I wonder what those to hit calculations look like. These missiles move at 190.000 km/s. Over half the speed of light and more than 10 times faster than their target. Hit chances before ECM should be north of 80%, so what am I missing?
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It was quoted before that a 5 level diffencr in eccm guaranteed no hits.
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Our own anti-ship missiles (not AMM-PD) have ATG (Active Terminal Guidance) of up to +50%.
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Range 2.73 million km. Closing in at 3,100 kps.
Our Red-1 priority targets include the seven enemy Lot-et-Garonne class, which have 145 points of shields, ECM-6 and twenty size-12 missile tubes each. I'd like to find out how long it typically takes to pound through their shield and start scoring internals. Armed with this info, we'll have a better idea of how to allocate the... fifteen?... squadrons of Fighters that will be present at the jump point ambush of Red 2.
We have twelve Emotions and four Phalanxes in the Gunship force. For our test, I propose to allocate two Emotions to each of Lot-et-Garonne 001 to 006, and to have the four Phalanxes gang up on the seventh one.
Comments?
Our Red-1 priority targets include the seven enemy Lot-et-Garonne class, which have 145 points of shields, ECM-6 and twenty size-12 missile tubes each. I'd like to find out how long it typically takes to pound through their shield and start scoring internals. Armed with this info, we'll have a better idea of how to allocate the... fifteen?... squadrons of Fighters that will be present at the jump point ambush of Red 2.
We have twelve Emotions and four Phalanxes in the Gunship force. For our test, I propose to allocate two Emotions to each of Lot-et-Garonne 001 to 006, and to have the four Phalanxes gang up on the seventh one.
Comments?
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Range now 1.49 million km.
Late-game Laser tech (at the very top of the tech tree) can shoot this far. Our own Lasers (and Fire Controls) have a maximum range of nearly half-a-million km and an effective range of about half of that... but that's against ECM-3 or less.
Against ECM-6 opponents, we'll need to get much closer than that.
Late-game Laser tech (at the very top of the tech tree) can shoot this far. Our own Lasers (and Fire Controls) have a maximum range of nearly half-a-million km and an effective range of about half of that... but that's against ECM-3 or less.
Against ECM-6 opponents, we'll need to get much closer than that.
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Range 0.99 million km (or 990,000 km).
Not long now.
We'll hold our fire and close in to around 1/4 of max range.
Not long now.
We'll hold our fire and close in to around 1/4 of max range.
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Meanwhile, we are setting up a Fighter ambush in Lernea to dispose of the Gard so the Sabres can clean up the remaining enemy ships.
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It really is approaching an end of the beginning of this war.
I would be very happy to read the demise of red 1 at no further cost to the Emucracy.
I would be very happy to read the demise of red 1 at no further cost to the Emucracy.
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Correct.
The Phalanxes have one Quad-barreled Gauss PD turret and two Quad-barreled DP Light Laser turrets.
The Emotions have one Quad-barreled DP Light Laser turret and two Quad-barreled 30cm Heavy Laser turrets.
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I expect to encounter some sort of close-range PD... Gauss perhaps, or Railguns.
I was planning to close in to about 100,000 - to - 120,000 km. Well outside Gauss PD range, but less than 1/4 range for our heavy guns and our DP Light guns.
That should give us a base 75-to-80% hit chance, penalized by the opponent's three level ECM/ECCM advantage (and by his fast movement) but modified by our
Maybe 30-40% per shot?
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Emotion II class Battlecruiser 22,992 tons 723 Crew 9,395.8 BP TCS 460 TH 7,680 EM 8,580
16701 km/s Armour 3-72 Shields 286-670 HTK 163 Sensors 18/18/0/0 DCR 21-9 PPV 124.38
Maint Life 2.47 Years MSP 14,663 AFR 201% IFR 2.8% 1YR 3,332 5YR 49,987 Max Repair 3840 MSP
Captain Control Rating 4 BRG AUX ENG CIC
Intended Deployment Time: 10 months Morale Check Required
2021 SCAM Drive EP7680.00 HS-150 B-150 (1) Power 7680 Fuel Use 20.67% Signature 7680 Explosion 15%
Fuel Capacity 1,400,000 Litres Range 53 billion km (36 days at full power)
2023 Xi S286 / R670 Shields HS-32 (1) Recharge Time 670 seconds (0.4 per second)
Quad 2009 30cm C8 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (2x4) Range 480,000km TS: 12500 km/s Power 96-32 RM 60,000 km ROF 15
2020 Quad 2011 15.0cm DP C6 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (1x4) Range 360,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 24-24 RM 60,000 km ROF 5
2016 DP Beam Fire Control R480-TS25000 (SW) (20%) (1) Max Range: 480,000 km TS: 25,000 km/s ECCM-3 98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
2016 Beam Fire Control R480-TS12500 (20%) MW (1) Max Range: 480,000 km TS: 12,500 km/s ECCM-3 98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant R89 (1) Total Power Output 89.3 Exp 5%
CIV PD Active Search Sensor AS14-R1 2004 (1) GPS 36 Range 14.4m km MCR 1.3m km Resolution 1
CIV Active Search Sensor AS66-R100 2004 (1) GPS 3600 Range 66.7m km Resolution 100
CIV EM Sensor EM1.0-18.0 2004 (1) Sensitivity 18 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 33.5m km
CIV Thermal Sensor 2012 TH1.0-18.0 (1) Sensitivity 18 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 33.5m km
Electronic Warfare Jammers: Sensor 5 Fire Control 5 Missile 5
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes
Phalanx class Battlecruiser 22,992 tons 687 Crew 9,269.2 BP TCS 460 TH 7,680 EM 6,870
16701 km/s Armour 3-72 Shields 229-536 HTK 159 Sensors 24/24/0/0 DCR 21-9 PPV 114.38
Maint Life 3.05 Years MSP 19,191 AFR 201% IFR 2.8% 1YR 3,096 5YR 46,441 Max Repair 3840 MSP
Captain Control Rating 4 BRG AUX ENG CIC
Intended Deployment Time: 10 months Morale Check Required
2021 SCAM Drive EP7680.00 HS-150 B-150 (1) Power 7680 Fuel Use 20.67% Signature 7680 Explosion 15%
Fuel Capacity 1,400,000 Litres Range 53 billion km (36 days at full power)
2012b Theta S229 / R536 Shields HS-32 (1) Recharge Time 536 seconds (0.4 per second)
2027 Quad 20cm C10 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (1x4) Range 480,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 40-40 RM 60,000 km ROF 5
2020 Quad 2011 15.0cm DP C6 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (2x4) Range 360,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 24-24 RM 60,000 km ROF 5
2021 Quad 2021 Gauss Cannon R500-100 Turret (1x20) Range 50,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 50,000 km ROF 5
2016 DP Beam Fire Control R480-TS25000 (20%) MW (1) Max Range: 480,000 km TS: 25,000 km/s ECCM-3 98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
2016 PD Beam Fire Control R240-TS25000 (SW) (20%) (1) Max Range: 240,000 km TS: 25,000 km/s ECCM-3 96 92 88 83 79 75 71 67 62 58
2027 SCAM Power Plant R100 (1) Total Power Output 100.5 Exp 5%
2027 CIV Search Sensor AS88-R100 (1) GPS 4800 Range 88.9m km Resolution 100
2027 CIV PD Search Sensor AS19-R1 (1) GPS 48 Range 19.1m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
2018 CIV EM Sensor EM1.0-24.0 (1) Sensitivity 24 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 38.7m km
2025 CIV Thermal Sensor TH1.0-24.0 (1) Sensitivity 24 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 38.7m km
Electronic Warfare Jammers: Sensor 5 Fire Control 5 Missile 5
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes
16701 km/s Armour 3-72 Shields 286-670 HTK 163 Sensors 18/18/0/0 DCR 21-9 PPV 124.38
Maint Life 2.47 Years MSP 14,663 AFR 201% IFR 2.8% 1YR 3,332 5YR 49,987 Max Repair 3840 MSP
Captain Control Rating 4 BRG AUX ENG CIC
Intended Deployment Time: 10 months Morale Check Required
2021 SCAM Drive EP7680.00 HS-150 B-150 (1) Power 7680 Fuel Use 20.67% Signature 7680 Explosion 15%
Fuel Capacity 1,400,000 Litres Range 53 billion km (36 days at full power)
2023 Xi S286 / R670 Shields HS-32 (1) Recharge Time 670 seconds (0.4 per second)
Quad 2009 30cm C8 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (2x4) Range 480,000km TS: 12500 km/s Power 96-32 RM 60,000 km ROF 15
2020 Quad 2011 15.0cm DP C6 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (1x4) Range 360,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 24-24 RM 60,000 km ROF 5
2016 DP Beam Fire Control R480-TS25000 (SW) (20%) (1) Max Range: 480,000 km TS: 25,000 km/s ECCM-3 98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
2016 Beam Fire Control R480-TS12500 (20%) MW (1) Max Range: 480,000 km TS: 12,500 km/s ECCM-3 98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
Solid-core Anti-matter Power Plant R89 (1) Total Power Output 89.3 Exp 5%
CIV PD Active Search Sensor AS14-R1 2004 (1) GPS 36 Range 14.4m km MCR 1.3m km Resolution 1
CIV Active Search Sensor AS66-R100 2004 (1) GPS 3600 Range 66.7m km Resolution 100
CIV EM Sensor EM1.0-18.0 2004 (1) Sensitivity 18 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 33.5m km
CIV Thermal Sensor 2012 TH1.0-18.0 (1) Sensitivity 18 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 33.5m km
Electronic Warfare Jammers: Sensor 5 Fire Control 5 Missile 5
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes
Phalanx class Battlecruiser 22,992 tons 687 Crew 9,269.2 BP TCS 460 TH 7,680 EM 6,870
16701 km/s Armour 3-72 Shields 229-536 HTK 159 Sensors 24/24/0/0 DCR 21-9 PPV 114.38
Maint Life 3.05 Years MSP 19,191 AFR 201% IFR 2.8% 1YR 3,096 5YR 46,441 Max Repair 3840 MSP
Captain Control Rating 4 BRG AUX ENG CIC
Intended Deployment Time: 10 months Morale Check Required
2021 SCAM Drive EP7680.00 HS-150 B-150 (1) Power 7680 Fuel Use 20.67% Signature 7680 Explosion 15%
Fuel Capacity 1,400,000 Litres Range 53 billion km (36 days at full power)
2012b Theta S229 / R536 Shields HS-32 (1) Recharge Time 536 seconds (0.4 per second)
2027 Quad 20cm C10 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (1x4) Range 480,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 40-40 RM 60,000 km ROF 5
2020 Quad 2011 15.0cm DP C6 Soft X-ray Laser Turret (2x4) Range 360,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 24-24 RM 60,000 km ROF 5
2021 Quad 2021 Gauss Cannon R500-100 Turret (1x20) Range 50,000km TS: 25000 km/s Power 0-0 RM 50,000 km ROF 5
2016 DP Beam Fire Control R480-TS25000 (20%) MW (1) Max Range: 480,000 km TS: 25,000 km/s ECCM-3 98 96 94 92 90 88 85 83 81 79
2016 PD Beam Fire Control R240-TS25000 (SW) (20%) (1) Max Range: 240,000 km TS: 25,000 km/s ECCM-3 96 92 88 83 79 75 71 67 62 58
2027 SCAM Power Plant R100 (1) Total Power Output 100.5 Exp 5%
2027 CIV Search Sensor AS88-R100 (1) GPS 4800 Range 88.9m km Resolution 100
2027 CIV PD Search Sensor AS19-R1 (1) GPS 48 Range 19.1m km MCR 1.7m km Resolution 1
2018 CIV EM Sensor EM1.0-24.0 (1) Sensitivity 24 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 38.7m km
2025 CIV Thermal Sensor TH1.0-24.0 (1) Sensitivity 24 Detect Sig Strength 1000: 38.7m km
Electronic Warfare Jammers: Sensor 5 Fire Control 5 Missile 5
This design is classed as a Military Vessel for maintenance purposes
This design is classed as a Warship for auto-assignment purposes
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Given the way shields work, would it be better to concentrate all the fire power on one target at a time, rather than split it? Every round a damaged ship survives costs you 5 seconds of shield regeneration.
The Gunships are not at 100% crew experience, though. That means they will each suffer from zero to five(?) rounds of fire delay every time you order them to switch targets, and during the fire delay rounds they don't shoot at ANYBODY. Neither the old target nor the new one.
So until your force reaches 100% training, you should plan your fire to minimize target-switching.
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Jesus Christ.
Twelve points damage per hit, at 600,000 km range. I wonder how much damage it does at point blank?
Ninety-four points of damage per hit.
Guess who just got moved to the top of the target list?
ECM-6 but no shield?
Twelve points damage per hit, at 600,000 km range. I wonder how much damage it does at point blank?
Ninety-four points of damage per hit.
Guess who just got moved to the top of the target list?
ECM-6 but no shield?
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Still closing in. Now at 510,000 km range.
So the five-barreled turret (if that's what it is) has a cycle time of 25 seconds.
With Red 1 moving at 13,608 kps and us chasing them at 16,701 kps, we are gaining on them at a rate of almost 3,100 kps. In 25 seconds we get 77,325 km closer.
With their ECM-6, they'll get about three shots at us before we're close enough to start hitting.
So the five-barreled turret (if that's what it is) has a cycle time of 25 seconds.
With Red 1 moving at 13,608 kps and us chasing them at 16,701 kps, we are gaining on them at a rate of almost 3,100 kps. In 25 seconds we get 77,325 km closer.
With their ECM-6, they'll get about three shots at us before we're close enough to start hitting.
I assume in this case it is “everyone hit the Sarthe”!
Is it possible the Sarthe lacks ECCM? Which would be funny!