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It's finally time to announce the next expansion for Crusader Kings II! You might already know the name: "Sons of Abraham". Some of you were very close in your guesses on what it might be. No, it's not a Zombie DLC! Sons of Abraham focuses on the three Abrahamic religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism. The idea was to go back to the roots after all the attention given to the heathens, and to flesh out the religious side of the game for the monotheists; Christians in particular.

First and foremost, we wanted to do more with the Pope; how he gets elected, what powers he has and how you can gain his favor. Thus, we added the Cardinal title and the College of Cardinals. For simplicity's sake, there are only nine cardinals, and the Pope is always elected from among their number. Cardinals, however, are not elected; they are picked by the Pope from among his courtiers and the bishops of Europe. The selection is based on many factors; age, piety, opinion, culture (the Pope really likes Italians!), etc.

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So, how exactly do you get your man onto the chair of Saint Peter? Well, the Holy See is not a democracy, so this is not a direct process. First, you need at least one of your bishops to get appointed Cardinal by the Holy Father. Fortunately, you do not have to rely entirely on the character of the bishop himself, you can grease the machinery with a bit of lucre by putting money in the campaign fund (similar to how Doges are elected in Merchant Republics). Of course, it is also possible to carefully groom a candidate for a career in the Catholic church before you even make him a bishop.

When the Pope dies, the cardinals in turn elect his successor. This process cannot be directly influenced by the player, but the cardinals will reason much like the Pope does when he picks new cardinals, so it's better to have old, pious men made cardinals than incompetent wastrels whose election you paid for.

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Ok, so let us say one of your bishops is eventually made Pope. How does that serve you? Well, Popes that come from your realm will like you - a lot. Of course, that means they will be likely to grant your requests. Want to get divorced? No problem. Want to invade someone? Ok. To make this even more useful, we've given the Pope some new powers as well: he can give you money, plain and simple. He can also approve your candidate for a bishopric under Papal Investiture, or even declare a Crusade on the infidel of your choice. However, each time he does you a favor, he will like you less, so your influence will not last forever. Incidentally, having your antipope installed in Rome will have a similar effect. Oh, and if the Pope should happen to be of your very own dynasty, that will give you a lot of monthly Piety and Prestige.

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There are some direct benefits to controlling cardinals as well. You cannot ask to have someone excommunicated or invaded if they control more cardinals than you do.

That's that about the College of Cardinals. Next week I'll talk about holy orders, heresies, and other things...

ps.

Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham (official product page)
http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-sons-of-abraham

Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham announced (News article at PC gamer)
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/10/22/crusader-kings-ii-the-something-something-announced/[URL="http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/10/22/crusader-kings-ii-the-something-something-announced/"][/URL]
 
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There's been a lot of questions about mod-friendliness of the College of Cardinals. Yes the whole new feature will be exposed to the scripts. The College of Cardinals isn't in particular tied to the Catholic faith or hard coded in any way but it is a new kind of title added into the game called Religious Title which works pretty much like Minor title, but instead of being a liege who hands it out to his courtiers it is the religious head with the power to hand it to whoever fulfills the Allow trigger in the script. So if you want you could let kings and emperors receive a religious title called Defender of the Faith if you so desire. The whole election system is enabled by a little flag in the title called can_elect_head so it isn't required to have that in the title but without it, it is more or less just a minor title with little effect. Also only one religious title per religion can have the election system.

Hope that should be enough for the ones that has been asking about scripting and the new DLC :)

Thank for your response!
I'm asking myself if the College of Cardinals could be reused to model HRE electors... the elected guys have to be a Religious Head or could be a Secular Ruler? Someone could argue that the Holy Roman Emperor was a Cardinal of the Catholic Church in some way...

The are forced to be 9 or it could be changed via defines? If it is possible could be generalized to be used in any Elective Monarchy, so the votes could be "bought" and it is not so random anymore who will be the successor...

It is not clear to me how this mechanic works with Anti Popes one could have a "fake" College of Cardinals?
What happens if I vassalize the Pope? The College of Cardinals would become a puppet in my hands? I could call Crusades at will?
The other European countries do nothing?
 
I'm asking myself if the College of Cardinals could be reused to model HRE electors... the elected guys have to be a Religious Head or could be a Secular Ruler? Someone could argue that the Holy Roman Emperor was a Cardinal of the Catholic Church in some way...
The electors(cardinals) don't need to be religious rulers, bishops, pope, etc. But the elected head will always become the religious head.

The are forced to be 9 or it could be changed via defines?
Look at how minor titles work. They will work exactly the same as minor titles in every other regard.

It is not clear to me how this mechanic works with Anti Popes one could have a "fake" College of Cardinals?
No
 
Liking this very much.

Do you need to be independent to get a cardinal or could say the King of Bohemia get one while being part of the HRE?
Also are counts allowed to get cardinals if they are independent?
 
As has been asked before i'm really interested in a well modeled investiture controversy. At the game start the gregorian reforms have just recently begun so maybe they aren't a sure thing? Could a strong emperor possibly have maintained his hold on the papacy controlling the popes at his will? Or is it maybe represented enough with the church opinion malus due to church laws and the related events ?
 
The electors(cardinals) don't need to be religious rulers, bishops, pope, etc. But the elected head will always become the religious head.

So if I'll use for elect the HRE Emperor if would work but the Emperor would become the Pope or a Filkyr? I'll get a Game Over?
Could this be changed in the future? It would be an interesting mechanic to model Electors, too...

Look at how minor titles work. They will work exactly the same as minor titles in every other regard.

I meaned yes I could give the Cardinal title to more guys but what happens to the interface? It adapt to accomodate them or only the first 9 are shown?


OK, so I have to make the Anti Pope the Pope to have my personal College of Cardinals? The Anti Pope Casus Belli has changed?
If it is the same of before it is too easy to exploit, anti Pope --> vassal Pope --> Perpetual control of Cardinals!
 
Will an election mechanic be added to the Ecumenical Patriarch and the Coptic Pope as well, so we won't see them being elected as 25 either, but actually be bishops or old clerics etc.?
 
There's been a lot of questions about mod-friendliness of the College of Cardinals. Yes the whole new feature will be exposed to the scripts. The College of Cardinals isn't in particular tied to the Catholic faith or hard coded in any way but it is a new kind of title added into the game called Religious Title which works pretty much like Minor title, but instead of being a liege who hands it out to his courtiers it is the religious head with the power to hand it to whoever fulfills the Allow trigger in the script. So if you want you could let kings and emperors receive a religious title called Defender of the Faith if you so desire. The whole election system is enabled by a little flag in the title called can_elect_head so it isn't required to have that in the title but without it, it is more or less just a minor title with little effect. Also only one religious title per religion can have the election system.

Hope that should be enough for the ones that has been asking about scripting and the new DLC :)

Great. Please make it as moddable as possible. :)


Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham.

Abrahamic Religions: Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

Each Abrahamic religion has One True God.

1 + 1 + 1 = 3.

3 characters in HL3.

Three words in Half-Life 3.

One character in the number 3.

Crusader Kings Z confirmed.

Sounds as reasonable as any Robert Langdon book. :)
 
Hey Groogy, since you guys are going to add religious heads to heresies, will the Manichaens finally get their religious head, the Archegos? They still had one at the 867 start so it would be a welcome addition!