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Skeletr0nKing

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BUT ... BUT... DOES THAT MEAN CAN I USE EPIGENETIC TRIGGERS TO MAKE TEENAGERS TO GROW THE HELL UP ONCE AND FOR ALL?!?!?!
 
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70kg offspring gets his yellow safety helmet, orange coverall, a lunchbox and goes off straight to work at the construction site but not before giving a kiss to their mom the day after birth.
"I was born one morning when the sun didn't shine.
I picked up my shovel and I walked to the mine."
Tennesee Ernie Ford - 16 tonnes

Human canon already.
 
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Watch humans not have this trait.
Yeah that's my problem with this trait: Unless humans have this trait, its flavour text makes no sense.

Previously you would guess that infants/children/larvae/pebbles were just included inside each pop, or just left out. With this trait existing, that suggests all species without it can work soon after birth?
 
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Yeah that's my problem with this trait: Unless humans have this trait, its flavour text makes no sense.

Previously you would guess that infants/children/larvae/pebbles were just included inside each pop, or just left out. With this trait existing, that suggests all species without it can work soon after birth?
The default creature, apparently, gives live birth, can instantly start a 401k.
 
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This trait goes a long way towards explaining how you can use Overtuned to create a species with an average lifespan of 0 and still have a workforce.

Obviously, this is a massive win.
 
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Yeah that's my problem with this trait: Unless humans have this trait, its flavour text makes no sense.

Previously you would guess that infants/children/larvae/pebbles were just included inside each pop, or just left out. With this trait existing, that suggests all species without it can work soon after birth?
Well, you can RP it as "the average species is at presapient-level for X years, species with this trait are presapient for X+5 years", and it would have the same effects.
 
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This trait goes a long way towards explaining how you can use Overtuned to create a species with an average lifespan of 0 and still have a workforce.

Obviously, this is a massive win.
I wonder if this trait can be selected with Overtuned, would be a horribly fantastic combo!
 
Some of y'all are talking like this is just childhood. Seems more like they're going for caterpillar to moth type metamorphosis brain. Which is not the same as just getting older.
 
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Some of y'all are talking like this is just childhood. Seems more like they're going for caterpillar to moth type metamorphosis brain. Which is not the same as just getting older.
But childhood is a correct interpretation of the text.
I mean children up to 5 year old have a real hard time contributing to society...
Dunno what you're thinking, but for me? If the glove does fit...
 
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Actually wait, does this trait even DO anything? It's just a flat 5 years extra. Past the first... 5 years of the game it's like you had nothing.
You'll basically be behind by your most recent five years of growth at all times. That's definitely not nothing, but it's probably not a particularly huge loss either. It's not a permanent penalty like 10% growth is, it's a rolling penalty of however many pops you got in the last five years not working. With the addition of granularity in growth, that WILL always hurt a bit.

Assuming all of your starting pops count as older than 5 years, it could be quite strong to start off even if it will have some impact later.
 
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You'll basically be behind by your most recent five years of growth at all times. That's definitely not nothing, but it's probably not a particularly huge loss either. It's not a permanent penalty like 10% growth is, it's a rolling penalty of however many pops you got in the last five years not working. With the addition of granularity in growth, that WILL always hurt a bit.

Assuming all of your starting pops count as older than 5 years, it could be quite strong to start off even if it will have some impact later.
Though depending on how it is implemented, it might also directly reduce your pop growth. That's what would happen if they counts as a different subspecies or are specifically blocked from growing.
 
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But childhood is a correct interpretation of the text.
I mean children up to 5 year old have a real hard time contributing to society...
Dunno what you're thinking, but for me? If the glove does fit...

Giving birth early and the incapable bit applies, but being blissfully unaware of sapience doesn’t fit a 3-5 year old. They might not understand those terms but they can think, talk, learn, etc. There’s still a pretty big difference between a 5 year old’s cognitive ability and that of something like an orangutang.

I’m not a huge fan of the wording but it’s just ambiguous enough that you could read it as human children or as something more alien. Like 5 year olds with the cognitive capacity of a <1 year old; incapable of talking, recognising oneself etc.
 
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