Is ther any plan to add Chinese support in CK2、EU4、HOI4 and Stellaris？

[godloveall]

EDITED BY STAFF 28/05/18
Greetings everyone,
As this thread is still making the rounds I'd like to point you to a response in regards to this matter that one of our associate producers made. She has more insight into how we do localization and has provided a more elaborate explanation.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...studio-anything.615174/page-145#post-24276095

Please read that before continuing further in this thread as it should give you more context on what we want the future to hold.

/TinyWiking

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Original Post
I noticed that these games all make a big selling from chinese players on steam
CK2: more than 35K copies
EU4: more than 37K copies
HOI4: more than 57K copies
Stellaris: more than 97K copies

And all these games supported chinese by moding it

So i want know is it possible to add chinese language in game
Or how many copies still needed to support chinese

Thank you and appricated

 

[AndrewT]

Moved to PDS forum.

 

[Parapluman]

From a recent EUIV thread.

Chinese is completely ruled out for EU4 because it runs an old version of the Clausewitz engine. Note that language support may change in future games (but I don't have the latest info on that).

CKII is probably out too as it's running on an even older version of the Clausewitz engine and so it likely suffers from the same problems.
As for newer games like HOIIV and Stellaris I couldn't say.

 

[godloveall]

From a recent EUIV thread.


CKII is probably out too as it's running on an even older version of the Clausewitz engine and so it likely suffers from the same problems.
As for newer games like HOIIV and Stellaris I couldn't say.

Chinese fans can make it display chinese, Paradox owns the code but can not do anything?

 

[godloveall]

HOI3 has 20K chinese players, and HOI4 increases to 50K chinese players after supporting mod. will it be better if support chinese languge? what about CK2,EU4,and Stellaris?

 

[shiro the bushi]

HOI3 has 20K chinese players, and HOI4 increases to 50K chinese players after supporting mod. will it be better if support chinese languge? what about CK2,EU4,and Stellaris?

think someone answered this for you on the ck2 forums iirc, ck2 and eu4 have to use single character and cant handle two character languages like chinese.

 

[godloveall]

think someone answered this for you on the ck2 forums iirc, ck2 and eu4 have to use single character and cant handle two character languages like chinese.

and other people also answer that this is not a reason to end the topic

 

[shiro the bushi]

and other people also answer that this is not a reason to end the topic

i just read it over and they basically did
link: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...chinese-support-in-ck2.1077706/#post-23947635

 

[godloveall]

Cars,air conditional,and other foreign goods selling in china with chinese UI and instruction
Paradox wants money from chinese people, but without chinese localization

 

[AndrewT]

We sell our games to people in many many countries in the world, we can't localise for all of them. Aside from China we've had similar comments (in some cases demands) from Turkey, Japan, Russia, and others I can't think of right now.

The answer is always that our marketing department constantly evaluates all these markets to see if a localisation makes economic sense; so far it has not for those PDS games, it seems. Cities:Skylines has Chinese, if you're interested in that game.

The other point is that old games like CK2 and EU4 are never going to be completely re-written at this late stage in their lives.

 

[godloveall]

We sell our games to people in many many countries in the world, we can't localise for all of them. Aside from China we've had similar comments (in some cases demands) from Turkey, Japan, Russia, and others I can't think of right now.

The answer is always that our marketing department constantly evaluates all these markets to see if a localisation makes economic sense; so far it has not for those PDS games, it seems. Cities:Skylines has Chinese, if you're interested in that game.

The other point is that old games like CK2 and EU4 are never going to be completely re-written at this late stage in their lives.

thks a lot
Since HOI4 and Stellaris each sold nearly 10k still has no chinese localization
even CK3 and EU5 may not support chinese, cause CK2 and EU5 sold just 2-3K, and i think is is not possible sold more than 10K by the time
Is that right?

 

[AndrewT]

The Chinese government banned HOI4. We are hardly going to localise it to a market we cannot sell in.

Frankly, 10k is a very small number. These games sell/have sold 500k-2m overall. While I have nothing to do with these decisions, presumably marketing has decided the ROI is not there.

You could approach our Chinese partner 10cent, maybe they will consider making or financing local licensed versions in Chinese.

 

[kimisuke]

The Chinese government banned HOI4. We are hardly going to localise it to a market we cannot sell in.

Frankly, 10k is a very small number. These games sell/have sold 500k-2m overall. While I have nothing to do with these decisions, presumably marketing has decided the ROI is not there.

You could approach our Chinese partner 10cent, maybe they will consider making or financing local licensed versions in Chinese.

as a Chinese , it's really sad to know.

 

[godloveall]

The Chinese government banned HOI4. We are hardly going to localise it to a market we cannot sell in.

Frankly, 10k is a very small number. These games sell/have sold 500k-2m overall. While I have nothing to do with these decisions, presumably marketing has decided the ROI is not there.

You could approach our Chinese partner 10cent, maybe they will consider making or financing local licensed versions in Chinese.

I don't buy the banned reason, HOI banned from hoi or hoi2,but all chinese player brought game from Hongkong, you should know it, only HK itself can not contribute that much selling

How many is enough?10K is a mistake Stellaris sold 100K, i chekced steamspy
Skyline only sold 350K and most of it is from the discount selling
Come on! you own the statistic, you don't need me to put all number here

 

[AndrewT]

I don't buy the banned reason, HOI banned from hoi or hoi2,but all chinese player brought game from Hongkong, you should know it, only HK itself can not contribute that much selling

We are in business with a major mainland Chinese player 10cent. I think they would know better than you or I whether this investment you are suggesting would make sense. Wouldn't they?

How many is enough?10K is a mistake Stellaris sold 100K, i chekced steamspy

You suddenly revise your figure by a factor of 10, but only for one of the four games. OK then.

Let me ask you this: if it would be so financially advantageous to produce Chinese localised versions (as you seem to believe), what is Paradox's motive for not doing so, do you think?

Why was a Chinese version of CSL produced, but not of the other games?

 

[godloveall]

We sell our games to people in many many countries in the world, we can't localise for all of them. Aside from China we've had similar comments (in some cases demands) from Turkey, Japan, Russia, and others I can't think of right now.

The answer is always that our marketing department constantly evaluates all these markets to see if a localisation makes economic sense; so far it has not for those PDS games, it seems. Cities:Skylines has Chinese, if you're interested in that game.

The other point is that old games like CK2 and EU4 are never going to be completely re-written at this late stage in their lives.

Pls tell me, what you mean by ' i can play skylines? a Russian and Polish tell you they want CK and EU localization, and you tell them to play HOI4?

 

[godloveall]

We are in business with a major mainland Chinese player 10cent. I think they would know better than you or I whether this investment you are suggesting would make sense. Wouldn't they?


You suddenly revise your figure by a factor of 10, but only for one of the four games. OK then.

Let me ask you this: if it would be so financially advantageous to produce Chinese localised versions (as you seem to believe), what is Paradox's motive for not doing so, do you think?

Why was a Chinese version of CSL produced, but not of the other games?

Pls tell me how many is enough?
Stellaris sold nearly 100K is not enough, Russia,Potugal,Spain,France,Brazil less than China, but localizaed
Just tell me how many is enough, so i can tell other chinese fans to buy to reach the number

Thank you

 

[AndrewT]

Games that have been sold do not count because, well, they are already sold - we can't charge them extra for Chinese localisation done after they bought.

As I suspect you are well aware, there is no such magic number. It's a ROI calculation. Clearly marketing have decided it is not worth it as yet.

 

[godloveall]

Games that have been sold do not count because, well, they are already sold - we can't charge them extra for Chinese localisation done after they bought.

As I suspect you are well aware, there is no such magic number. It's a ROI calculation. Clearly marketing have decided it is not worth it as yet.

Thank you, so if chinese brought 100K of any one P's game, there will be a localization in next generation?

 

[AndrewT]

That's not at all what I said, was it?