And practically speaking they are the same. Let's drop the technicalities shall we? :glare:
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And practically speaking they are the same. Let's drop the technicalities shall we? :glare:
They're not the same. If you don't make the distinction, then some people will think that all PI games are developed by Johan and his crew.
We are already working on Clausewitz 3. In fact, we have a dedicated programmer who is in charge of making the engine faster, better and more beautiful
Exactly. We are trying to separate Paradox Development Studio, we who work with grand strategy games, and Paradox Interactive, who work with publishing games. Please make that distinction.
We are already working on Clausewitz 3. In fact, we have a dedicated programmer who is in charge of making the engine faster, better and more beautiful
Care to enlighten me on what will make it more "beautiful"?
Seems a bit counterintuitive that you'd casually refer to both of them as 'Paradox'... ever considered a rebrand of one or the other?
I was gonna ask the same thing, I've written PI when I meant PDS writing a long post before and I'm fully aware of the distinction between the two.
Anyway, on topic, I've seen Space 4X games work just fine on a 2D map, not realistic of course, but they're games after all. Heck, I think any of the current PDS games could be used for a space setting with some really heavy modding.
What I was talking about though was replicating a 3-d space with nothing but 2d maps and fancy graphics to make it all look 3d though.
When you make a product, you only have X amount of time, Y amount of money, Z tools, etc. Saying, "I'll make the best product I can make but I only have $10 million I can raise to fund it" is not a self-imposed restraint. You have limited resources.
This is why I think you have never had a job or made anything yourself. You have no idea how the real world works, apparently. Everything PDS does is controlled by market-imposed restraints. If they had more time and more money they would make something different, probably better. Clausewitz engine is not the way it is because they said "this is EXACTLY what we want to make, nothing different" but because they say "we can afford to spend this much on the engine, take that long to make it, after that we are out of time and money and must do something else."
Saying that limitations are always self-imposed in any work... completely insane, you really can't have had any job ever if you think that.
Maybe you guys should take this to PM, I just wanted to talk about Clausewitz engine in space...
Completely insane is your argument. When you yourself say that you can raise at most 10 million dollars for the engine, you have to restrain yourself to that. It IS self imposed. MANY businesses have failed IRL because of a failure to impose that self restraint.
I have no more interest in going on with this conversation as you seem fixated on aggravating me.
Back on topic, I do believe that Clausewitz can into space.
I do as well, but even more beautiful than that?
I think she´s more talking about how beautiful the code looks.
How much money you have is not a self-imposed restraint. At this point I can only conclude your English is insufficient to carry on this conversation.
On the topic of Clausewitz Engine into space. If we have a game modeling for example just the Milky Way then I don't think it's actually that necesary to try to make it 3-d. Although obviously space is 3-d the Milky Way is still relatively flat so I doubt it'd actually detract too much from the game to instead just project everything onto a 2-d map. Space being 3-d is something which I'd imagine to be most significant in battles and these aren't depicted in anything other than numbers and names in Paradox games anyway.
edit: 2-d from the practical point of view, I'd assume that the engine would still be able to have stars floating at appropiate heights above whatever is used to indicate the "provinces".
edit: 2-d from the practical point of view, I'd assume that the engine would still be able to have stars floating at appropiate heights above whatever is used to indicate the "provinces".
How would you calculate the distances between stars though including depth? Wouldn't you then need a "height" variable for every star system?
We are already working on Clausewitz 3. In fact, we have a dedicated programmer who is in charge of making the engine faster, better and more beautiful
Altough probably won't be in the next "wave" of PDS games, this is good news nonetheless.