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Post WWII german ships?How?
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I have one issue i'd like to check with you.
How would you considerate in game terms hybrid carrier/battleships like the converted Ise battleship? Would you consider them as carriers? Or would you consider them as simple BBs? Or maybe you would consider them as as light carriers?
Personally i think it would depend on the ship, if the landind strip of that ship covers more than half of the ship and is hosting a somewhat acceptable number of airplanes to be considered a CAG, then i would consider she as a carrier, and if the number of airplanes she's hosting is not that high, i simply would consider her as a CVL.
In the other hand, if the landing strip is not that big, and she's not hosting many airplanes (like the case of the Ise BB), i would consider she as a pure BB because in this case the role aircrafts played would be secondary, IE, unlike in the previous case, the CAG would not be the main weapon of the ship.
How would you considerate in game terms hybrid carrier/battleships like the converted Ise battleship? Would you consider them as carriers? Or would you consider them as simple BBs? Or maybe you would consider them as as light carriers?
Personally i think it would depend on the ship, if the landind strip of that ship covers more than half of the ship and is hosting a somewhat acceptable number of airplanes to be considered a CAG, then i would consider she as a carrier, and if the number of airplanes she's hosting is not that high, i simply would consider her as a CVL.
In the other hand, if the landing strip is not that big, and she's not hosting many airplanes (like the case of the Ise BB), i would consider she as a pure BB because in this case the role aircrafts played would be secondary, IE, unlike in the previous case, the CAG would not be the main weapon of the ship.
Like a teacher of my university used to say: "an ureasoned opinon is an invalid one"
:O Well,Because a Hibrid battleship don't is designed to support 30,40 airplanes like a Carrier,the airplanes only support the ship,because this I believe in them only as an BB.
Well, it's basically what i said in my previous post. If the ship can host a somewhat acceptable number of planes to be considered as a cag, and if it's their main weapon, then it's undoubtedly a CV. If not. It's a BB.
The game doesn't really model that type of ship accurately. I think you'd have to create a new unit for it or modify the game to allow BBs to mount a light CAG brigade. Don't forget that the USS Lexington class originally mounted 8" guns also.
I agree. Unless he creates a new unit from scratch. And now that I think of it better, my earlier suggestion of attaching a light CAG will greatly overpower it.
Maybe you could modify a CVL and give it half the surface attack of a corresponding BB.
Creating a new unit from scratch would be the ideal work out, unfortunately, this is just a graphic mod, i'm not adding any new unit.
That said, i still think that it depends on the ship itself. For instance, i would also consider the modified Ise as a battleship, she could barely hold 10 aircrafts at her peak. But, in the case of, let's say the Yamato's 111 and 797 variants i think that they could easily host 30-40 or even 45 airplanes due to the size of the ship.
Now, if we compare the number of airplanes carried by, HMS Unicorn (approximately 33) or HMS Colossus (48 when she was under French command in the post war), USS Independence (around 30) or even the more advanced USS Saipan (50), i think that we can safely assert that these hybrid fits much better into the CVL category than in CV category.
Now, considering the circumstances and the historical facts of the WW2, i honestly think that the main weapon of those hybrid ships would be their CAG and their big guns would be used as a secondary weapon for obvious reasons.
Furthermore, these guns may be represented in the ship's own value when she has a cag attached. IE, she may has not 50 airplanes like a normal CVL 1944 would have, but, having those guns compensates for the lack of those... 20 or 25 airplanes.
And finally, some carriers of the ww2 had also conventional armament, not as effective and powerful as the main guns of a battleship, true, and, at their best they were guns more suitable for a destroyer sized ship, ok, and their purpose was merely defensive, yes, but they were there after all.
That said, i still think that it depends on the ship itself. For instance, i would also consider the modified Ise as a battleship, she could barely hold 10 aircrafts at her peak. But, in the case of, let's say the Yamato's 111 and 797 variants i think that they could easily host 30-40 or even 45 airplanes due to the size of the ship.
Now, if we compare the number of airplanes carried by, HMS Unicorn (approximately 33) or HMS Colossus (48 when she was under French command in the post war), USS Independence (around 30) or even the more advanced USS Saipan (50), i think that we can safely assert that these hybrid fits much better into the CVL category than in CV category.
Now, considering the circumstances and the historical facts of the WW2, i honestly think that the main weapon of those hybrid ships would be their CAG and their big guns would be used as a secondary weapon for obvious reasons.
Furthermore, these guns may be represented in the ship's own value when she has a cag attached. IE, she may has not 50 airplanes like a normal CVL 1944 would have, but, having those guns compensates for the lack of those... 20 or 25 airplanes.
And finally, some carriers of the ww2 had also conventional armament, not as effective and powerful as the main guns of a battleship, true, and, at their best they were guns more suitable for a destroyer sized ship, ok, and their purpose was merely defensive, yes, but they were there after all.
And now, in a partially 1.03 style (that's why the order of some of ship types is different)... The Imperial Japanese Navy!
