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based on these streams it seems like the meat & potatoes of this game are already squared away
That was discussed already in the topic tank combat.
As a general statement:
A) German optics had a far better Field of View than their US-Counterparts in the same magnification ranges with the only exception being the Sherman 76mm.
B) German gunnery optics had a unique reticule allowing to calculate distance to the target without shooting.
C) The lacking situational awarness of the gunner within the Panther(!) is compensated by the better situational awareness of the commander and his better capability to guide the gunner on target.
There is no problem when the Panther may have a bit longer aim-time than the Sherman, but his accuracy is gnerally higher on all models.
Well, it looks like the unit cards are still work in process and I also truly hope so. They look ugly, too small, hard to read and too little information in them. At least the rate of fire and the actual speed (km/h) should be there but they are not.
Maybe give us "casual mode" and "advanced mode" for the unit cards. In anycase somebody is going to dig up the info at somepoint, so why not to make it available to everybody?
B) Is somewhat incorrect. American optics had such a feature, too. Just because the two optics look different, doesn't mean they don't have similar properties.
C) Is silly. Panzerbros have recently taken to disparaging the M4 as being 'blind' where as the Panther tank commander has the eye of Sauron mounted on the back of his tank. This is just untrue; and is largely an artifact of Panzerbros going out of their way to muddle the issue by comparing first generation Sherman optics and fire control with the most up-to-date German solutions.
I love these Streams but the lack of historical knowledge from these guys is like nails down a blackboard for me.... I cringe at calling 'Brens' rifles, 'PIATs' as AT Rifles and Tank guns, as cannons!
PLEASE NO MORE!
PLEASE NO MORE!
Don't forget, 'Butterfly.'I love these Streams but the lack of historical knowledge from these guys is like nails down a blackboard for me.... I cringe at calling 'Brens' rifles, 'PIATs' as AT Rifles and Tank guns, as cannons!
PLEASE NO MORE!
I'm sure these guys are great people, but they don't exactly present the game well. Their awkward stammering over one another, borderline flirting between each other, and absolute lack of knowledge of the subject matter has made the two streams that we've seen so far frustratingly uninformative. In order to get any useful information, I had to watch both streams several times on my own to look at what was happening on screen, with them muted.
In their defense, though, the problem with the last stream wasn't entirely with them. People spamming the chat with:
Was pretty insipid. No, this is just the campaign where the most infamous German Tiger ace died. I'm sure Eugen forgot Tigers.
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lol yes I highlighted that in another thread.... that was hilarious. I have to agree this bumberling commentary is a hindrance rather than a help. I'll not hold anything against these guys, it must be very difficult to ad lib for an hour but it needs more organisation clearly or at the very least a broadcast plan.
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Hopefully it's not an indication they are aiming at the "I want tigers" audience. Could this be why the interface stats are dumbed down?
Less wargame and more RTS?
Less wargame and more RTS?
All Tigers are on Eastern Front and Italy at the moment, stay in touch.
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Thanks, been some time since I looked seriously at the tank vs tanks debates, or TDs for that matter.
I also noticed on the Stream that I think Panther D had range of 1200 m. I thought Panther D's muzzle velocity etc made them theoretically get kills out to 2k. Admittedly terrain in West Europe gives that engagement range less frequently than the Steppe. But I am interested to see how the game models long range tank duels.
THonar the Firefly was also famous for it's very awkward loading process, because the loader barely had room to put the shell into the breach and had to reach back up behind his head and around iirc. The 17pdr took up so much room in the turret. Would have been a slow ROF as well I expect due to this.
B) Would you please explain? As far as I found the reticules for e.g. the 76 are only ballistic reticules, not milliradian ones.
C) What do you mean with "Panzerbros"? Also: Please explain your opinion on that matter.
The stats cards worry me, too. So much information seems to be left out, even stuff that surely must still be in the game, like how well a unit detects stealthy units.