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CNN
11:06 PM (GMT-4) Tuesday, March 8, 2016

Clinton routs Sanders in Mississippi; Trump edges out Cruz for narrow victory

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As was expected, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has routed Bernie Sanders in the Mississippi primary, scoring a 62-point lead over the Vermont senator in another decisive win. Many experts point to Clinton's continued dominance over African American voters, as well as older voters of higher income, as the decisive factors in her successive victories, but evidence also suggests the former Secretary has also done well among demographics favorable to Sanders such as the young and those of lower income.

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The Republican side of the Mississippi primary was much more tense, and defied many predictions: despite holding a massive lead in early polling in the state, Donald Trump managed to win only 3 points (a few hundred votes) than Texas Senatr Ted Cruz. Despite the Senator's recent rise in the polls, few expected him to be so competitive in the state as to nearly edge out the divisive billionaire candidate that has inspired so much fear in the GOP establishment. Is this the beginning of the end for Donald Trump, and a signal that Ted Cruz is poised to seriously challenge him for the party's nomination. Needless to say that Florida Senator Marco Rubio, once considered the savior of the GOP by many, no longer seems to qualify with a disappointing last place finish behind Ohio Governor Jon Kasich, both registering in the single digits. All in all, a bad night for moderate Republicans.

Clinton's win was certainly expected, as the article said, but Cruz's performance in Mississippi is impressive. Perhaps Trump can finally be dethroned from his position as the most likely GOP nominee?

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Azerty8
CNN
11:06 PM (GMT-4) Tuesday, March 8, 2016

Clinton and Trump Barely Win in Michigan

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It was given that Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would win Michigan. Polls predicted that she would defeat Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders by double digits. However, the last minute endorsement of Bernie Sanders from Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, a leading progressive in the Democratic party, at a press conference in the state capital was clearly enough to give Sanders the extra boost to make this one a nail-biter for the Clinton campaign, picking up around 47% of the vote. Something which no polls had predicted him to do.

Sanders continues to perform strong amongst self-identified liberals and young voters. Clinton won the vast majority of African-American and Latinos, and she kept a lofty majority amongst women. However, Sanders saw a substantial increase in women voting for him, many attribute to this Warren's support.

Despite outperforming expectations in Michigan, Sanders still underperformed in Michigan according to Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com. Sanders needed a win in Michigan tonight to stay on track to win the nomination. But the celebration amongst Sanders supporters clearly show that tonight was a spiritual victory for the campaign.

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Just a few days ago businessman Donald Trump was the favorite to win Michigan going into tonight's contest. However, a few Mitt Romney robocalls and several townhalls later the exit polls were showing Trump to be in some trouble. Ohio Governor John Kasich had campaigned hard in the Wolverine State, and he benefited from Marco Rubio's unresponsiveness towards Mitt Romney robocalls, pre-recorded messages from the 2012 Presidential Nominee that many Michigan Republicans woke up to. Kasich finished a strong second with 30% of the vote, just 4% behind Trump. Texas Senator Ted Cruz landed an equally impressive third place with 25% while Florida Senator Marco Rubio failed to reach the state's 15% viability threshold, only netting 11% of voters.

The results in both Mississippi and Michigan are bad news for both the Trump and Rubio campaign. It shows that Trump's lead may be falling to candidates like Cruz and Kasich. Meanwhile, Rubio's last place performance in both Mississippi and Michigan are bad news for the Senator. Combined with poor polling in Florida many are calling now for Rubio to drop out.

Kasich and Cruz were tonight's big winners. Although Trump won both primaries, he underperformed heavily and almost lost both. If Kasich wins in Ohio then he has a strong case for being the anti-Trump candidate. Cruz's close defeat in Mississippi almost saw Trump's deep south streak be broken.

Most new Kasich and Cruz voters came from the Rubio camp. In Mississippi this was due to the endorsement of the relatively unpopular Governor Phil Bryant. In Michigan, the Mitt Romney robocalls were the last straw for many voters.

Overall, Super Tuesday 2 points to the possibility that Trump and Clinton are falling. However, March 15th is do-or-die for both Rubio, Kasich, and Sanders.

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Angelica

I don't know what is more surprising: that Trump nearly lost in Mississippi or Bernie nearly won in Michigan. The results are certainly more mixed than first expected. Perhaps Clinton and Trump aren't as certain to be the candidates destined to lead their parties. Maybe the Trump can be stumped!
 
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Angelica

I don't know what is more surprising: that Trump nearly lost in Mississippi or Bernie nearly won in Michigan. The results are certainly more mixed than first expected. Perhaps Clinton and Trump aren't as certain to be the candidates destined to lead their parties. Maybe the Trump can be stumped!

The Deadest Lift

Nah, there is only one proper party for election in the USA.

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A.K. Lovecraft

Seems a very low-energy party to me.

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Nothing low energy about receiving free health care and swanky police uniforms.

Low energy is Idaho.
 
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Azerty8

CNN
4:40 PM (GMT - 0) March 10th, 2016
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Cruz Destroys Competition in Idaho, Trump Solid in Hawaii Victory

Michigan and Mississippi were the stars on Wednesday night, so it's no surprise that there was little coverage on Idaho and Hawaii. Both states had little to no polling coming into Wednesday and the candidates hadn't bothered to campaign there. Many predicted that Idaho would ride the wave of Trump while Hawaii would go to Rubio because he "does well on islands."

None of these came true. Instead, Texas Senator Ted Cruz picked up Idaho with the largest margin of victory for him in the campaign, blowing Trump out of the water. The Cruz campaign nabbed 25 of the state's 32 delegates.

Ted Cruz - 52.6%
Donald Trump - 25.0%
Marco Rubio - 11.1%
John Kasich - 8.0%
Ben Carson - 1.7%
Others - 1.6%

Meanwhile in Hawaii, a state whose Republican party is an endangered species, and a state which has some of the lowest voter turnout in the country, Donald Trump emerged victorious. Marco Rubio's "appeal to people living on islands" had mistakenly led some pundits to think that he would do well in the state. Instead, the Florida Senator had a mediocre third place finish.

Donald Trump - 40.5%
Ted Cruz - 33.7%
Marco Rubio - 13.8%
John Kasich - 10.9%
Ben Carson - 0.8%
Others - 0.3%

Idaho, and to a lesser extent Hawaii, show a fall in support for Trump. Whether this decline will worsen by March 15th, the dates of Governor Kasich and Senator Rubio's homestate primaries, is yet to be known. This may signal the beginning of the end for Trump.
 
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Angelica

I don't know what is more surprising: that Trump nearly lost in Mississippi or Bernie nearly won in Michigan. The results are certainly more mixed than first expected. Perhaps Clinton and Trump aren't as certain to be the candidates destined to lead their parties. Maybe the Trump can be stumped!


DensleyBrown

Is there any chance, do people think, of a Clinton–Sanders ticket? Or are the two camps too far gone into the ‘irreconcilable’ stage?
 
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Is there any chance, do people think, of a Clinton–Sanders ticket? Or are the two camps too far gone into the ‘irreconcilable’ stage?

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While it's entirely possible they might try it, I'm not sure it would actually achieve what I assume would be the goal - that is, that Sanders supporters are more likely, in my mind, than others to refuse to vote for a ticket in which he is not the presidential nominee. Similarly, if the Republicans chose Trump as a vice-presidential candidate, well, on one hand, it would be terrifying, but on the other, I doubt he would be able to draw the same amounts of support from his voting groups if he were not the presidential candidate.
 
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Is there any chance, do people think, of a Clinton–Sanders ticket? Or are the two camps too far gone into the ‘irreconcilable’ stage?

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While it's entirely possible they might try it, I'm not sure it would actually achieve what I assume would be the goal - that is, that Sanders supporters are more likely, in my mind, than others to refuse to vote for a ticket in which he is not the presidential nominee. Similarly, if the Republicans chose Trump as a vice-presidential candidate, well, on one hand, it would be terrifying, but on the other, I doubt he would be able to draw the same amounts of support from his voting groups if he were not the presidential candidate.

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Angelica

It seems unlikely to me that the two sides could manage to overcome their differences after battling it out for the nomination for so long. Then again, stranger things have happened. A Clinton-Sanders ticket could draw in the supporters of both sides.

I have an incredibly hard time picturing Trump ever accepting the position of vice-president. He's such a dominating force that he'd overshadow whoever the presidential candidate is. I feel that if he can't be president, he'll drop out.
 
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While it's entirely possible they might try it, I'm not sure it would actually achieve what I assume would be the goal - that is, that Sanders supporters are more likely, in my mind, than others to refuse to vote for a ticket in which he is not the presidential nominee. Similarly, if the Republicans chose Trump as a vice-presidential candidate, well, on one hand, it would be terrifying, but on the other, I doubt he would be able to draw the same amounts of support from his voting groups if he were not the presidential candidate.

I can see the logic in that. Many Sanders supporters are of course expressedly anti-Hilary, HRC being the Establishment candidate. (Despite her protests that being a woman somehow makes her anti-establishment, I'm not sure it's quite that easy to overcome eight years in the White House and many more in government…) And as VP, I dare say much of the new America he's proposing would become moot. Same for Trump, as you say – although, as you also say, that ignores the even more pressing and terrifying thought of a Cruz–Trump ticket.

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Angelica

It seems unlikely to me that the two sides could manage to overcome their differences after battling it out for the nomination for so long. Then again, stranger things have happened. A Clinton-Sanders ticket could draw in the supporters of both sides.

I have an incredibly hard time picturing Trump ever accepting the position of vice-president. He's such a dominating force that he'd overshadow whoever the presidential candidate is. I feel that if he can't be president, he'll drop out.

I agree Trump is not VP material. Not in the least because he just won't be forgotten that easily. I imagine that the RNC will try everything to stop him getting within ten miles of the ticket before even considering putting his name on it.
 
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Breaking news:

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9:49 AM (EST - 0) March 13th, 2016
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Hillary Clinton indicted due to email scandal, temporarily suspends campaign

The Democrat Party was shocked when the Democrat Presidential frontrunner, Hillary Clinton, was indicted for her role in the deaths of four Americans during the Benghazi attacks in 2012. After an unannounced breakthrough in the case, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence formally linked Clinton's unsecured emails to intelligence gained from ISIS in which to allow them to conduct the attacks. This allowed the FBI to formally charge the Democrat frontrunner.

It is reported that the frontrunner is "dismayed" at the current time. While Hillary Clinton has made no comment to the press, her husband William Clinton had a select interview citing how she is going to fight this case and is completely innocent. To fight this case however, Hillary has suspended her presidential campaign, much to the dismay of much of the Democratic Party. It is unknown just what will happen, however reports have it that Sanders was a very happy man early this morning.
 
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Nidhoggr

Breitbart News
11:04 AM (EST - 0) March 13th, 2016
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Jim Webb Says 'Hell No!" to Socialism


With the fall of the Clinton Campaign, and in turn the Democratic establishment candidate, many now look to Senator Bernie Sanders as the only choice of the Democratic primary, much to the chagrin of the moderately conservative wing of the Democratic Party. Former Senator Jim Webb made headlines earlier this month when he spoke out against Secretary Clinton stating "I would vote for Hillary Clinton", a strong sign of disapproval for sure. But Webb isn't quite done swinging.

When prompted about his choice now that Clinton was out, Webb reportedly said:

"With Clinton, we knew we were bound for bad policies. With Sanders, we get very much the same thing. The two voted identically nearly 93% of the time, and frankly, socialism is not an American value. It is clear that the Democratic Party is being subverted by radical leftists, and it is killing the moderate vote."

Even moreso important, reporters pushed Webb to clarify who he thought would best suit America, and he gave this:

"The needs of working class Americans are increasingly being overshadowed by fringe groups, on all sides, left and right. With how this election season is going, I wouldn't be surprised if I voted for Donald Trump."

You have it there folks; Donald Trump reaps what the leftist agenda sows.

Wow, Democrat implosion amirite? Called it.
 
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Wow, Democrat implosion amirite? Called it.

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Angelica

I figured the whole email scandal would come to bite Hillary in the ass one day. Dear god though, the idea of Democrats voting Trump is terrifying. Sounds like the Democrats are going to have a rough time from here on out. Maybe with this blow to Hillary's campaign, we'll see Sanders vs Trump after all.
 
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CNN
9:49 AM (EST - 0) March 13th, 2016
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Hillary Clinton indicted due to email scandal, temporarily suspends campaign

The Democrat Party was shocked when the Democrat Presidential frontrunner, Hillary Clinton, was indicted for her role in the deaths of four Americans during the Benghazi attacks in 2012. After an unannounced breakthrough in the case, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence formally linked Clinton's unsecured emails to intelligence gained from ISIS in which to allow them to conduct the attacks.

It is reported that the frontrunner is "dismayed" at the current time. While Hillary Clinton has made no comment to the press, her husband William Clinton had a select interview citing how she is going to fight this case and is completely innocent. To fight this case however, Hillary has suspended her presidential campaign, much to the dismay of much of the Democratic Party. It is unknown just what will happen, however reports have it that Sanders was a very happy man early this morning.

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((The Senate and its committees do not have the power to indict a person. That would be left up to the Justice Department or a Grand Jury (not entirely sure in this case) . Furthermore, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence does not have anything to do with the probe initiated by the FBI (Reminder that this is not formally an investigation). The House Select Committee on Benghazi held hearings and Clinton testified to the committee but that was the extent of Congress's involvement in this. In addition her being indicted for "her role in the deaths of four Americans during the Benghazi attacks" is a bit of a stretch here. A better indictment would be "gross negligence" from Section 793(f) of the United States Code of Laws. Also what does ISIS have to do with Benghazi? ISIS was not involved in Benghazi and its Libyan branch was founded in late 2014, two years after Benghazi.

I don't have a problem with Hillary's emails containing some classified information that through "gross negligence" were accessed by some terrorist group, that's fine. Her suspending her campaign she's been waiting for a long time to win, although a bit of a stretch, I have no problem with it. But you need to fix some of this because it does not make much sense.))
 
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ToroDot

Welp, Trump has effectively bit himself in the ass with this incident:

MSN News
3 hours ago - March 13, 2016

Trump Attacked by Mexican Insurgent

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This photo was taken seconds after the incident occurred in Chicago, Illinois

CHICAGO, Illinois - During a controversial Donald Trump rally in the Midwestern city of Chicago last night, former convict and Mexican gang member José Chavez was able to successfully charge and tackle the 69-year-old candidate, which resulted in mass hysteria and multiple Secret Service agents toppling and eventually killing the insurgent.

According to eyewitness accounts, Trump suffered minor cuts and bruises to the head, chest, and upper pelvic region while Chavez was immediately shot in the head just minutes after he tackled the Republican candidate.