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The Prince of Fire 1288-1312

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In the late thirteenth century the authorities of the Zoroastrian Church were growing increasingly concerned by the weakening of centralised power within the faith. Across the land a revived wave of Mazdakism was seeping its way into the lay folk and clergy alike, while in Mazandaran the strange heresy of Khurmatza flourished. It was in response to this crisis of authority that the Moabadan-Moabad Djamasp, alongside the emperor Mehrzad, sought to reinvigorate the religious unity of the Zoroastrians by reviving the idea of holy war. In 1288, Djamasp called upon the faithful to join together to form a new Gond-i-Ahura Mazda and march against the Christians of the west, just as their ancestors had done more than half a century before. The empire’s crown prince, the talented warrior Sina, would lead the enormous host assembled for this sacred war into the west to invade the Seplid Kingdom of Syria.

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The Syrians had little hope of resisting the Persians on their own, and sent out a call to their Orthodox Christian brethren for aid. This would be answered by the two most powerful Orthodox states in the region – Bulgaria and Kozar. The fighting would be fierce, bloody and long. Sina made initial quick progress, skilfully crossing the Syrian Desert at unexpectedly great speed by hoping from oasis to oasis and destroying much of the Syrian army before any aid could arrive. Victory appeared in hand. However, the imposing fortifications of Aleppo, Antioch and Bulgarian ruled Damascus prevented any quick triumph and forced the Persians to settle into lengthy sieges. This opened the way for Kozarian and Bulgarian armies to reach the battlefield – leading to a series of large and costly battles throughout the region.

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The conflict would remain in the balance, with both sides growing ever more weary as losses mounted, until the Kozarians withdrew their forces from the fighting in 1294 due to a rebellion at home. Even without one of the major players in the Christian alliance, the Zoroastrians were not victorious until 1296 – when the Bulgarians finally agreed a truce surrendering all Syria, including Damascus, over to the Persians. Sina had sealed his status as a heroic figure among the faithful.

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Contemporary to the Syrian War in the west, a final great wave of nomadic conquerors made their way to Central Asia. The successor Khanates to the short-lived Ilkhanate had been declining almost from their inception and would finally be destroyed by the Karluk migration. A distinctive Turkic people, the Karluks had been the dominant force on the Eurasian Steppe between the Ural and Altai Mountains since the eleventh century, outcompeting Cumans, Turkmen, Bolghars and even the Mongols themselves. In the late 1280s a faction of Karluks from the Steppe under the leadership of Boqi Togluqid, the younger brother of the Great Karluk Khan on the Steppe, invaded the Khiva Khanate. They brought with them not only thousands of warriors, but their livestock, their women and their children. The Karluks quickly overwhelmed their teetering Mongol rivals and established themselves as masters of all Transoxiania – with Boqi making himself Khan of the Southern Karluks.

The migratory element of the invasion brought about largescale and rapid demographic change. The Karluks largely settled in the eastern half of Transoxiania – around the fertile Fergana Valley. Turning much of the land to pasture, they forces large numbers of Iranian peoples to flee southwards. Those that remained would gradually be affected by the region’s wider Turkification. At the start of the century, Transoxiania had been largely Persian and Sogdian – by its end it had completed a culture shift to a new dominant Turco-Mongol culture, in which Turkmen, Mongols and Karluks led. Notably, this change led to the effective destruction of the ancient Sogdian culture – with the exactions of the thirteenth century claiming the lives of many, while Turkification for those who remained in the north and Persianisation for those who fled south leading the culture to extinction.

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The flight of refugees from Transoxiania badly destabilised the already weak Khorosan Khanate. In a weakened and chaotic state the Mongols were beset by predatory Persian attacks from the Koohdashtids in the west, who capture the important city of Merv, and a Pashtun revolt in the east headed by the tribal leader Anwaaraddin. By 1297 the Khanate had been completely destroyed, ending Mongol rule in Central Asia. The Zoroastrian Afghan state established in the east of its old territories enjoyed its independence for a further decade, before its Shah swore allegiance to the Persian Shahanshah in an effort to stem the incessant raiding of the Karluks following a destructive sack of Kabul. In the years after gaining a degree of security by joining with Baghdad, the Pashtuns expanded Persia’s borders southwards – conquering all the way to Makran on the Arabian Sea.

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Having caused significant cultural and geopolitical change in the region, the final great consequence of the Karluk invasion was religious, for the Karluks were followers of the religion of Manichaeism. This distinctive faith traced its origins back to the prophet Mani, who grew up in a Gnostic Christian sect in third century Sassanian Mesopotamia and travelled widely, most notably to India. In its famously dualist world-view it syncretised teachings from Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Buddhism and Gnosticism among others – placing Mani as the fourth great prophet after Zoroaster, the Buddha and Jesus.

For a time it flourished as a genuinely global religion in Late Antiquity – winning many followers in the Persian and Roman Empire, none more famous than St Augustine of Hippo who converted to Christianity from the Manichean faith. Political repression by Roman, Christian, Zoroastrian and later Muslim powers led to its decline into obscurity in these historic heartlands over the following centuries. Indeed, in the ninth century the Yamag, the Manichaean Patriarchate, was forced to relocate from its traditional Babylonian base to Samarqand, where the faith still had some following among the Sogdians of the Fergana Valley, marking its effective demise in western Eurasia.

However, by this point the religion had already found a new following in the east. Having attracted many converts in China, Manichaeism was adopted as the official religion of the powerful Uyghur Khanate in the eighth century. Although this empire collapsed less than a hundred years later, Manichaeism had established itself as key part of the Steppe’s religious milieu. The Karluks adopted the religion around the tenth century, and over time it grew to become inseparably associated with their ethnic identity – with many making the pilgrimage to Samarqand to receive the wisdom of the Yamag – with Samanid, Persian and Mongol empires all willingly tolerating the Manichaean High Priest’s presence in the city in hopes of using it as leverage to control their northern neighbour.

Despite the survival of the Yamag in Samarqand, Manichaeism had been a largely forgotten religion in the Persian world for centuries. The Karluk invasion changed this definitively. Sincere in their piety, and inspired by a missionary ethos they won over significant interest Persians who would carry the religion south into Khorosan where it would plant the seeds for a popular religious revolution in the Persian east – rejecting the distance power of the Zoroastrian clerics in Baghdad in favour of the Religion of Light.

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One of the greatest projects of Shahanshah Mehrzad’s long reign was the reconstruction of the imperial capital in Baghdad. The glorious city of the Islamic golden age had been destroyed and significantly depopulated by the Mongols – leaving behind an empty shell of ruins inhabited by a shrunken citizenry. Mehrzad hoped to restore the grandeur of old with huge investments in building projects and the forcible resettlement of tens of thousands into the city. This led to the importation of a large numbers of ethnic Persians from east of the Zagros Mountains, who transformed what had been a sizeable minority of the city’s population into a plurality by the end of the century.

Alongside the Persianisation of the Arab world’s greatest city, its Jewish population began a precipitous climb. Baghdad had long been one of the most important centres of Sephardic Judaism and Jews, without the connection to foreign powers associated with other religions, had maintained a comfortable relationship with Zoroastrianism since the time of Cyrus the Great. As such, the Persians offered safe haven as the attitudes of the Christian powers of the eastern Mediterranean soured, with repression and expulsions becoming a greater danger than they had been for generations, particularly in the former lands of the Byzantine Empire. Baghdad would act as a magnet for those fleeing east from the Christian world – establishing itself the largest Jewish city in the world. Their presence was particularly encouraged by the Shahanshah, who saw the Jews as a vital component in the commercial revival of Baghdad and the wider Mesopotamian region.

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Mehrzad passed away peacefully in 1298, allowing his martially gifted son Sina to take on the reigns of power. Leading the imperial army, the new sovereign sought to use his military power more assertively than his father had done in an effort to strengthen the power of the crown. In his first decade in power he put down major Christian and Muslim Arab rebellions in Syria and Iraq respectively. In 1306, he intervened to protect his vassals in the recently created Syrian Satrapies from being overwhelmed by a Christian counterattack. This war had been brought about by a botched attempt by the western lords to invade Greek-ruled Cilicia. Not only had they been defeated in the treacherous mountain passes, they had encouraged the Kozarians to join with a coalition of Greek states to invade Syria itself – threatening Antioch and Aleppo and capturing numerous smaller settlements. Only with the arrival of Sina’s army were these attempts fended off and a truce agreed.

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Yet Sina had ambitions beyond defending the empire he had inherited from his father – he desired great conquests of his own and saw his opportunity in the north where tensions with the Karluks had been running for some time. In 1310 he crossed over into Transoxiania with a large army and proceeded to storm Samarqand and Bukkhara. With the Karluks in disarray, Sina met their Khan at a great battle near Samarqand in 1311. There, the warrior king was cut down while his army was ultimately victorious. In Baghdad, the Shah’s brother Gholam assumed the imperial diadem and moved to secure a peace with the Karluks in 1312 that saw them give up the largest part of their Khanate – ceding Dihistan in the west and the rich Fergana Valley, including the Manichaean holy city of Samarqand itself, in the east.
 
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Grand conquests in the west and the east, and an unfortunately fairly brief reign for one of our most talented monarchs in many generations. And to top it all of an introduction to the Karluks and Manichaeans!

In game, the Karluks conquered Mongol Transoxiania and settled it. Since they had a massive nomadic realm they conquered a large number of provinces - basically everything east of Khiva within Transoxiania. In doing so they wiped out the Sogdian culture and a big chunk of Persian cultured provinces. As for their religion - it is set to contribute to this swirling mix of religious questioning going on in the Persian world that has already seen the solidity of Orthodox Zoroastrianism waver.

A new power rises in Anatolia...

And problems emerge within the Zoroastrian faith.

Also, the Persian state is becoming very Holy Roman. Let's hope that some semblance of authority can be renewed.

New rivals all around - in the west the Kozarians challenge our desires to push our borders forward, in the east the followers of Mani push their faith forward while internally central authority is still fragile in both religion and politics.

Being sawn in half from the head down... Yikes! :eek: Though I imagine it is very slightly edged out in brutality by being sawn in half from the bottom up...

The turmoil of the Mongol conquest and collapse has caused quite the churn among the regional powers. The Kozars will definitely be worth keeping an eye on -- they appear fit to step into the place the Byzantines once took as Persia's great western rival if they keep expanding at the same pace.

In searching for images for the update I came across that one and couldn't resist including!

Its amazing just how quickly the Mongol states have been swept away. The Rum Khanate was actually the last to go - only losing its very last province right at the end of the century. Even the original 'Mongol Empire' in the east is gone by this point. As for the Kozars, time will tell how successful they will be in establishing themselves as a major player capable of taking on the Byzantine mantle. Perhaps Tblisi shall be the Third Rome?

Wow, Kozar is really a unique state, I hope we can see them in EU4, if of course, Persia does not run over them in the rest of CK2.

It is a fascinating realm - and that story narrative is pretty much exactly how it happened in game. Georgia was inherited by a Khazar nobility that religious and culturally took on their subjects characteristics but kept than Kozar name. A whole bunch of territories in the north caucuses do indeed have Armenian culture for some reason (well beyond where the Armenian state ever had a presence) and over time the Kozar elite do take on a Greek culture.

Let us see if they can survive in the long run now they are emerging as such a clear rival to resurgent Persia!
 
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This rollercoaster keeps giving!
 
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Awesome to see the Persian Empire back in action. Looks like they're getting close to restoring the old borders, if not surpassing them.
 
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The Last Sons of Sasan 1312-1329
The Last Sons of Sasan 1312-1329

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Gholam bore greater resemblance to his long-lived father Mehrzad than he did his swashbuckling brother Sina. A pious man, close to the High Priesthood, he took forward his predecessor’s ambition to rebuild Baghdad into a grand city befitting a mighty empire. His contribution to this task would be the construction of the tallest tower in the world. The foundations of the project had been laid decades before by his father, but it was Gholam who poured in resources and energies to bring it to completion. In 1318 his great work was completed, unveiled as the Tower of Zurvan, to serve as the greatest fire temple in Zoroastrianism – reaching towards the very heavens themselves like a Medieval Babel, it loomed over the entire city. Through the Tower, and the many other building projects carried out over recent decades in the capital, the Persian monarchy had expended vast resources that could not be supported by the crown alone. This drove Gholam deeper into a conflict with the empire’s powerful magnates.

During the 1320s, Persia’s steady expansion continued. In eastern Anatolia, the lords of the northwestern borderlands renewed their efforts to push into the former territories of the Byzantine Empire – gaining new lands in Cilicia and Armenia. In the south meanwhile, Persia stretched its grasp into the Arabian Desert, as its influence reached out towards the Islamic holy cities of the Hedjaz.

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Since the liberation from the Mongols, Persia’s great nobles had paid next to nothing towards the treasury, acted as a law into themselves, wielded independent foreign and even religious policies within their domain and paid little head to the authority of Baghdad. Although occasionally uniting in a shared mission – most notably the conquest of Syria and defeat of the Karluks – they had only ever done so by choice, never by duty or obligation. Gholam hoped to reign the excesses of the magnates’ power and bring a degree of coherence to the realm through a series of administrative reforms that would enhance central authority. As was to be expected, Gholam was frustrated and resisted from the outset by the powerful Satraps and sub-Shahs, with relations between the crown and upper nobility steadily worsening through the decade. Ultimately, this collision course led Gholam to his death as he joined the long list of Persian emperors to have been murdered before his time – as he was drowned while sailing on the Euphrates by a member of his own personal guard, believed to be in the pay of the nobles in 1319.

Gholam’s death was an existential threat to the Persian society of the post-Mongol period. After generations of inbreeding, not least between Gholam and his own wife – a half sister, the Bavandid line was riddled with malignant congenital traits. Ever dwindling fertility had been one of these problems, leaving just a single surviving male member of the dynasty’s primary line – Gholam’s teenage son Rostam. Worse, Rostam was of feeble mind and would never have the ability to govern in his own right or carry on his line. Despite his ascension, the Persian throne was, in practice, vacant. The Moabadan-Moabad, Reza III, moved quickly to establish control of Rostam’s government – seeking to carry on the legacy of his father in promoting a revival of Baghdad’s authority in secular and religious matter alike. Yet with an obvious power vacuum opening, this position was not to be accepted without dispute.

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Persia quickly fell into a complex multi-sided struggle for power. At the centre of the conflict, three figures claimed the right to the imperial throne. In the centre, the sitting Shahanshah Rostam faced powerful rivals at either end of his realm. In the east Shahab Koohdashtid, now styled as the Shah of Khorosan, sought to accomplish the destiny of his dynasty that had been the leading force behind the defeat of the Mongol successor-Khanates in the previous century by establishing himself as emperor.

On the other side of the empire, a rather more unusual coalition gathered around the person of Peroz Babakid. The Shah of Mosul, he held large swathes of land in Assyria, Armenia and the Zagros under his personal control. But what propelled him towards power was faith and ideology. Peroz had adopted the ideas of the new wave of Mazdaki thinkers who had been advancing within the Zoroastrian Church for decades. Although not a revolutionary in the mould of his Tullid predecessors, Peroz maintained the traditional Mazdaki egalitarian ethos, was deeply hostile to the power of the High Priesthood and a strong centralised state and loudly voiced his support for religious tolerance in an increasingly diverse realm. With this message he attracted a powerful faction of misfits to his banner: Zoroastrian Mazdakis like himself, Kurdish Tullid Mazdaks, Assyrian Christians, Armenians – particularly the Oriental Orthodox followers of the traditional Apostolic Church that rejected the Eastern Orthodox mainstream, Khurmatza Mazandaran Mongols and Muslim Arabs and Lurs.

The conflict was further layered in complexity by three major revolts that would take place through the ensuing years of conflict. In the east, the Pashtuns, only having recently sworn loyalty to Baghdad, sought to restore their independence. In the west, Gholam’s death had acted as a trigger for a large popular uprising among Eastern Orthodox Christians – beginning among Greeks in Edessa, but quickly spreading to Arabs and Armenians throughout the western fringe of the empire. Finally, during the early 1320s Muslim Bedouin in the depths of the Arabian Desert began to gather behind the banner of Jihad – seeking to cast out the Christian and Zoroastrian occupiers who had conquered the heart of the Muslim world.

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In the west, the opening phase of the war was led by the Christian rebellion sparking out of Edessa. Peroz Babakid led the majority of his army west from Mosul and joined with the local Persian nobility in Syria to put down the separatist rebel threat in a typically vicious campaign. The Babakids had hoped that this action would win the loyalty of their western flank, yet relations with the Syrian lords began to sour even before the Christian revolt had been put down. The Syrian nobility mostly consisted of the sons of the pious warriors who had followed Prince Sina in the Syrian Holy War at the end of the previous century, and as such were on the whole devoted adherents of Orthodoxy and the Moabadan-Moabad. As such, they could not tolerate the heterodoxy of the Babakids. Nonetheless, the Babakid army was far stronger than that of the Syrian lords, and they successfully established their control over the region during the first years of the war. Elsewhere, Peroz’s Mazandaran Mongol allies spearheaded an invasion of the Rostamite Caucasian lands of Azerbaijan and Derbent – slowing taking control over the mountainous territory. These efforts established the Babakids as masters of the entire north western portion of the empire.

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Rostamite resistance to these conquests were limited as the High Priestly faction faced so many other threats elsewhere. Chief among these was Shahab Koohdashtid, the Shah of Khorosan. Within the many interlocking dramas of this period was a familial dispute within the powerful Koohdashtid dynasty. Shahab’s younger brother Kamran, who ruled as Satrap in the family’s ancestral homeland of Fars had denounced his brother’s revolt and instead sworn his loyalties to Rostam and Reza III. Enraged, Shahab ignored the probing raids of the Pashtuns on his own eastern flank to march some forty thousand men into the heart of Persia – capturing and plundering his brother’s princely seat at Shiraz, slaying him and finding many new allies among his kin in Fars.

With Shahab positioned imposing in the imperial heartland, he appeared to be an existential threat to the imperial faction. The Moabadan-Moabad therefore took the extraordinary step of taking on the leadership of the Rostamite army himself, and crossing the Zagros to confront the Khorosanis in battle. He had hoped that the Koohdashtids would not dare face down their spiritual sovereign on a field of battle. This proved a grave miscalculation. Shahab met Reza in a decisive battle near the ruins of ancient Persepolis and delivered a catastrophic blow to the Rostamites – slaughtering untold thousands of the High Priest’s men and sending them scattering them.

Although Shahab now appeared to have all of Persia open to him, his home territories in Khorosan were being ravaged by the Pashtuns – who had already sacked Merv, Samarqand and Balkh. Having battered the Rostamites into a weak position, he felt confident to return to the east to deal with the Pashtuns. The struggle in Khorosan carried on until 1324, when Shahab agreed a truce with the Pashtun Shah – recognising his independence in exchange for peace and the aid of several thousand Pashtun fighters to support his claim to the Persian crown.

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While Persia fractured into three competing blocks, the Arabian Desert was aflame with the zeal of holy war. Following radical Islamic preachers, the Bedouin united behind the Jabirid clan to first push the Persians out of the desert oases in the centre of Arabian, and then the Christians from the sacred cities of Medina and Mecca in the Hedjaz. By the middle of the 1320s, the Jihadis had turned their attention eastward once more – seeking an outlet to the Persian Gulf. They made numerous efforts to capture Qatar and Bahrain, only being repulsed by the strength of the Persian fleet, while also attempting to besiege the important city of Basra, that guarded the trade flowing from the Euphrates and Tigris into the Gulf. Ultimately, these efforts were unsuccessful, yet they provided an unwelcome distraction and threat for the Rostamites who faced them down.

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Back in the west, by 1324, five years of fighting had left the Babakids in a strong position. In that year Peroz’s bid for power would take a dramatic turn as he brought a large army southwards from Mosul towards the seat of imperial power in Baghdad. Fearing likely defeat and the capture of the Shahanshah, the royalists spirited Rostam and his courtly elite away from the capital and on a treacherous journey through Zagros. In the mountains, bands of Babakid-aligned Kurdish and Luri tribesmen harassed and pursued the royal party, desperate to claim the prize of the emperor as a captive, but were ultimately unable to stop them from reaching the safety of Isfahan – where Rostam joined the Moabadan-Moabad.

Even with the flight of the Shahanshah, Baghdad remained a well defended and fortified city that could likely hold out against attack for years. However, Peroz had a number of spies within the capital and concocted a plot alongside a group of Assyrians to open one of the city’s main gates – allowing the Babakids to swarm into the capital and overwhelm its defenders.

Despite the allegiance of a number of key minorities, the Babakids met with a hostile reception from the deeply Orthodox Zoroastrian majority – both Arab and Persian – while also being met with suspicion by the Jews, who had long been closely aligned to the Bavandids. Serious rioting in the weeks after the fall of the city for a time forced the Babakid forces to withdraw to the city’s citadel, before they unleashed a spate of massacres against the civilian population in an effort to restore order, damaging the recently rebuilt city.

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Baghdad’s fall sparked indignation among the Orthodox Zoroastrian community, sparking an unspoken truce between the Khorosanis and Rostamites. Indeed, the fall of Baghdad had been a key driver in Shahab’s decision to accept Pashtun secession, so that he might bring the bulk of his force back westward. Bypassing the Rostamites, now increasingly isolated in the Jibal region around the cities of Isfahan, Tehran and Qom, Shahab invaded Mesopotamia and, after winning a major battle near Najaf in 1325, brought Baghdad under siege. The Babakid defence was better organised than the Rostamites had been, but nonetheless, Shahab triumphantly captured the city in 1326 – forcing the Babakids back towards Mosul.

Despite this victory, the Koohdashtid army had left itself exhausted and isolated so far from his home territories. This situation was worsened as the Babakids refocussed their energies on tightening their stranglehold over the Zagros – in effect building a cage for their enemies within Iraq. Realising this dangerous situation, Shahab attempted to reopen the path through the mountains by force of arms – meeting his rival for the throne, Peroz, in battle at Ilam in 1327. Although the fighting itself was somewhat inconclusive, Shahab himself was killed during the battle. Without their leader, the Koohdashtid army began to splinter, with many reluctant to keep fighting under the banner of his less inspiring son Khosrau. Baghdad was recaptured by the Babakids later that year as their opposition started to felt away and in 1328 the emperor himself, Rostam was captured in Isfahan as the Babakids began to overwhelm central Persia.

With the Rostamite faction falling away, the High Priest Reza III fled eastward with the remnants of his army and made common cause with those Koohdashtids who remained in the field – forming a united opposition to the heretical Babakids, and accepting Khosrau now that Rostam was in enemy hands. These acts of desperation were ultimately fruitless, as by now the momentum of the Babakids was unstoppable. As his armies poured into Khorosan in 1329, Peroz quickly overwhelmed the territory and forced his enemies to submit once and for all.

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At the end of the year, Peroz orchestrated a humiliating ceremony in which Rostam formally surrendered his titles and any claim to imperial authority and the defeated lords of the east each in turn kissed his feet and swore their undying allegiance to the new Shahanshah. Worst of all, High Priest Reza was forced to place the imperial crown on the head of his enemy, just as his predecessor had crowned Vandad following the defeat of the Mongols in 1260, and join the lords in supplicating himself to his new master – making clear his inferiority in rank to the new emperor. Peroz then walked out among the common soldiery of his army - Zoroastrians, Mazdaks, Christians and Muslims - to be hailed as their Shahanshah. After a decade of warfare, Persia was at peace once more with a new emperor and a new dynasty – the blood of Sasan having finally run dry. Despite the ructions of these years, Peroz inherited an empire that was still largely intact – despite the loss of territory in central Arabia and the Pashtun lands around Kabul and Makran. With his deeply felt belief in Mazdaki-inspired ideas of religious tolerance, egalitarianism and decentralisation but the reputation of a brutal warlord and usurper after his conquest of the empire, Peroz was a frightening and enigmatic to many who feared a return to the chaotic era of the Mazdaki Wars two centuries before.
 
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A slightly longer update, I hope I captured some of the swirling chaos of this remarkable period of the game and Persian history. As I hope you could see from the screenshot of the map of rebellions - I hardly needed dramatic license for this one!

We now have a new dynasty, but with a return towards the ideas of Mazdakism, there remains a lot of uncertainty ahead.

Holy shit, if this is how it goes in the long run then Persia should get conquered more often

We managed to reach a position under the Bavandids where our powerful vassals could easily defeat most of our neighbours - with the Byzantines gone and the Mongol successor states a shadow of their predecessors. That helped us expand at striking speed - but of course stowed up some major issues that we have just been confronted with. We've lost a fair whack of land - especially on the eastern frontier. But now at peace again we will see if we can restore that momentum we had in the late 13th and early 14th centuries.

This rollercoaster keeps giving!

And it certainly hasn't slowed down in this last period of chaotic and brutal civil war! With a new religious divide opening up, the prospects of a placid and stable existence aren't too strong either :eek:.

Awesome to see the Persian Empire back in action. Looks like they're getting close to restoring the old borders, if not surpassing them.

We came very close to restoring those pre-Mongol boundaries (and even had more land than the first Bavandid empire in the western fringe) before the civil war broke out. It is now a very open question of whether that momentum can be regained.
 
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Heretics at the helm, and heretics bent on decentralization no less. :eek: The empire needs a strong central government, hopefully the next ruler can figure that out.
 
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Well, getting a new computer up to speed and the recent uselessness of the alert function (even more than normal, for me anyway) led me to fall behind a bit, but I’m back up to date again. Casting back a little …
We are free again!
Hurrah! The Mongols are like a lingering bad dream.
Indeed, the new soveriegn, Mehrzad, represented the last surviving male member of the dynasty
This is getting dangerous - or will you switch to a new dynasty for the sake of the story?
Even without one of the major players in the Christian alliance, the Zoroastrians were not victorious until 1296 – when the Bulgarians finally agreed a truce surrendering all Syria, including Damascus, over to the Persians. Sina had sealed his status as a heroic figure among the faithful.
A hard fought war but a well-earned reward. Can Sina carry it forward when he comes into his own? And he needs some heirs as well - the dynasty is getting thin.
This must have been gratifying to see. But of course, this being Persia, it would be ransacked again within a generation!
There, the warrior king was cut down while his army was ultimately victorious. In Baghdad, the Shah’s brother Gholam assumed the imperial diadem and moved to secure a peace with the Karluks in 1312 that saw them give up the largest part of their Khanate – ceding Dihistan in the west and the rich Fergana Valley, including the Manichaean holy city of Samarqand itself, in the east.
The perils of the leader commanding in the field, without having properly ensured his inheritance. Ah well, such is life.
an unfortunately fairly brief reign for one of our most talented monarchs
Live and die by t he sword, as it is said.
In searching for images for the update I came across that one and couldn't resist including!
A classic! And it fits the vibe well ;)
Ultimately, this collision course led Gholam to his death as he joined the long list of Persian emperors to have been murdered before his time – as he was drowned while sailing on the Euphrates by a member of his own personal guard, believed to be in the pay of the nobles in 1319.
The dynasty does seem rather cursed: murder, disease, battlefield death, invasion, civil war, inbreeding and infertility: in a way it is surprising it lasted this long.
Ever dwindling fertility had been one of these problems, leaving just a single surviving male member of the dynasty’s primary line – Gholam’s teenage son Rostam. Worse, Rostam was of feeble mind and would never have the ability to govern in his own right or carry on his line.
In comes to this … how quickly it all fell apart again. :(
Yet with an obvious power vacuum opening, this position was not to be accepted without dispute.
Obviously! :D
Within the many interlocking dramas of this period was a familial dispute within the powerful Koohdashtid dynasty.
True to form. Complex sub-division is not just a mathematical thing.
After a decade of warfare, Persia was at peace once more with a new emperor and a new dynasty – the blood of Sasan having finally run dry.
So I guess this answers my earlier question: you’ll switch to the new dynasty to see it through?
A slightly longer update, I hope I captured some of the swirling chaos of this remarkable period of the game and Persian history.
It was a dramatic tale, well told. :)
We now have a new dynasty, but with a return towards the ideas of Mazdakism, there remains a lot of uncertainty ahead.
Haha, Uncertainty Ahead could be the motto of the Zoroastrian Persian Empire! :D
 
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I admit that I was all the reading supporting Shabab, it sounds really good that the descendants of the bandit king ended up being kings of persia, but hey, going back to a mazdaki king is not so bad either, but the state looks to be very unstable
 
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That island of stability was all too short-lived, and once more civil war tears the mighty Persian Empire asunder. Peroz may have made it to the top of the heap for now, but I have a feeling that the orthodox faction still has some bite left.
 
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A new dynasty eh? Let's see if they can keep Persia together, especially since we're about just a few more decades away before Timurlane appears
 
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Sina's glory was very short-lived. I wonder if historians will wonder what would've been if Sina had lived.

A new dynasty reigns, and Islam seems resurgent.

Decentralization could still destroy Persia, though...
 
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Let a Thousand Flowers Bloom 1329-1345
Let a Thousand Flowers Bloom 1329-1345

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Peroz II, ironically sharing a name with the last successful usurper of a Persian dynasty, had been propelled to power with grand visions of reforming Iranian society and religion. Like the twelfth century Tullid Mazdaks, Peroz held certain egalitarian beliefs regarding the plight of the lower classes. Yet unlike them, social change did not form the central part of his political project – with his material offer to poor extending little beyond small social programmes to offer bread to the hungry and needy at the cost of the treasury.

His real focus was religion. The greatest project was to bring about change in the Zoroastrian Church – taking advantage of the poor he held over Moabadan-Moabad Reza III following his military victory over him. Peroz and his allies had three primary aims – to neuter the overmighty High Priesthood - reducing it to little more than a ceremonial role, to regionalise the institution, and promote their own philosophy throughout Zoroastrianism.

Over the course of the next decade the structures of the church were significantly decentralised – with the authority to appoint clerical offices taken away from the High Priest. Instead, power would flow upwards from the grassroots Magi who would have the authority to elect regional religious authorities that in turn oversaw affairs within their domain. These changes allowed the Mazdaki faction of the Zoroastrian Church to become dominant in Assyria, the Zagros and parts of the south east around Kerman and the north west around Hamadan. Elsewhere, traditionalist Mobads tended to hold true to more conservative instincts. Further to these structural changes, Peroz orchestrated a council of senior Mobads, aping similar gatherings that had taken place to condemn heresy after the Mazdaki Wars, that reconsidered the heterodoxy of figures such as Mazdak, Tuli and the Khurmatza philosopher Firuz – opening the door to their acceptance in the Zoroastrian canon.

Alongside his changes to Zoroastrianism, the new Shahanshah was a close ally of Persia’s many religious minorities – in particular Tullid Mazdaks, Muslims, Assyrian Nestorians and Armenian Oriental Orthodox Christians. Having fought closely alongside them during the civil war, and believing them to be more trustworthy than the Zoroastrian majority among whom he had many enemies, Peroz surrounded himself with cliques drawn from these groups through which he administered his great empire. Issue a decree of toleration, he moved to remove all existing legal restrictions on the empire’s religious minorities – which included limits on their ability to build new Churches, Mosques and Fire Temples, specific taxes, limitation on movement within the empire and participation in certain occupations. Alongside these, and in contrast to most of his predecessors who had been happy to turn a blind eye, he harshly punished perpetrators of religious violence against minority groups.

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Peroz notably shunned the splendour of the palaces of New Ctesiphon and the splendour of Baghdad - who's very physical features were so associated with the Bavandids after their extensive rebuilding. Instead, he maintained his court in the comparatively modest surrounds of Mosul. This was in part a symbolic rejection of those that had come before him, and of the worldliness of a city that had been lavished with the riches of empire and massive state investment during the Second Bavandid Empire. But the move served practical purposes too. Firstly, it separated the Shahanshah was a hostile city in which he had infamously been forced to unleash brutal violence in order to control during the civil war and placed him in friendly surrounds, close to his key allies in Assyria, Armenian Tabriz and the Kurdish heartland in the northern Zagros. Finally, the physical distance between the emperor and Baghdad further separated the High Priesthood from access to secular power and the ability to participate in courtly games of influence and intrigue – serving the Shahanshah’s wider political project.

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Far away from Mesopotamia, the Persian east was undergoing revolutionary religious change. At a time when the confidence of old was ebbing out of Zoroastrianism, a faith increasingly muddled and at odds with itself, growing over-intellectualised in the midst of its theological onanism, there was an alternative emanating out of Samarqand. Having been stimulated into a wave of evangilism by the Karluk invasions of Transoxiania at the end of the previous century, the Manicheans offered the eastern Persians purity of soul, certainty in light and dark and a greater understanding and sensitivity to their culture and interests than the arrogant elites of the distant west ever could. The freedoms offered to minority sects by Peroz allowed the Manicheans to accelerate their activity – winning over entire communities at once as the electrified the east in a pious revival. By Peroz’s death, Manichaeism had established itself as the majority religion in the Persian-speaking lands west of Kabul, the revival having had little impact on the Pashtuns, as far west as Herat.

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While Peroz spent the majority of his reign at peace, focussing on reforming his empire from within after the exactions of a costly civil war, he did embark on one major military campaign abroad. This was the Palestinian War of 1333 to 1338 that pitted Persia against the Bulgarian Empire for control over the Christian Holy Land. Unlike many of the other religions of the Near East and Europe, for Zoroastrians, Jerusalem and its surrounds held little religious significance – particularly in comparison to sites in the Iranian Plateau, Mesopotamia and Central Asia. However, the same could not be said for the millions of Christians, Jews and Muslims under Persian rule. The trigger for Persian intervention in Palestine was a spate of pogroms directed by Bulgarian authorities in the Holy Land aimed against Jewish and Muslim minorities. As elders from these communities looked to Mosul for aid and protection, the only power capable of opposing Orthodox power in the region, the Shahanshan sensed an opportunity to drive the Bulgarians out of the Levant once and for all.

Peroz personally led a sprawling invasion force into the Holy Land – overwhelming Christian defences with relative ease and capturing Jerusalem itself in 1334. The loss of the holy city was deeply disturbing to Christendom and the Bulgarians successfully attracted a coalition of Greek states, to outfit an expedition aimed at reclaiming it. This holy war was troubled from the first. With the Persians controlling the Cilician Gates, the cohort of the Christian army that travelled overland through Anatolia found itself unable to overcome an entrenched Persian defence and turned away before even reaching the Syria, let alone Palestine. Meanwhile, the portion of the Christian army that arrived by sea was not large enough on its own to realistically reconquer Jerusalem – facing a major defeat at Acre before most of its leaders fled to Egypt, leaving the Persians in safe control over the entire Levant.

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Although Iran enjoyed a period of internal peace during Peroz II’s reign, the empire had continued its trend over the preceding decades of growing ever more diffuse and regionalised. The Babakid court in Mosul was dominated by the Shahanshah’s non-Persian retainers from his home region, presenting little reason or opportunity for the nobility to gather in the capital rather than consolidate palaces in their own home regions. Equally, once unifying forces like the Zoroastrian Church were pulling apart. This decentralisation had made it easier for Peroz to maintain peace following the civil war – with his many Traditionalist enemies unable to cooperate effectively – yet it also gravely loosened the grip of the imperial crown over the realm. When the Shahanshah died in 1345 following a hunting accident, the Babakids were unable to secure the support of the provinces for the ascension of his son Amin to the imperial throne. After less than two decades of peace, Persia was entering another protracted civil war.
 
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The Babakids have begun their experiment in religious pluralism and night watchman state. We have the Manicheans hiving off hundreds of thousands of Zoroastrian believers in the east, new conquests in the west and now yet another civil war.

Heretics at the helm, and heretics bent on decentralization no less. :eek: The empire needs a strong central government, hopefully the next ruler can figure that out.

A time of nightmares for many! :eek: Despite his crushing victory in the previous civil war, Peroz did not focus on building a strong central state. Let us see if this decision will cost his family their hard fought crown.

Well, getting a new computer up to speed and the recent uselessness of the alert function (even more than normal, for me anyway) led me to fall behind a bit, but I’m back up to date again. Casting back a little …

Hurrah! The Mongols are like a lingering bad dream.

This is getting dangerous - or will you switch to a new dynasty for the sake of the story?

A hard fought war but a well-earned reward. Can Sina carry it forward when he comes into his own? And he needs some heirs as well - the dynasty is getting thin.

This must have been gratifying to see. But of course, this being Persia, it would be ransacked again within a generation!

The perils of the leader commanding in the field, without having properly ensured his inheritance. Ah well, such is life.

Live and die by t he sword, as it is said.

A classic! And it fits the vibe well ;)

The dynasty does seem rather cursed: murder, disease, battlefield death, invasion, civil war, inbreeding and infertility: in a way it is surprising it lasted this long.

In comes to this … how quickly it all fell apart again. :(

Obviously! :D

True to form. Complex sub-division is not just a mathematical thing.

So I guess this answers my earlier question: you’ll switch to the new dynasty to see it through?

It was a dramatic tale, well told. :)

Haha, Uncertainty Ahead could be the motto of the Zoroastrian Persian Empire! :D

Glad to have you back aboard! :D

It was something of a sad end for the Bavandids in that their numbers essentially dwindled to nothing, mostly as a result of all those divine marriages. It was perhaps something of a miracle that we got someone with the talents of Sina before the end!

I did enjoy seeing various events feeding the narrative of Baghdad having this rebuilding process - prospering, and then having the great tower constructed, while going through the culture shift to Persian. In my eyes we're not talking about this strange little dot of Persian culture in an Arab sea, but the emergence of a real cosmopolitan city. In the V2 conversion (spoilers - I have played this game into V2!) I paid some attention to Baghdad in particular to capture that - with a Persian plurality, a large Arab population not far behind, large numbers of Jews, and smaller numbers of Assyrians, Kurds, Armenians and even Mandaeans.

I'm glad you enjoyed what might have been our biggest civil war yet that ushered in the end of the Bavandids. As for tag switching - I'll keep playing as whoever rules Persia (I was even the Ilkhanate in game for a little while before the liberation revolt broke out and I switched again to the rebels). So the AAR will carry on even if any particular family line dies out or falls from power.

I admit that I was all the reading supporting Shabab, it sounds really good that the descendants of the bandit king ended up being kings of persia, but hey, going back to a mazdaki king is not so bad either, but the state looks to be very unstable

You certainly called it right on the instability! Persian society had been a bubbling cauldron for some time now with various religious movements disrupting what was for a time before the Mongol conquest a stable order, we have large ethnic cleavages now (with many minorities within our borders), the nobility is divided between big regional magnates - each with the power of a moderately sized state in their own right and no one has the overarching prestige to hold everything together in the way the venerable Bavandid dynasty once did.

That island of stability was all too short-lived, and once more civil war tears the mighty Persian Empire asunder. Peroz may have made it to the top of the heap for now, but I have a feeling that the orthodox faction still has some bite left.

And before you could blink we are heading into yet another one! You are very much correct that the Orthodox traditionalists are far from done here. But that very hands off and decentralist approach that has left the Babakids will also be an asset by making it harder for their enemies to unite behind a single figure in the coming struggle. (Yes, we are heading into another multisided civil war!)

A new dynasty eh? Let's see if they can keep Persia together, especially since we're about just a few more decades away before Timurlane appears

A new steppe conqueror is certainly the last thing we need during this period of internal disquiet!

Sina's glory was very short-lived. I wonder if historians will wonder what would've been if Sina had lived.

A new dynasty reigns, and Islam seems resurgent.

Decentralization could still destroy Persia, though...

It has been a bit of a running theme in this AAR where my most effective rulers have tended to have their lives cut short, with only the occassional figure combing a long life and talented rulership - like Gholam the Lionheart. Especially after the period when we first established ourselves.

We are in a precarious situation here with the realm so decentralised (and most of the nobility rejecting the religious philosophy coming out of Mosul). With a new civil war coming already, the Babakids either need to decisively imprint their ideas on the empire, or they will continue to struggle to keep it under their grip.
 
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(spoilers - I have played this game into V2!)
Hold up. As in Victoria 2?

Well then, it pleases me to hear we've got oursevles a megacampaign!
 
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Although Iran enjoyed a period of internal peace during Peroz II’s reign, the empire had continued its trend over the preceding decades of growing ever more diffuse and regionalised.
He tried for Strength in Diversity.
Equally, once unifying forces like the Zoroastrian Church were pulling apart. This decentralisation had made it easier for Peroz to maintain peace following the civil war – with his many Traditionalist enemies unable to cooperate effectively – yet it also gravely loosened the grip of the imperial crown over the realm.
But got more diversity perhaps at the expense of central institutional strength.
When the Shahanshah died in 1345 following a hunting accident, the Babakids were unable to secure the support of the provinces for the ascension of his son Amin to the imperial throne. After less than two decades of peace, Persia was entering another protracted civil war.
An actual accident or ‘under suspicious circumstanes’? ;) Another civil war? A grand Persian tradition!
The Babakids have begun their experiment in religious pluralism and night watchman state. We have the Manicheans hiving off hundreds of thousands of Zoroastrian believers in the east, new conquests in the west and now yet another civil war.
As ever, a chaotic melting pot of rival military powers, religions and cultures. No wonder the rulers find it so hard to keep it all under control.
spoilers - I have played this game into V2!
I'll keep playing as whoever rules Persia
So the AAR will carry on even if any particular family line dies out or falls from power.
Huzzah!
We are in a precarious situation here with the realm so decentralised (and most of the nobility rejecting the religious philosophy coming out of Mosul). With a new civil war coming already, the Babakids either need to decisively imprint their ideas on the empire, or they will continue to struggle to keep it under their grip.
Sewed the wind, reaping the whirlwind.
 
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Also, the Persian state is becoming very Holy Roman. Let's hope that some semblance of authority can be renewed.
Crusader Kings, by design, is very Holy Roman. Hopefully CK3 could do something about a glaring lack of a bureaucracy.
 
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Oh dang another civil war huh? What a damn shame that one, and I think everything Peroz 2 built might come tumbling down amidst the chaos, coupled with a potential Crusade to retake the Holy Land by the Catholic world, and Timur's eventual arrival, it seems the Persians are in for another round of troubled times. By the way are you looking to do a world update? Would be nice to see how the rest of the world is fairing during this ongoing crisis.
 
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