop making this alternative history dlcs, hope next one will come out for HoI3!
 
Good book, if not 100% convincing, though I'm not sure what our sales division in NYC need it for. ;)

Cheaper shipping. Ask them to bring the copy over during the next meeting you guys have.
 
Nice to see a DD
If questions are still being answered, how much of a delay is there between them arriving and the sacrifice events that mention them having pyramids? as itd be weird if it happened before they could have built any.
Also why'd you go with syphilis and not something made up? As syphilis is already in the game and has specific requirements for being spread that make it not so plausible as a great plague thatd hit everyone. Also is it incurable? As an incurable plague would be a new thing and great for a game.
But more importantly modding questions

Will playable=yes in the religions txt be able to make them playable as works with mongols? althought not from any start date obviously
And is all graphic content [CoA Shield shape on map etc] available for use in mods by modders or is it hard-coded to the 'aztec' religion specifically?
 
A Deep Ones DLC would have been far better. I still think that this DLC has little to no sense.

And no, I don't hate alternative history. I love it. When it's coherent and believable.
 
am i seeing a new muslim portrait?

It's probably the Byzantium portrait pack we've been waiting for (and will be waiting for until next year). It was said it was going to cover cultures around the Mediterranean... or it's just something new. Time will tell.
 
I think it might be a bit of a language barrier more than an apology. I found it humble and explaining rather than apologising for their decision. I don't mind Paradox explaining their decision, but Doomdark probably took steps to avoid gloating. But I do not believe he - or indeed anyone else at Paradox (except perhaps podcat) - is sorry.

of course we are not sorry or we wouldnt make the DLC :D also, me in particular love this kind of funny imaginative stuff (although dont worry, no Aztecs on the horizon in HoI3... unless you want it of course :D)

A Deep Ones DLC would have been far better.

Victoria II is the game with all the Lovecraft references though ;)
 
Will this DLC be compatible with the planned CK2->EU4 converter?
 
I think I'll probably buy it... I've never played a game more than 150 yrs so by the time the Aztecs invade, I'm sure I'll be bored enough to want something whacky to spice things up.

(still want Greek portraits though!!)
 
I have to admit, when I first heard the announcement for Sunset Invasion, my gut reaction was outrage.

But the more I thought about it, and the more I read, the more intrigued I got. While completely unhistorical, this is just plausible enough... and the idea of historical Christians and Muslims clashing with something so foreign, pagan, and bloodthirsty... this is actually a scenario I'm really, really looking forward to.