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Tinto Maps #14 - 9th of August 2024 - Western Africa

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps, the day of the week for map nerds lovers! This week we will be taking a look at Western Africa! These lands were named historically in different ways, although probably the most widespread naming was Guinea, which also names the Gulf that makes for the southern limit of the region, with the Atlantic Ocean being to the west, the Sahara desert to the north, and the lands around Lake Chad making for the approximate eastern border.

With these regions, we’re also leaving the ‘Easy Mode Map-Making’ of Project Caesar, as getting comprehensive sources of information for 1337 for most of Sub-Saharan Africa is challenging, as the traditional historical record was oral, in contrast with the written records usual in Eurasia. In any case, we did our best to depict the rich history and geography of the region and its diversity, which is stunning. Let’s start, then!

Countries:
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The most important country, and one of the world's great powers, is the Empire of Mali, which in 1337 is at its zenit, still ruled by the infamous Mansa Mūsā. It controls not only the core lands of the Mandé-speaking peoples, but also holds the overlordship over Jolof, most of the fertile Niger river basin, and some of the most important Saharan outposts. To its south-east, the Mossi are organized in several polities (Ougadagou, Gwiriko, Yatenga, Boussouma, Tenkodogo, and Liptako). South into the coast, Kong, Dagbon, Bonoman, and Mankessim are polities ruled by the Dyula, the Dagbani, and the Akan (the last two). To the east, Fada N’gourma, Borgu, and Mamprugu connect with the lands of the Hausa, which rule from several city-states: Kebbi, Gobir, Zafara, Katsina, Daura, Kano, Rano, and Zazzau. Further to the east, the Empire of Kanem rules the lands around Lake Chad from its capital in Njimi, and over some of the Saharan corridors, making it the region's second wealthiest country. And finally, further to the south, there are the lands of the Nupe, the Yoruba (Oyo, Ife, Ijebu, Owo), the Edo (Benin), and the Igbo (Nri).

Dynasties:
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The dynasties of the region are a mix of well-known ones, such as the Keita of Mali, the Ndiaye of Jolof, or the Sayfawa of Kanem, and randomly generated ones for the rest of the polities, as we don’t have good enough sources on who was ruling over most of them in 1337.

Locations:
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The locations of Western Africa. We’ve tried our best to find suitable locations, correct naming, etc., although I’m sure there might be plenty of feedback to apply.

Provinces:
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Areas:
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Terrain:
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This week we have proper Terrain mapmodes at the release of the Tinto Maps… Not much to say about them, though, as the climate and vegetation are pretty straightforward, being divided into Arid and Tropical; while the vegetation goes from desert and sparse beside the Sahara, to increasingly more forested terrain, until reaching the tropical jungles by the coast. The topography is not very fragmented, with the Guinean Highlands and the Adamawa Plateau being the most important landmarks.

Natural Harbors:
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A new map mode this week, coming from the latest Tinto Talks! There are some decent natural harbors in the region, with Banana Islands (where Freetown would be founded), Elmina, and Calabar being the best ones.

Cultures:
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A beautiful map this week… I may repeat that we tried our best to approach the region, taking into account that this was the first African region we completed, around 3 years ago. When we review it, we may add some more diversity, as we have now some more tools than the ones we had back in time, but we think that it’s way best to read your feedback first, to make sure we are on the same page.

Religions:
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Take this map as very WIP. The Sunni-Animism division is kind of accurate, with the expected division for 1337 (Islam would later on advance more to the South, but we think this is the best for this date). What we have yet to do is to divide the ‘Animism’ population into some of the regional variants; we already have plenty of data, but we also want to read your feedback on this first.

Raw Materials:
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The goods of the region are quite diverse and very dependent on the geography. In the Saharan lands, there are plenty of locations with resources such as Salt, Copper, or Alum (regarding this resource, the lands to the north of Lake Chad make for the densest Alum hub in the world for 1337, something the historical sources talk about). Livestock is king in the Sahelian lands, while there are plenty of agricultural goods in the Niger river basin. The region is also full of luxury goods, of which Gold is the most relevant, as being the biggest supply of this metal to the Mediterranean and Europe in the Late Middle Ages, while also having others such as Ivory, Gems, or Spices (which in this region are portraying some goods such as kola nuts, or malagueta pepper). Finally, the coasts of the Gulf of Guinea have plenty of Fish. Maybe the only type of good that is not very abundant in the region is metals, as having some Iron, Tin, etc., but not much in comparison with other regions.

Markets:
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Markets of the region, have an interesting distribution. The most important ones in 1337 are Niani, Kano, and Njimi, which are also connected to the Northern African markets, making it possible to get plenty of wealth by exporting well-demanded goods throughout the Sahara (for instance, exporting Gold or Alum for good money is a very viable strategy ATM). Later on, after the Age of Discovery, the coastal markets may get connected to other markets, making them more relevant, and maybe switching the power balance of the region from the North to the South, as historically happened (but take it as a ‘maybe’, not for granted, OFC!).

Population:
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Population of the region. We’ve improved a bit our tracking of the population data, to avoid further problems like the one we had with Germany. I can tell you that the total population of Western Africa is around 5.6M people, which is divided into 2.2M for the Sahel, and 3.3M for the coast of Guinea. You may very well notice that the hegemonic power here may be Mali, with around 700k people, but also that there are many more people not living under the rule of a polity, than living under it, which will make for interesting gameplay on how to deal with it (more about this in a later Tinto Talks, soon…).

And, speaking of that, I have the sad news that next Friday there is a bank holiday here in Spain, so there won’t be a Tinto Maps. The next one will be on Friday 23rd, and we will be taking a look at Eastern Africa! Until then, you may still stay tuned, as we will be replying to feedback, as usual, and we may have some informal maps incoming. Cheers!
 
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I'm not an expert in the matter so feel free to call me out, I think some of these natural harbours should be boosted by just how "important" they look geographically and were historically, lagoons are usually some of the best placese for docking ships like in the case of Venice all the locations around the Lagos lagoon should have a way higher suitaibility, Sherbro Island, Cape Mount, Saint Louis and Goreè can also be inmproved considering their unique geographical features especially if you wanna include both the islands and the mainlaind in one location, you should also improve all the loacation around the estuaries of the Gambia and Geba rivers(the lower presence of salt in the water should slow down the rotting of the wood) and finally the loaction that rapresents today's city of Coankry should also be a somewhat decent port due to it's weird peninsula. Overall the western and eastern part of the coastline should be the ones with better suitaibility while the central part is by far the worst with some exeptions also try to improve the places where today's cities and commercial ports are built and of course where the Europeans built their trade posts since that's one of the reason why they where built there.
 
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I have a few questions.

How will the game represent the uncentralized tribes that organized states for themselves in Africa during the game's timeline? In 1337 West Africa lacks of some important regional players. In game terms, is possible for tagless locations to spawn a tag and is possible for the player play with these tags?
Examples of kingdoms that not yet exist in 1337 and are present in the map as tagless locations:
- Dahomey.
- Denkyra (named Ashanti in EU4).
- The multiple city-states in ports that emerged with the interaction between africans and europeans, city-states like Wydah and Calabar for example.

How will the game represent nomadic/pastoralist migrations that were extremely important for African geopolitics in game's time line? In West Africa the principal example would be the Fulani Wars.
Fulani migrations and wars are repreented by a regional "Situation"? How the game decided to represent the creation of new states caused by waves of fula immigrants as for example the Futa Jalom and Futa Tooro?

There are plans to represent Mali decadence and breakthrough in multiple states as Songhai, Kaabu, Segou/Bambara/Bamana?

More specifially about Benin, in the map it is represented as an unified kingdom, but in fact during the first half of XIV century Benin was a city in process of expansion against others town/villages of Edo culture.
I agree with you that would be extremely hard to represent Edo region as a multitude of independent villages but I think that the early game situation of Benin could be better represented as a kingdom with extremely low "Control" outside the capital and full of rebellious states, to better represent the historical process of Benin central government trying to centralize and govern Edo lands.

The Ardra/Allada kingdom was considered for representation in the map? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ardra
It would be located around the region where Dahomey emerged in the future.

Kotoko kingdom was considered? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotoko_kingdom

Jolof vassals web will be represented in game?

I will try to reread my sources and post most detaileds suggestions here tomorrow.
This is the kind of rough question that I was expecting for today... And that I can't fully answer yet, as there are some undisclosed features that we have to tackle in Tinto Talks first. But, in general terms, I can tell you that that we want to fully portray all the processes that you mention (and, also, that we want to make some according fixes to the setup).

Please poke me again on these topics in a couple of weeks, by the time of the Eastern African Tinto Maps. ;)
 
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Could there perhaps be a malaria gamerule? Such that if you wish to roleplay as a colonizer you can't send armies into inland Africa without suffering massive attrition, and thus are forced to engage in trade and diplomacy instead of conquest and subjugation. But if you instead wish to attempt your Austria 1473 one faith, you can turn it off and just blob.
We will talk about diseases in future Tinto Talks.
 
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Hey @Pavía I do have a question.

When you folks are doing these Tinto Maps and are using sources (and ask people to point out other sources), do you also look at the previous/later years for the details that could be used by other PDX Teams (for example for folks responsible for Victoria 3 or CK3)?
 
Will new kingdoms appear in the wasteland areas? I’m thinking especially of Dahomey which appears sometime in the 1700s.

As slave trading grows prominent, that should inspire new kingdoms to form in the wasteland areas, getting rich by raiding and enslaving their neighbors, right? It’s a bit odd to see such a densely populated area appear unpopulated.
 
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The begho market seems a bit superfluous as it’s very low province and population county.

Can you clarify how modern Sao Tome is split up? Is it all one location?

what is the context about Safewaya being non contiguous?
1. It works well with the current market access spread, and it also makes sense historically-wise.
2. It's only one location.
3. There's a non-ownable corridor between Kanem mainland and the area of Agadem and Bilda.
 
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It would be interesting if there was a slight – and by slight I mean minute – chance for Mansa Musa's predecessor, Mansa Muhammad, who had left on an expedition (according to Musa, at least) to at some point return with information about America, or even for there to be an independent Malian outpost on the Continent. I know it is be improbable, but I would argue that Columbus's discovery was also improbable. In fact, it could be a game rule, for those who want historical accuracy.
With ships of that time probably not..
 
Do we have slave trade mechanics in this region, to represent historical events? Will I be able to raid my neighbors and capture their population to sell them to Europeans for guns and powder?
 
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You seem to be missing the Tellem people in the Dogon country in Mali. They started being replaced by the Dogon, fleeing from the Mandé, in the 11th century but disappeared only around the 15th-16th century. They were noticeable for their unique practices and building settlements into cliffside. There should still be some Tellem minorities in Dogon, and maybe some minorities going south of Dogon as they reputedly did.
This paper references them:

Also would just like to reiterate that the population does seem low for West Africa. The Yoruba: A New History discusses the Ife city and its immediate proximity having a population of 70,000-105,000 in mid-14th century, wheras here it has 20,000. Same can be said for the other Yoruba provinces, they seem to be a bit low compared to what I'm used to seeing.
You seem to be missing the Tellem people in the Dogon country in Mali. They started being replaced by the Dogon, fleeing from the Mandé, in the 11th century but disappeared only around the 15th-16th century. They were noticeable for their unique practices and building settlements into cliffside. There should still be some Tellem minorities in Dogon, and maybe some minorities going south of Dogon as they reputedly did.
This paper references them:

Also would just like to reiterate that the population does seem low for West Africa. The Yoruba: A New History discusses the Ife city and its immediate proximity having a population of 70,000-105,000 in mid-14th century, wheras here it has 20,000. Same can be said for the other Yoruba provinces, they seem to be a bit low compared to what I'm used to seeing.
echoing this, it’s mentioned in African Dominion by Michael Gomez that during Songhai’s height, the populations of Gao, Timbuktu, and Jenne “potentially boasted populations of 100,000, 80,000, and 40,000 respectively.” While this is centuries after the start, it’s also after a lot of upheaval in the region due to Mali’s collapse, wars, slave raids, and drought, so it’s potentially comparable to the 1337 population. Given that, like most places in the world, most people lived in rural settlements, the math here does not work out for Mali to have 703k.
 
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At its zenith, it was decentralized. It ruled through vassal kings with governors supervising them, like many Sahelian polities. I don’t see how representing that makes Mali look less impressive, especially as vassals can take on the overlord’s color.
We will consider it. One problem that would arise if further dividing it, thought, would be to portray an accurate depiction of the existing districts in 1337.
 
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I don't have anything to contribute for this region but I gotta say you guys *really* need to change how wastelands and empty provinces look like. You can't say what is empty and what is wasteland from the Countries mapmode, you can't say what is colonizable and what is a corridor in the Dinasties mapmode, and some corridors aren't even clear in the Locations mapmode. It's lowkey frustrating, and I hope this is improved until release.
 
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I got a very important question:
It only came to mind because I felt something important in this map was missing and then it clicked, how are you gonna rapresent the slave trade exacly since slaves aren't a trade good anymore? It's an important part of the economy of this region and one of the many reasons why the Europeans stack around until the partition of Africa in the late 19th century after all.
 
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Will there be a mechanic that prevents Europeans from colonising inner African provinces in the Early game? Personally I think only a few coastal forts should be colonisable to the Europeans until 1700 at least, since the Europeans only conquered these provinces in the late 1800s
Tropical diseases like Malaria were the biggest obstacle for any European power colonizing the interior, along with the fact that the native powers were powerful enough to pose a threat to whatever forces the European could scrap together. (Queen Nzinga famously defeated the Portuguese in the 1600s) Unlike in current EU4 where Spain can send it’s entire army to kick in Mali’s teeth, real colonial armies tended to be small with a lot of native auxiliaries to make up for the lack of European troops. Malaria, yellow fever, and sleeping sickness can best be represented by endemic disease modifiers on locations/provinces, that give severe attrition. (Like the pagan homelands in ck2) Likewise African powers should have a real chance to fight and win against European powers, with the ability to juggle alliances between the colonial powers. (Queen Nzinga was supported by the Dutch)

“But nowhere—past or present—has malaria exacted a greater toll than on Africa. A powerful defensive pathogen, it was a leading obstacle to Africa's colonization. Portuguese traders who entered the African coastal plain in the late 1400s and early 1500s were the first foreigners to confront the killing fever. For the next 3 centuries, whenever European powers tried to establish outposts on the continent, they were repelled time and again by malaria, yellow fever, and other tropical scourges. By the 18th century, the dark specter of disease earned West and central Africa the famous epitaph, “the White Man's Grave.”

Even stronger testimony to malaria's ancient hold on Africa is the selective survival of hemoglobin S—the cause of the inherited hemoglobin disorder sickle cell anemia. Since individuals who inherit two copies of the hemoglobin S gene (one from each parent) are unlikely to survive and reproduce, the disease should be exceedingly rare. However, in those people who have inherited only one sickle cell gene (such individuals are sickle cell “carriers”—they suffer few if any complications of sickle cell disease), needle-shaped clumps of hemoglobin S within red blood cells confer strong protection against malaria (Bayoumi, 1987). Thus, the sickle cell gene is perpetuated in malarious regions by one set of individuals who reap its benefits while another set pays the price. In some parts of Africa, up to 20 percent of the population carry a single copy of the abnormal gene (Marsh, 2002).

In recent years, by virtue of climate, ecology, and poverty, sub-Saharan Africa has been home to 80 to 90 percent of the world's malaria cases and deaths, although some predict that resurgent malaria in southern Asia is already altering that proportion.”


 
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Have you considered sub-dividing the climate even further?? I imagine that Belarus and Russia would have way more severe winters that for example Bohemia or Hungary, and yet they are all classified as 'Continental'.. I really want climate to be a significant factor in the game as it would have been historically.. Stuff like frozen rivers in the winter and a shorter growing season for crops are things which has historically played a big part in why Russia had a harder time developing than Western Europe.. I just feel like a complex climate system(coupled with complex terrain) would be very beneficial for the game..
 
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Just so we have some reference for what the religious subdivision will be, are you planning on breaking up Animism here into a setup similar to how it is in CK3, or do you have different religions in mind?
We have yet to decide on how much granularity do we want as an approach, to be honest.
 
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Spent more than half a year in northern Ghana, so I'm very happy to see the Dagbani and Mamprusi people being represented. As a first impression, two questions:
  1. Steven L. Danver writes that Naa Gbewaa was the ancestor of the Dagbon, Mamprugu and Nanumba kingdom (source); why did you leave out the last one? Whenever I spoke to Dagbani or Mamprusi people, they mentioned those three kingdoms, so I think the Nanumba should definitely be included.
  2. Why the division between Mamprusi and Dagbani culture? Speakers of both languages (which are rather dialects) can perfectly understand each other, I have observed that many times. The difference was that sometimes, vowels would be exchanged, so "u" instead of "i," but the words were mostly the same. Even when different words were used, they would still understand each other. I guess that 700 years ago, the cultural difference was even more marginal than it is today because they were a couple of generations apart. Peter Skalník (1996, p. 89) writes that to some degree, the three tribes considered themselves to be one people. That's pretty much what I heard from Mamprusi and Dagombe people. IMO, it's inconsistent to divide the Mamprusi, Nanumba and Dagbani cultures, given that Flemish and Dutch are now represented as Lower Franconian.
    1. About the language: One difference I remember is saying "good morning": Dasiba (Dagbani) vs. Dasuba (Mampruli).
I wish, though, that the map would have more granularity. For example, Namburugu is not on the map which was the first capital of the Dagbon kingdom.

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  1. The traditional seat of the Nanumba kingdom was in Bimbilla (Sulemana, 2013, p. 175; Salník, 1996, p. 87) which is located south of Yendi, i.e., Napka location. A very good resource on the mythical founding of the three polities is provided by Salník. You might rename Napka to Bimballa to include the seat of the Nanumba people. Moreover, according to this source (which is arguably a primary source), Salaga was settled by the Nanumba people before the Gonja people arrived there.
  2. Instead of having the division Dagbani-Mamprusi-Nanuni, you could have it unified as Mole-Dagbani (Wiki) and simulate the differentiation over time. Might be strange with the other Gur languages though, but again, they are literally only a couple of generations apart in the early 14th century.
 
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I'll let someone more familiar with Nri and the Igbo give more detailed thoughts, but my first impression is that the cultural borders around there and in southeast West Africa in general should not be nearly so neat. Though the fact that you not only have Igbo-Ukwu there but producing copper makes me confident that Tinto can do all of its remaining homework.

Seconding the need to differentiate populated locations not part of a centralized state from wasteland as well.

I know this took the form of a compliment sandwich, but I really do love this map! Lots of good things and good potential, good job team
 
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