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Personally I don't mind when it comes down to the difference between American English and British English, but the bigger problem comes down to where or who people learn it from. I have noticed far too many foreigners have been learning their English from Londoners, which would be great, if only they could pronounce their own language. Too many times have I heard foreigners who have learned English so well, let down by the difference between 'TH' and 'F'; instead of saying 'something', they are saying 'somefing' which is not a word, as my spellcheck so ironically tells me, however the majority of London doesn't seem to understand this (or 'vis' as some English people might say) and it has nothing to do with their accent. This is something that my cousin struggles with as a Swede learning English, even though she has surpassed the usual Swedish barrier of the difference between 'eyes' and 'ice' and their problem with 'J' and 'Y'.
 
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Angelic_Daemon said:
That's mainly due too the sixty thousand troops the US has in South Korea.

My biggest question is where the 'h' went in through, I see Groogy spell it trough in some of his posts, he's not only one just reading his AAR right now.
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That to me sounds like Groogy was taught English by an Irishman, love to hear how that sounds, an Irish tinged Swedish accented Engllish
 
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ranbir said:
I expect more to learn the Queen's English. Canada, India, Australia, we outnumber USA by a ridiculous amount.

Sad that USA get's priority.
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Erm, what?

English as first language:
USA - 256m

Canada - 20m
India - 0m
Australia - 15m
UK - 59m
total 94m


Total English speakers:
USA - 298m

Canada - 28m
India - 125m
Australia - 17m
UK - 64m
total 234m
 
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Clearly Canadian English should be the standard for Paradox, as the perfect mix of mostly British spelling and American-like (MidWest) pronunciation. English can be improved no further than it already has been in the great white north.
 
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Tvarog said:
But not only people in those countries play in english version.
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The claim was that English speakers in those named countries outnumbered those in the US, I was just showing that claim to not be so.
ranbir said:
Outdated stats so useful. :rolleyes:
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You have newer stats showing the number of English speakers in the US has declined since then? Or rocketed up in those other countries?
 
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sgt.stickybomb said:
Because it is a matter of honor ....... or is it honour?
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Aquae Sulis said:
To be honest, I have no real problem having one, another or both.

I understand that US English might be simpler and that half the world is in the USA's cultural sphere but to me it seems odd that we use the variant of one influential country - one which was not the original intent of the language.

Still if you think this debate is pointless, try and tell a Frenchman they shouldn't speak French...
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hillcf said:
Surely the point is that English was developed in ENGLAND over a 1000 years of time and is therefore the language that the English speak and write.

All other versions of the language are NOT English - they are modified in one way or another and need to have a modified name, like Indian English, Canadian English, American English etc.
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Linguists consider American English, the Appalachian dialect in particular, to have diverged the least from pre-17th Century English out of the now myriad dialects. That's why the New England dialect is the most similar American dialect to British English. Appeals to genetics carry little gravity in linguistics.

Proper languages are proper by fiat, not by fact. The Roman Empire was glorious, not because it was glorious per se, but because we declare it so. It should neither perturb nor surprise us when the barbarians can not be convinced of our truth. Is even acknowledging their lack of submission to Rome not beneath us? Do we not appear as insecure children when we dismiss their opinions as nonsense?

Superiority deigns. It does not solicit or plead.
 
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As a Chinese guy I was taught something akin to British English at school. However, since I'm a programmer, I'm now more accustomed to American spellings. You know, all of my IDEs and compilers say 'getColour' is an undefined method and I should use 'getColor' instead...
 
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I prefer British English to American English simply due to the more common use of 's' instead of 'z' but not a big deal for me.

What I really like to see more of in the Paradox games though is the use of a more formal language, e.g.

I am instead of I'm
Cannot or can not instead of can't
Does not instead of doesn't

etc etc.

It looks weird to play a historical strategy game like CK2 and EU4 where the dialogue, localisation, and interface use a modern language and tone bordering to ' slang'.

Is it due to English localisation being done by Swedish people?

(However, in this case. vanilla localisation is luckily better than that in most mods, at least in EU4.)
 
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AKronblad said:
It looks weird to play a historical strategy game like CK2 and EU4 where the dialogue, localisation, and interface use a modern language and tone bordering to ' slang'.
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About equally weird to playing a WW2 war-game like HoI2/3/4 or Sci-Fi Game (Stellaris) in medieval English would be I assume? ;)
 
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AKronblad said:
I prefer British English to American English simply due to the more common use of 's' instead of 'z' but not a big deal for me.

What I really like to see more of in the Paradox games though is the use of a more formal language, e.g.

I am instead of I'm
Cannot or can not instead of can't
Does not instead of doesn't

etc etc.

It looks weird to play a historical strategy game like CK2 and EU4 where the dialogue, localisation, and interface use a modern language and tone bordering to ' slang'.

Is it due to English localisation being done by Swedish people?

(However, in this case. vanilla localisation is luckily better than that in most mods, at least in EU4.)
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That kind of language isn't slang or informal. Only for one paper I've ever written in an academic setting have I been told not to use contractions. You don't seem to be a native speaker so it makes sense that you wouldn't know that, but if you refuse to use contractions your speech and writing seem stilted. That's just the way it is.
 
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Zhetone said:
That kind of language isn't slang or informal. Only for one paper I've ever written in an academic setting have I been told not to use contractions. You don't seem to be a native speaker so it makes sense that you wouldn't know that, but if you refuse to use contractions your speech and writing seem stilted. That's just the way it is.
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You may have a good point here (and you are right that I'm (!) not a native English speaker), but I'm not convinced and to me the used language doesn't fit the setting of these two games. Speaking is one thing, writing for a game set in medieval times is another.
 
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