That moment when you have 5-6 empires that love you

[svenvangent]

There's still plenty to do!

So I took all my courage prepared all my ships with directly behind them the ground troops to invade the planets but I can't declare war upon my sneaky backyard empire
As you may know or not bud I'm in a federation club where I'm not El Presidento so it seems you can't go to war than . ok than back to my palace and wait wait wait even more .

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

So I took all my courage prepared all my ships with directly behind them the ground troops to invade the planets but I can't declare war upon my sneaky backyard empire
As you may know or not bud I'm in a federation club where I'm not El Presidento so it seems you can't go to war than . ok than back to my palace and wait wait wait even more .

I see your waiting until your the boss in the federation. Are relations negative between the federation mates and the backyard empire?

 

[svenvangent]

I see your waiting until your the boss in the federation. Are relations negative between the federation mates and the backyard empire?

No they are also positive to him but a war now came unexpectedly from another empire who is totally on the other side of the galaxy , my first nuclear reaction was noooooooooooo ......... so with my tail between my legs I went for the war that would exterminate me to the ground as the enemy empire was way to stronger .
Nothing was specially happening the first minute except that I saw a lot and I mean a lot of blue ships coming in my direction and suddenly I remember ......I was in a federation wooooooow lets go party and yes we did , we came , we did and we won , oooo yes ...... wonderful .
After that war I ended the game and started a new one because I hate to see that may empire get the form of a long banana form and be squeezed between to other empires , it was not going to end up well anyway .

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

No they are also positive to him but a war now came unexpectedly from another empire who is totally on the other side of the galaxy , my first nuclear reaction was noooooooooooo ......... so with my tail between my legs I went for the war that would exterminate me to the ground as the enemy empire was way to stronger .
Nothing was specially happening the first minute except that I saw a lot and I mean a lot of blue ships coming in my direction and suddenly I remember ......I was in a federation wooooooow lets go party and yes we did we came we did and we won oooo yes wonderful .
After that war I ended the game and started a new one because I hate to see that may empire get the form of a long banana form and be squeezed between to other empires , it was not going to end up well anyway .

Live and learn

My current empire isn't working out to plan. A lack of worlds that I can colonise. Poor mineral generation. Accidentally swapped sensor data to a neighbour who is pinching systems around. Trying to go on the tall side, but not quite working to plan.

 

[svenvangent]

Live and learn

My current empire isn't working out to plan. A lack of worlds that I can colonise. Poor mineral generation. Accidentally swapped sensor data to a neighbour who is pinching systems around. Trying to go on the tall side, but not quite working to plan.

First impression of my game seems to be good I'm 10 days new
Speaking of making mistakes in the game , one time I thought I ordered 10 corvette but instead when I came back to my capital planet there where to my surprise 10 construction ship floating around my spaceport .

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

First impression of my game seems to be good I'm 10 days new
Speaking of making mistakes in the game , one time I thought I ordered 10 corvette but instead when I came back to my capital planet there where to my surprise 10 construction ship floating around my spaceport .

That's a hefty amount of minerals gone!

I've built starports and upgraded them on sector planets and completely forgot about them. That's over three thousand minerals wasted.

 

[svenvangent]

That's a hefty amount of minerals gone!

I've built starports and upgraded them on sector planets and completely forgot about them. That's over three thousand minerals wasted.

Poor starport but on the other hand ( choose which one you want ) more starbuildings means more fleet capacity .

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

Poor starport but on the other hand ( choose which one you want ) more starbuildings means more fleet capacity .

Indeed.

 

[svenvangent]

Indeed.

15 years in to a new game and first contact has been made with a first thought in my mind thinking ...... why not do a first war already .
I would be the first to do that between him and me and before we get in to the mix of trade defence alias and all the rest of the fully catastrophic bureaucratise paperwork with to many empires and finding out who is doing with who ....... we should go to war a blitzkrieg one perhaps .
My name and my game are on pause nothing can happen for the moment but first a cup of good coffee .

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

15 years in to a new game and first contact has been made with a first thought in my mind thinking ...... why not do a first war already .
I would be the first to do that between him and me and before we get in to the mix of trade defence alias and all the rest of the fully catastrophic bureaucratise paperwork with to many empires and finding out who is doing with who ....... we should go to war a blitzkrieg one perhaps .
My name and my game are on pause nothing can happen for the moment but first a cup of good coffee .

Is/was a war post first contact practical?

In one game I went to war a few years after first contact. Ran from system to system destroying mining/research stations. Didn't realise it didn't contribute towards the war score. Finally engaged the hostile empires fleet stupidly in range of their starport. Got annihilated and they rushed at me. So that's why I have a few corvettes run around to prompt their fleet to leave the starport/capital.

It's a good idea to be friendly with a local neighbour who shares most of your empire/civilisations ethics. Avoid sharing sensor data because they will colonise systems that you may have your eyes on.

 

[svenvangent]

Is/was a war post first contact practical?

In one game I went to war a few years after first contact. Ran from system to system destroying mining/research stations. Didn't realise it didn't contribute towards the war score. Finally engaged the hostile empires fleet stupidly in range of their starport. Got annihilated and they rushed at me. So that's why I have a few corvettes run around to prompt their fleet to leave the starport/capital.

It's a good idea to be friendly with a local neighbour who shares most of your empire/civilisations ethics. Avoid sharing sensor data because they will colonise systems that you may have your eyes on.

Good to know to avoid the " sharing sensor data " in my last game I gave them matter of speaking for free ooo you want one here take two
Thanks

 

[FuzziSlippers]

Is/was a war post first contact practical?

In one game I went to war a few years after first contact. Ran from system to system destroying mining/research stations. Didn't realise it didn't contribute towards the war score. Finally engaged the hostile empires fleet stupidly in range of their starport. Got annihilated and they rushed at me. So that's why I have a few corvettes run around to prompt their fleet to leave the starport/capital.

It's a good idea to be friendly with a local neighbour who shares most of your empire/civilisations ethics. Avoid sharing sensor data because they will colonise systems that you may have your eyes on.

Worked for me, within the first 50 years of my current playthrough I encountered, conquered, vasselized, intergrated, and enslaved the first two default empires I came across, didn't know what hit them now I have more resources and influence than I can do with.

Side note; In my opinion, always play as independent if you are powerful enough you can crush any federation that challenges you, along with whatever fallen empire decides to awaken! I think of it like this, NATO is obsolete when the United States can destroy the entire world 10x over with it's military might particularly its weapons of mass destruction, and if this game is supposed to be anything like real life politics and war (which I am 95% sure it is based some what on real life politics and foreign policy) then the same principal should apply to this game

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

Good to know to avoid the " sharing sensor data " in my last game I have them matter of speaking for free ooo you want one here take two
Thanks

I've been a little naughty and swapped the sensor data with spiritualist allies, at least their worlds are around mine. The issue on my doorstep is an uplifted materialist species who have five worlds dotted about. My two thirds of a corner looks all spotty.

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

Worked for me, within the first 50 years of my current playthrough I encountered, conquered, vasselized, intergrated, and enslaved the first two default empires I came across, didn't know what hit them now I have more resources and influence than I can do with.

Side note; In my opinion, always play as independent if you are powerful enough you can crush any federation that challenges you, along with whatever fallen empire decides to awaken! I think of it like this, NATO is obsolete when the United States can destroy the entire world 10x over with it's military might particularly its weapons of mass destruction, and if this game is supposed to be anything like real life politics and war (which I am 95% sure it is based some what on real life politics and foreign policy) then the same principal should apply to this game

Conquered two independent empires!
What an ace!

It makes sense before they all start bonding. Current empire is focused on uplift and eventual integrate. I'm in between two Fallen empires and have an friendly spiritualist empire in the gap. Did focused on research primarily but had to expand.

 

[superdeluxe]

and you spend years unlocking diplomacy tradition so you can get Federation with 5-6 empires where you have 140-150+ opinion

Only to have zero of these empires want to join Federation because of a -50 base negative Malus.

I even get positive malus from two empires because they are Federation Builders. 15+ opinion and 20+ for builders.

How do I get these federations going?!? That entire tradition is about Federations. Ugh

So after so serious effort, I was able to cobble together the 5 races into one Federation.

The first entry into the Federation was my neighbor, he was a military commisairt. He joined even though I did not allow wars of aggression. I changed my policies for my next target to allow unlimited wars, but the negative distance malus was still a problem.

The biggest break through was figuring out how to solve the distance issue, I found a spot next to the current federation member, and dropped in a outpost. (No border friction due to Federation). That solved the diantance issue and I added my second empire.

After 10 years was up, I changed my policy back to liberation wars and was able to add the 3rd empire, a democratic federation builder.

The fourth and final addition was a theocratic republic added by the democratic federation builder. In the meantime the first federation member changed from Military Commisart to a Democratic.

 

[Sandwchbull]

Pay them off, send minerals and energy. Manipulation at its finest. Works every time!

 

[EdSheppard]

and you spend years unlocking diplomacy tradition so you can get Federation with 5-6 empires where you have 140-150+ opinion

Only to have zero of these empires want to join Federation because of a -50 base negative Malus.

I even get positive malus from two empires because they are Federation Builders. 15+ opinion and 20+ for builders.

How do I get these federations going?!? That entire tradition is about Federations. Ugh

I love to play federation. On my current campaign in year 2250, I already have 3 federation members and the likeness is between 250+ and 330+.

They usually really start to get interested at 200 and above, but there's also other criteria you have to look for. One only wanted to join if I disallow attack wars. The other one disliked my allies and it took a while until they got warm with each other.

Bribes work really well, but you also should have a look which empires they dislike. A little rivaly with their enemies can boost the trust level immensely.

 

[superdeluxe]

So our smallest empire (5 planets, 60 ships) decides they want to declare War on an empire that has 150+ ships.

And do they spread around the loot to the other 4 members of the federation? NO. They keep all the loot for themselves.

I said, hell no, and now they dislike me for telling them no.

 

[FuzziSlippers]

So our smallest empire (5 planets, 60 ships) decides they want to declare War on an empire that has 150+ ships.

And do they spread around the loot to the other 4 members of the federation? NO. They keep all the loot for themselves.

I said, hell no, and now they dislike me for telling them no.

Remove them from the federation when you become the president, and declare war on them and keep all the loot for yourself. Kind of like how the United States conducts its foreign policy against nations that try doing the same illegal stuff it does.

 

[Andre The Magnificent]

So our smallest empire (5 planets, 60 ships) decides they want to declare War on an empire that has 150+ ships.

And do they spread around the loot to the other 4 members of the federation? NO. They keep all the loot for themselves.

I said, hell no, and now they dislike me for telling them no.

I agreed a defensive pact with the first and third most powerful empires.

I was playing Spiritualist and had my eyes on the fallen empires holy worlds. Following the Cybrex quest I discovered a ring world and started to save up to repair and colonise.

As one of my defense pact friendly empires settled on one of their holy worlds conflict would frequently ensure.

There were three separate wars between the spiritualist empires and the spiritual fallen empire. The first and second war I was involved in due to the pact. The aggressor ( the empire who colonised a holy world) would always claim four planets. The other empire wanted to humilate them. I would receive a single planet. Shortly after the second conflict got now where, I quit the pacts. On the third conflict they beat the fallen empire. I was so gutted. At that moment the Unbidden arrived and started stomping everyone. At that moment no holy worlds meant I quit the empire and started another.