I thought that BETAs are for people to test the game and give their suggestions and tell about all bugs and other problems, not to let people play the game quicker...If you know that don't think that other people are idiots cos that just want to play the game while it's incomplete and rate it based on that, cos they don't (I don't anyway),if you don't know that...Well, sad. Also, I will get this game if it's gonna be fun, not if it will have a pre order bonus. If there would not be any pre order bonus I would probably wait for some reviews and if they were good then I would get it. But if you don't like getting more stuff as a free BONUS because you thrust that the game will actually be good and you can pay your money for something that might quite well be a one huge fail... Again, a bit strange to me... But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "You can't have your opinion and I'm the only one who can have one cos it's the only right one and everyone have to agree with me cos if he don't he is stupid". I just can't quite understand your thinking process ( "This kind of thinking is ruining the game market, expecting pre-order bonuses "..." "Because one game does it, doesn't mean its a requirement." What's wrong with that? You rather want to just some game have toes?) please explain it better and think everything through.
You obviously haven't read the whole thread, people asking for BETA access, like said, its not something that can simply just happen. BETA access is for stress testing, bug finding etc. Why should anybody be asking or expecting it? Why would bug finding influence you in buying a game? People do use BETAs for quick access, for a game preview. I've played in a lot of game BETAs where people have been expecting it to be perfect and raged on forums.
I do like free stuff, I just don't expect free stuff, nor demand it.
Also, so what, you're saying, I'm not allowed to be critical of other people's opinions? So everyone else is allowed an opinion but me? If people don't agree with me I'm allowed to think they're stupid, I am allowed to have this opinion, and be critical of others. I don't get how you can say I have to accept what other people are saying, yet you can't accept what I'm saying? :s
I'd rather games do what they want to, pre-order bonuses don't influence me in buying a game, they only help me decide when I want to buy the game.
I'd buy dungeonland without any pre-order bonuses.
Some games have toes? Please explain that better and think everything slowly through.
To sum up, as I was saying, they need to take as long as it takes, even if it was delayed a month, it doesn't really matter, I'm not losing anything.
I do like free stuff, but I'm not going to post on their forums, facebook or twitter asking for it.
People need to be more grateful for what they have got/getting, rather than what they want.