EU4 - Development Diary - 31st January 2017

[Nabbe99]

Could moders base the system on the specific estate in a province instead of the culture of a province?

 

[perhje]

Second part is interesting, but I'm not sure that having one modifier depend on the other is the most beneficial way to go about it, when most sources of it should just have both. As an example, it has been confirmed that Poland is going to get +cav ratio in addition to its +cav combat, and in the same idea. A 1:1 proportion (for instance) would result in a 33% cav ratio increase, instead of the 10% stated. That might be too much, especially given that Poland is Eastern tech group, and therefore has the ability to get another 10% cav ratio from happy Cossacks estate.

That was my idea with the part too, more a up to 20-ish% at +100% combat ability than a one-to-one ratio which would be crazy. Of course the bonuses from things that already gives cavalry-ratio would have to be decreased or removed like the winged hussar idea and happy cossacks.

 

[JCivX]

In my personal experience, I played hundreds of games into the late 1600's and only one of them had Mingplosion. Patch 1.19 must have stealth buffed Ming's stability or something.

You've played hundreds of game already with patch 1.19?? Holy crap!

 

[Halo]

You've played hundreds of game already with patch 1.19?? Holy crap!

I know right I am totally the best EU4 player to have ever lived

 

[Phi]

We didn't worry much about that, because if you manage to be big and strong enough to both get manchu and prussian culture, you have already won the game.

Isn't a Japan wit Manchu culture the more obvious choice for +20% discipline armies?

 

[Dr. Quaz]

This would be really cool because you could add Janissaries, unique for Turkish culture nations or Ottomans, but can only be recruited from Christian provinces.

 

[Rikissa]

I think I would like special Janissary regiments much, much better than the current modifier

 

[RedBaronFlyer]

Perhaps it could be combined with the current Janissary Decadence event? I.E if you use too many Janissary banner units the Janissaries would become more and more influential in the court. This could apply to any other nations as well, the Manchu banners for example

 

[Santos Valorion]

Hey so is athens going to be a tributary of byzantium now?

 

[Metz]

Hey so is athens going to be a tributary of byzantium now?

Granada should be a tribute of Castile too. They should also have the Granada province split to create Malaga to make them a bit tougher.

 

[Anreads]

What's up with all the russians talking about the russian Ni:s in every thread. New balkan much?

 

[zeredek]

PLEASE make this avaiable as a national idea for Custom Nations! That would be so cool!

 

[Chief of Staff]

What's up with all the russians talking about the russian Ni:s in every thread. New balkan much?

To be perfectly blunt, it get tiring to hear nationalist debates about Country A vs. Country B or how a country should be. And especially in threads that had nothing to do with it. These kind of discussions belong in off-topic forum or in another thread started for this specific topic.

Nationalism has been nothing but a troublesome ideal that caused millions of deaths (you can thank a Serbian nationalist for starting a world war without considering the consequences of his act; the blood is on his hands), made things worse than it should have, and yielded absolutely no positive results at all.

Nationalism also left us stuck with problems in the Middle East like the Israeli-Palestinian problem that has been going on for too long. We are also stuck with the Kashmir dispute between India and Pakistan which have also gone on for too long and, to make matters worse, involves two powers with nuclear arsenal. Nationalism as conceived in 19th century is a worst dumb-ass idea the humanity ever thought of and which ought to be relegated to an ash heap of history, to borrow Ronald Reagan's phrase.

Nationalism is a cancer on the face of our planet Earth and need to be killed off.

P.S. Sorry for this lengthy post but I felt a need to vent about this.

 

[Threshold]

PLEASE make this avaiable as a national idea for Custom Nations! That would be so cool!

Eh. Definitely shouldn't be something you can add to a custom by default.
But I would absolutely support exporting the line enabling them to defines, so that it can be added as a customizable bonus via modding.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

PLEASE make this avaiable as a national idea for Custom Nations! That would be so cool!

They said it was tied to the culture, so if you make a CN with that culture you should be able to raise banners.

 

[Duarte]

To be perfectly blunt, it get tiring to hear nationalist debates about Country A vs. Country B or how a country should be. And especially in threads that had nothing to do with it. These kind of discussions belong in off-topic forum or in another thread started for this specific topic.

Nationalism has been nothing but a troublesome ideal that caused millions of deaths (you can thank a Serbian nationalist for starting a world war without considering the consequences of his act; the blood is on his hands), made things worse than it should have, and yielded absolutely no positive results at all.

Nationalism also left us stuck with problems in the Middle East like the Israeli-Palestinian problem that has been going on for too long. We are also stuck with the Kashmir dispute between India and Pakistan which have also gone on for too long and, to make matters worse, involves two powers with nuclear arsenal. Nationalism as conceived in 19th century is a worst dumb-ass idea the humanity ever thought of and which ought to be relegated to an ash heap of history, to borrow Ronald Reagan's phrase.

Nationalism is a cancer on the face of our planet Earth and need to be killed off.

P.S. Sorry for this lengthy post but I felt a need to vent about this.

OK I wasn't going to say nothing but the amount of crap on this post is too much for me to bear, so here goes:

Nationalism gave us democracy in case you forgot, the revolutions of 1848, the French revolution, even the American revolutionary war, had the belief that the "nation had a right to decide it's future" you can't have democracy without nationalism, it's like having freedom of speech without populism, one invites the other because of it's nature, saying that nationalism is the worst idea of the 19 century and gave nothing to humankind is an extremely infantile thing to say considering what it gave us, secondly I find it hilarious to the max that two of the examples you have, have they're roots not in nationalism per se, but in British colonialism and considering your choice of avatar, well it's hilarious, considering also that my country (Portugal) became a democratic in the first place because of Beresford's treatment of national soldiers, which sparked nationalism and with it democracy.

 

[zeredek]

Eh. Definitely shouldn't be something you can add to a custom by default.
But I would absolutely support exporting the line enabling them to defines, so that it can be added as a customizable bonus via modding.

Modding defines is awful though

They said it was tied to the culture, so if you make a CN with that culture you should be able to raise banners.

Yeah, but if they make it a National Idea you can have banners while still having region-proper names. I kind of had the idea to use it for a CK2 style Feudal Monarchy

 

[Semi-Lobster]

Since the new expansion is focused on the Manchu and North East Asia. I have a question about the region. Is the weird situation in Sakhalin ever going to be addressed?

The Yuan, Ming and later, the Qing did claim sovereignty over Sakhalin island (which they called 'Kuyi'), through dispensing of titles and the receiving of tributes from the Ainu people but they did not maintain any military presence on the island though or extend any other expression of sovereigntory administration over it. In the game though, when the various Tungustic clans starts getting gobbled up we end up with Korean Sakhalin or Chinese Sakhalin, when what really happened, and what isn't represented in the game was the island was colonized by settlers, not soldiers. Japanese from the Matsumae clan had been slowly settling the area around Aniva Bay since 1679 and found no resistance to their presence or movement. At the very least the southern portion of Sakhalin should be uncolonized.

 

[Johan]

So, if there are cultural bonuses besides this one, say someone mods Persian and Turkish cultures to have each their own bonus, would I only get the bonus from my main culture or would I get both if I accepted the other?

Could it be modded so that it does if not?

Country bonus is only on primary culture.

Province bonus is for the set culture..

 

[Metroidkirby]

the French revolution, even the American revolutionary war, had the belief that the "nation had a right to decide it's future" you can't have democracy without nationalism

This is partly right, the notion of "nation" that we know wasn't the same at this time. "Nation" back then is the subjective vision of nationalism, and today when we speak of nationalism, it's the objective vision, and they're quite the opposite. The old subjective nationalism means you join a nation because you adhere to its principle, while the modern objective one means you are part of the nation because of objective criteria (generally the language). French "nation" was created in the french revolution, you were french because you were a free person who adhere to the very principle of the egality between people, and American "nation" was created in the american revolution, you were american because you were a free person who adhere to the very principle of self determination (which both leads to democracy). The notion of democracy is born with the old subjective nationalism, while the modern notion of objective nationalism added nothing interesting besides good-looking borders.