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I had the Uyghurs subjugate the full might of the Abbablob which ended the Shia Uprising. Cue becoming feudal and factions bringing the Abbasids back in power now with the Uyghurs as their vassal. So the subjugation somehow strengthened the Abbasids.
 
IRL the Byzantines and the Caliph were knocked out by nomads too, so... especially not weird.

I've actually never seen the nomad AI get that ambitious, though. I usually see them subjugate Bulgaria or Armenia and then become feudal.
No they were not, the caliphate had already collapsed when the turks showed up and the turks who invaded anatolia were nothing like the turks that first ventured south with seljuk, three centuries in a foreign land will do that to a people and a culture.
 
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No they were not, the caliphate had already collapsed when the turks showed up and the turks who invaded anatolia were nothing like the turks that first ventured south with seljuk, three centuries in a foreign land will do that to a people ana culture.

Afaik the Turks played a great role in the collapse of the Caliphate altough they were there as mercenaries "feoderati" if you want. Long before the Seljuks got there. The Caliphs was already a puppet in the hand of a Turkish warlord.
The rest of the Caliphate was divided between other warlords mostly Turks and some Persians and Arabs and of course the growing power of the Fatimids Caliphate.

And the Turks that invaded Anatolia were nomads of which the Seljuks had almost no control off if there ever had any in fact the Sultanate of Rum independent from the Seljukid Empire was formed merely 7 years after the Battle of Manzikert.
This was one of the big mistake the Byzantine made when they fought the Turks at the beginning thinking that beating the Sultan would stop the invasion.

Also Seljuk died 40 years before Manzikert and Arp Aslan was his grandson so either they lived very long or you got that 300 years wrong.
 
Afaik the Turks played a great role in the collapse of the Caliphate altough they were there as mercenaries "feoderati" if you want. Long before the Seljuks got there. The Caliphs was already a puppet in the hand of a Turkish warlord.
The rest of the Caliphate was divided between other warlords mostly Turks and some Persians and Arabs and of course the growing power of the Fatimids Caliphate.

And the Turks that invaded Anatolia were nomads of which the Seljuks had almost no control off if there ever had any in fact the Sultanate of Rum independent from the Seljukid Empire was formed merely 7 years after the Battle of Manzikert.
This was one of the big mistake the Byzantine made when they fought the Turks at the beginning thinking that beating the Sultan would stop the invasion.

Also Seljuk died 40 years before Manzikert and Arp Aslan was his grandson so either they lived very long or you got that 300 years wrong.
Seljuk was in the 900ds the battle on manzikert was in 1081 if i'm not mistaken so 100-200 years is probably closer to the truth (depening on when in the 900ds that seljuk lived).
 
Seljuk was in the 900ds the battle on manzikert was in 1081 if i'm not mistaken so 100-200 years is probably closer to the truth (depening on when in the 900ds that seljuk lived).

Seljuk converted to Islam in 985 and died between 1034/1038. And again Arp Arslan was his grandson so if you want to strech it is 100 years top.

Altough they didn't conquer Iran before 1040 (finished in 1044) and only took control control of Baghdad in 1055.

Since most historian makes the Seljuk Empire begin in 1037 when Tughril (Seljuk's son) proclaimed himself Sultan of Khorasan after conquering some Kwarezm cities it would be better to say that the Seljuks Turks began "going south" 40/45 years before Manzikert.
 
Accidental emperorship within 40 years starting as a small Nubian duke. A few vassals have already converted to the Coptic faith, we'll have to see how stable it'll be.
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What, converting a large empire to a heresy? It'll always be stable, obviously!
 
Not sure if you're being sarcastic... Anyway, about 10 years later more than half of his vassals have converted, and the heir is also currently a Coptic born in the Purple. Unfortunately they're losing a Seljuk invasion of Anatolia. As long as they keep Antioch in Miaphysite hands I won't complain though.
 
Not sure if you're being sarcastic... Anyway, about 10 years later more than half of his vassals have converted, and the heir is also currently a Coptic born in the Purple. Unfortunately they're losing a Seljuk invasion of Anatolia. As long as they keep Antioch in Miaphysite hands I won't complain though.
My sarcasm is pointed towards the game, not you. Large empires being waaaay too stable is a staple issue with ck2.
 
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Compared to that, the following is probably very ordinary.
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In religious mapmode so you can see all nearby muslim realms (=none). Lots of potential targets (well Greece, if I look at crusade weights) are still open, so I guess the Caliph choose a weak target over a logical one.
 
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This game needs more messy civil wars and successions like that

And deadlier ones to boot.

I mean, when I'm seeing tens of thousands of men being slaughtered on the battlefield, you'd think that might have some affect on the characters in the game, aside occasionally one or two.