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Dev Diary #175 - Ritsuryō, Sōryō, Meritocratic

Hey, I’m Chop, a designer working on the upcoming All Under Heaven expansion, particularly Japan and Korea. Speaking of which, in today’s development diary we will be exploring the Japanese archipelago and Korean peninsula! Let’s take a closer look at the gameplay mechanics of three new government types: Ritsuryō, Sōryō, and Meritocratic.




The Land of the Rising Sun

The Japanese islands occupy an interesting position, being near enough to China to have been heavily influenced by its culture, but remote enough to have largely escaped direct interference from its Hegemons. Expanding to eventually cover the southern islands of Kyūshū and Shikoku, and most of the main island of Honshū, the Yamato people occupy most of the archipelago united under a single emperor, and with no real external threats.

However, the northern reaches of Honshū are populated by the Emishi tribes, further north the Ainu tribes reside on the island of Hokkaidō, and far to the south the island chains of Okinawa and Amami are home to the Ryukyuan tribes. Famed horse archers, the Emishi have long struggled against encroachment from their southern neighbors, who have launched incremental campaigns of conquest for centuries.

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[The Japanese political map, note coats of arms are work in progress]

Eagle-eyed diary readers will notice that Japan is no longer red, instead taking the Murasaki purple of the wisteria flower, to add some visual distinction from Chinese Hegemons of the crimson variety.


A Fragile Peace

During our period, Japan transitioned from a peaceful bureaucratic realm headed by aristocratic families, to a military shogunate dominated by more pragmatic samurai families, but is still a largely unwarlike place, far from the more militarized Japan of the later Sengoku era.

Amidst all this, there is also a ruling emperor, or Ten’nō, who is nominally the head of state, but whose power varies considerably depending on the circumstances. The Yamato dynasty has held this position in an unbroken line from ancient times, even up to the present day.

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[The government split inside Japan at the 1066 bookmark.]

We strived to represent both of these styles of governments, as well the transition between them, along with the ever-present imperial family.


The Ritsuryō System

In our earlier start dates, the Heian (Peace) era is in full-swing, following Emperor Kanmu’s establishment of the aptly named capital of Heian-kyō (now Kyōto) in 794. This bustling city’s palace is the center of the government bureaucracy and home of the imperial family, with the Manors of the aristocratic families close at hand.

Taking inspiration from China, Ritsuryō is the Japanese legal framework, and as in China, the many provinces of Japan are assigned to governors, or kokushi. Along with the many branches of the Fujiwara family, the other aristocratic families of note compete for appointments and recognition.

Unlike China, the government is de facto directed by a regent ruling on behalf of the sitting emperor. For gameplay purposes, we have simplified the naming distinction between regents of underage emperors, Sesshō, and those of adult emperors, under the unified name Kampaku. Though nominally a regent, the Kampaku is not in a Diarch relationship with the emperor, and both characters may have their own Diarch when relevant.

Historically the position of regent was totally dominated by the main line of the Fujiwara family, who tried to minimize the influence of the imperial family beyond their ceremonial roles and maintain their pre-eminence among nobility. The Fujiwara were an extremely prolific family, whose influence and sheer size essentially dwarfed those of any other family, with almost 500 living members in 1178. Playing as another bureaucratic family attempting to unseat the Fujiwara is a great challenge in itself, though not impossible.

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[Example of Kampaku succession score]

Becoming Kampaku works similarly to the Acclamation succession of Byzantium, and can be directly raised or lowered by spending Influence, but also has a unique system of specific weights related to the imperial family, and Blocs (which we will discuss more below).

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[The Japanese province map]

Also unlike China or other administrative government types in the game, provinces are largely county tier appointments, and generally a governor cannot hold more than one at the same time. This represents the historic Ritsuryō provinces, or kuni, of Japan, and the fragmented power of any one official. Almost all historical kuni are represented as counties in-game, except for a few exceptions which were deemed too small and incorporated into a neighbour, such as Iga, Shima, and Awa (in Chiba).

By default, Ritsuryō rulers cannot create duchies or kingdoms in Japan, even the Kampaku. Shrewd Houses may instead fill many appointments with their own members, leveraging their power as a united family rather than as individuals, a theme common in our Japanese features.

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[The Japanese Manor domicile, art is work in progress]

The Manor is a new type of domicile, unique to Japanese governments, with its own buildings, art, and bonuses. Sōryō (more on that shortly) is our only non-administrative government type that grants an estate-style domicile, retaining any upgrades when switching between the Japanese government types. Some building chains are only unlocked by certain House Aspirations, which will be discussed more later.

The Chrysanthemum Throne

Though historically the emperor was largely sidelined, the Yamato family was still an influential political force. Over time, it became common for emperors to become monks, abdicating the throne to their heir to escape the direct responsibilities of the throne, while still influencing politics as a so-called cloistered emperor, or Hōō.

In All Under Heaven, the emperor is a playable character, a member of the Yamato family who holds a Noble Family and Manor like other Ritsuryō rulers, and has their own Royal Court. The emperor is only a valid candidate for the regency of Japan itself, while other members of the Yamato family are valid candidates only for governorships.

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[The Emperor of Japan, note art is still WIP]

If an emperor does manage to take the top title by Influence, they will receive an event where they are given the option to abdicate and rule Japan as a powerful cloistered emperor, or attempt to hold on to both titles, representing the historical possibility of renewed direct rule, though doing so will not be well received by the chattering classes.

Historically, many branches of the Yamato family were eventually disinherited to prune the royal ranks, taking new names, the most famous being the various Taira and Minamoto houses, identified by which emperor they descend from. In our game, Yamato governors can form or join these houses, organically creating new branch families.

Imperial Policies

The sitting top liege of Japan, be they Kampaku, Shōgun, or Ten’no, always has access to a unique law category, Imperial Policies, issued in the name of the emperor. Despite the relative political stability, the policies of the Japanese government varied substantially throughout our era, as the bureaucracy was replaced and external politics changed. Like Crown Authority, Imperial Policies can be changed freely besides a cooldown.

There are a variety of available policies, suited to different objectives and situations, some with wide-reaching edicts which can substantially change the gameplay in the Japanese islands. For example, rulers in the empire of Japan are not able to freely declare external wars, representing the general lack of ambition for conquest besides extending the northern frontier for most of our period. However, by implementing the Imperial Expansion policy, the usual inter-realm casus bellis available elsewhere may be unlocked, along with a reduction to the cost of Mercenaries and Men-at-Arms.

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[The Imperial Policies law window, art and vassal approval requirements are work in progress!]

Other Policies change the balance between government types in Japan, or provide simple situational benefits at an opportunity cost.

Conversely, if Japan finds itself under true threat from an external invasion, the Defence Mobilization policy will become available, providing an extra edge in Advantage and allowing Ritusryō rulers access to the usually Sōryō-limited Mounted Samurai horse archer Men-at-Arms.

House Aspirations

Each House in Japan has an Aspiration, similar to the House Powers of Byzantium, representing the character and goals of the family as a whole. Each Aspiration has several Levels, each granting new boons. The House Head may spend Prestige to increase the Level of their current Aspiration or change its Type, starting from the lowest Level once again when changing Type.

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[The House Aspiration window, art very much work in progress!]

Each type of Aspiration is focused on a different area, with some more suited to certain government types than other; Service grants bonuses to Governor Efficiency and Candidate Score, and is a good pick for those who wish to climb the bureaucratic ranks and serve emperor; Ceremony grants bonuses to Prestige and Renown generation, a sure choice for the noblest of families; Strength improves Men-at-Arms and martial skill, ensuring dominance on the battlefield.

Beyond the bonuses granted, the Aspiration a House chooses will also determine their political goals to a certain extent, and is a driving force in another new feature, House Blocs, which I will touch on a little later.

House Relations

Our free patch accompanying All Under Heaven includes another family-oriented mechanic, the House Relation. These work similar to character relations like Rivals and Friends, but are between two Houses rather than two Characters.

Now, whenever a friendly or hostile action is taken between Houses within the same Realm or similar rank, such as declaring wars or arranging marriages, the Relation between the two Houses will increase or decrease.

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[Example of a House Relation and the levels, art work in progress!]

There is a spectrum of 7 levels, from Feud to Amity, with each rank towards the extremes modifying the Opinion of all House members to members of the other House. In addition, each level grants other bonuses or modifiers to standard gameplay when interacting with the other House, such as allowing the free negotiation of Alliances, or reducing the costs of all Wars.

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[Work-in-progress image of the work-in-progress House Relation history window. It's a work in progress.]

This change allows inter-generational disputes and collaborations between families to persist more organically, adding another layer of reactivity to the world. Like Character Memories, the reasons for changes over time are tracked, and can be similarly browsed to get a picture of how a relationship has developed over time.

Blocs

With the fragmented political map inside Japan, we wanted a better way to depict the various political groups, and a way to allow them to defend each other without traditional Alliances, maintaining the fragile peace that so often prevailed.

House Blocs are our solution, and work similarly to the Confederations added in Khans of the Steppe, but with Houses as members rather than Characters. A Leading House acts as the main decision-maker of the Bloc, with other Houses considered to be their willing cooperators. The House Head of the Leading House gets to decide which Houses are allowed entry to the Bloc, and may also expel other member Houses at will.

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[The House Bloc window, still very work in progress]

Each House Bloc has a Cohesion value, with additional bonuses for all members unlocked for keeping this value high. Cohesion is based on the number and governments of member Houses, whether their House Aspiration matches that of the Leading House, and the Relations between its member Houses.

The Aspiration of the Leading House acts as a sort of defining principle of the Bloc; a Service orientated Bloc will naturally represent Ritsuryō interests, while a Strength focused Bloc seeks to expand military power. The Aspiration of a House is not generally limited by their government type, and various combinations are possible. Generally multiple Blocs led by Houses of the same Aspiration type are not common, with interests coalescing around the most able leadership.

Crucially, Bloc members will automatically join the Factions of the House Head of their Bloc’s Leading House, increase their succession score for Kampaku (if they are Ritsuryō), and also join in their defensive wars, including Tyranny wars started by attempts at Imprisonment or Revocation. This makes challenging a Bloc something to consider carefully, and any wars that do occur are far more impactful than they would be if Japanese vassals were merely isolated county-tier rulers with scattered alliances.

In addition, acquiring governorships for members of Houses within your Bloc, be they your own or others, can directly aid in strengthening your Factions and succession score or preventing attacks to your position, while being without a Bloc leaves you worryingly exposed to your enemies.

The Rise of the Bushi

As the Heian era wore on, many noble families, frustrated by the fierce competition for appointments with the Fujiwara, despaired of ever climbing the bureaucratic ranks, and instead left the capital, establishing manors in the provinces. Far from the disinterested aristocrats of the capital, the power of these families eventually grew to the point they ruled de facto as a hereditary local nobility.

We represent this by allowing Ritsuryō rulers to establish a held appointment as a fief, switching their government type to Sōryō. This is considered a crime by the Kampaku, and all Ritsuryō governors are able to use a casus belli which returns the title. However, Sōryō rulers pack more of a punch than the bureaucrats, with access to the Mounted Samurai horse archer Men-at-Arms type. In addition, Sōryō rulers will generally band together to defend themselves, making resisting their spread a less simple proposition.

By our last start date almost all of Japan was effectively beyond the reach of the Ritsuryō apparatus, instead now dominated by the rising bushi families, most notably the Taira and Minamoto houses.

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[The political situation of Japan in 1178]

By 1178, the head of the Kanmu Taira, Kiyomori, had effectively supplanted the power of the Fujiwara, ruling as a de facto dictator in a manner which would ultimately come to be known as a Shōgun. Just two years after our last bookmark, the Minamoto houses resisted the overwhelming Taira domination in the Genpei, or Minamoto-Taira, war, with their leader Yoritomo ultimately wiping out the Taira and establishing the first true shogunate in Kamakura.




The Three Kingdoms

Like Japan, the Korean peninsula occupies an interesting position as a heavily Chinese-influenced region, with its own deep cultural and political history. Though it is at greater exposure to invasion from the various states and tribes which lay to its north, it is a fairly developed mountainous region, and any threats will struggle to gain a foothold as long as Korea remains united.

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[Kingdom of Goryeo in 1066, character art, coats of arms, and map are work in progress]

By our earliest start date, the Gim dynasty of the Unified Kingdom of Silla in the east had long-subdued its main rivals, the kingdoms of Baekje in the south and Goguryeo in the north-west. The struggle between these three states, known as the Later Three Kingdoms or Husamguk, had raged for centuries, with Silla ultimately emerging victorious. Further north, the kingdom of Balhae, or Bóhǎi, straddles the hinterland between China, Korea, and the Jurchen tribes.

However, this status quo would not last long; a resurgent Goguryeo aristocracy under the Wang dynasty would ultimately overthrow Silla, establishing the Unified Kingdom of Goryeo based in Gaeseong, ruling the entire peninsula until the establishment of the Joseon dynasty in the late 14th century. Meanwhile, soon after Silla fell, Balhae was conquered by Khitan nomads, who would later establish the Chinese-influenced state of Great Liao.

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[Unified Silla in 867 and the Unite the Husamguk decision, art is work in progress]

We represent the unification of the Later Three Kingdoms via a special decision, Unify the Husamguk, which can be taken by any ruler who holds at least one of the kingdoms and has taken over the entire peninsula in a dominant position. This decision destroys the old kingdom titles and creates an empire-tier Unified Kingdom title, which may be named Samhan or Goryeo based on the culture of the unifier. This is the only way for a Korean culture ruler to form the Korean empire-tier title.

This decision also creates the Yongsun Throne, a special Primogeniture kingdom-tier titular title similar to the Chrysanthemum Throne of Japan. The name of this title may also vary based on the culture of the decision taker, with Yongsun, or Dragon, deriving from the legend of King Taejo the Great’s draconic heritage, the historical founder of Goryeo. In addition, the decision increases cultural acceptance between your culture and the other Korean cultures, making it easier to create a new Hybridized Korean culture, uniting the Silla, Baekje, and Goguryeo peoples.

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[Screenshot of the Unified Kingdom of Goryeo in 1178, art and map are work in progress]

The new Unified Kingdom title also gains a unique Acclamation-style succession law, which is weighted towards the ruling Yongsun Throne dynasty. This leaves open the historical possibility of a powerful family taking control of the state from the royalty, as happened by our latest start date with the rise of the military dictators, or Banju, beginning with Yi Ui-bang and Jeong Jung-bu, leaving the royal Wang dynasty in a ceremonial position similar to the Yamato family.

Meritocratic Government

Along with the Korean kingdoms, the kingdoms of Dai Viet, Balhae, and the Liao and Jin states will use a form of government similar to the Chinese Celestial Government, known as Meritocratic. This government type represents the largely administrative states heavily influenced by China due to proximity, interference, or their aspiration to claim the Mandate of Heaven as a conqueror.

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[Map of governments in East Asia in 1178]

Meritocratic governments retain the Noble Families, Estates, Merit, and Examinations of the Celestial government type, promoting their bureaucrats to governorships via a similar system, but may not hold Imperial Examinations of the highest tier. When other forms of government transition into administrative via decision, if they are near to Celestial China they tend to adopt Meritocratic rather than the standard Administrative type.




Map Corner

Let’s conclude with a little look at the current map, all of which is of course subject to change based on feedback and should be taken with a pinch of salt. Let’s start with the de jure title structures of the far east.

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[De jure Empire mapmode]

As you can see, Japan does not have de jure rights to the north of Honshū at game start, given the ongoing campaigns against the Emishi tribes and that part of Japan being the least integrated into the bureaucracy. Instead the kingdom of Hitakami, or Michinoku if ruled by Japan, is a de jure part of the empire of Amur, along with the islands of Sahaliyan and Hokkaidō in the kingdom of Aynumosir. On the mainland, the empire of Samhan, or Goryeo, is bordered by the empire of Andong, composed of Balhae and its environs.

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[De jure Kingdom mapmode]

Here we can see the internal kingdoms of Japan, made up of Tsukushi covering the island of Kyūshū, Yamato covering western Honshū and Shikoku, and Azuma covering most of eastern Honshū . On the mainland, Samhan is divided between its three constituent kingdoms of Goguryeo, Baekje, and Silla.

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[De jure Duchy mapmode]

As for duchies, Japan is split into regional administrative divisions based on the Gokishichidō circuits. As Ritsuryō rulers cannot create duchies, they will mostly be formed by powerful Sōryō lords, who will use their House names. The duchies of Samhan are based on the Mok administrative divisions of the kingdom of Goryeo. To the north, Balhae is split into its administrative divisions, while other areas are based on the dominant tribes of those areas.

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[Culture mapmode in 867]

Our cultures are still a work in progress, but broadly Japan is mostly united under the Yamato culture, while the cultures of Korea’s Later Three Kingdoms are yet to be united in the Goryeo culture present by 1066. To the north, the Balhae culture is a hybrid of Goguryeo and Mohe.

Our faith map is about to undergo a large overhaul, so I will hold off on that one this week!



That wraps up our topics for today, I hope you enjoyed this early look at Japan and Korea. Your thoughts and feedback are most welcome, and I’ll do my best to answer your questions below!
 
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Okay, consider me a convert on this DLC as long as the potential performance issues are solved. I love the unique mechanics of Japan and I'm very glad that the rest of SEA didn't get shafted mechanically in favor of a strong focus on China. I do have one question though. If I start as a custom ruler is there any way to usurp the Yamato family's hold on the Imperial Throne? Or, to put it another way, is it only the Yamato family that can interact with the mechanics of being the emperor?
 
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I'm kind of curious where the name "Andong" comes for re the empire in Manchuria (though ofc "Manchuria" itself would be anachronistic)

I can see why northern Manchuria/the kingdom of Amur might be included in the empire with Tohoku, Hokkaido and Sakhalin as to avoid splitting up the Nivkh lands and make sure the empire has more than two kingdoms, but even so, having that much of the mainland be part of that empire (and give the empire it's name) seems odd to me.
 
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My only caveat with this dev diary (which was already exposed when AUH) is that Japan is being given a lot of attention for what it was at the time. Seems like a bit of a pop culture inflation to me, which wouldn't be a problem if AUH wasn't so freaking big and varied already that the content was spread thin. But hey, I might be alone in this one anyway.
Japan in the era wasn't an economic or military powerhouse, but they were one of the best-documented civilizations of the middle ages, with only China and northern Italy rivaling them. The Kamakura Ibun archive of documents from the years 1185-1333, for instance, contains over 30,000 documents, and it doesn't include books, poetry, etc. that were also written during the period. I also love Southeast Asian history, but in comparison over the same period in Thailand and Cambodia the textual corpus is just a few dozen stone inscriptions.
 
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This is a long shot, but is there any chance Tibet could get a "Monastic" government type, possibly similar to the Mandala one but without god-king and tributary shenanigans?
 
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I'm kind of curious where the name "Andong" comes for re the empire in Manchuria (though ofc "Manchuria" itself would be anachronistic)
The Tang Dynasty destroyed Goguryeo and established "the Protectorate General to Pacify the East" in its place. The Chinese character for "pacify the east" is Andong.
 
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The Japan system is clearly very, very detailed. Criticizing it feels unfair, when even if nothing changes it will have a vast amount of effort put into it.

However, I will have to call for much more on the Kyoto-based court nobility. The dev diary itself refers to "fierce competition for appointments" in the capital, and the "disinterested aristocrats". The system is clearly based around local governance (necessary for CK3 where every county needs a ruler), but it currently does not represent the deep focus of the Heian aristocracy on Kyoto life.

Being a kokushi governor was viewed as nothing when you could be a minister or high-ranking government official (similar to the Chinese merit system, although the system was not determined by merit at all but pure Influence). In the literature of this time, notably the Tale of Genji, people are looked down on as much lesser if their posting is outside the capital. One woman in Genji is viewed as unfit to be the main wife of a Kyoto-based nobleman, since she is related to non-Kyoto-based nobles.

So I am surprised there is no focus on climbing the political ladder purely in Kyoto, or no playable minister titles like China. And no shoen systems are spoken of - how to collect profits of faraway agricultural estates from your manor in Heian-kyo. Even EU5 will have shoen, and it begins in a time when the old court nobles were no longer dominant - and transitions into the time period where the shoen system actually collapsed. In comparison, the shoen system existed almost entirely throughout the timespan of CK3. So it is very surprising that it does not feature at all in a game exploring the land ownership of court nobles in Japan.

Also, will the shogunate be an unlanded title like the Korean king? The first Minamoto shoguns only held true political power for two generations - or a little more than ten years. The Kamakura system was then truly ruled by the shikken from the Hojo clan (related by marriage to the first shoguns, but were far less prestigious and did not have imperial descent. A separate title was therefore claimed instead of usurping the shogun). The shikken could in turn be a separate person from the tokusō (head of the Hojo clan). If unlanded titles are going to be a thing, it seems like even more could be done with this 'puppets of puppets of puppets' theme.
 
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The Japan system is clearly very, very detailed. Criticizing it feels unfair, when even if nothing changes it will have a vast amount of effort put into it.

However, I will have to call for much more on the Kyoto-based court nobility. The dev diary itself refers to "fierce competition for appointments" in the capital, and the "disinterested aristocrats". The system is clearly based around local governance (necessary for CK3 where every county needs a ruler), but it currently does not represent the deep focus of the Heian aristocracy on Kyoto life.

Being a kokushi governor was viewed as nothing when you could be a minister or high-ranking government official (similar to the Chinese merit system, although the system was not determined by merit at all but pure Influence). In the literature of this time, notably the Tale of Genji, people are looked down on as much lesser if their posting is outside the capital. One woman in Genji is viewed as unfit to be the main wife of a Kyoto-based nobleman, since she is related to non-Kyoto-based nobles.

So I am surprised there is no focus on climbing the political ladder purely in Kyoto, or no playable minister titles like China. And no shoen systems are spoken of - how to collect profits of faraway agricultural estates from your manor in Heian-kyo. Even EU5 will have shoen, and it begins in a time when the old court nobles were no longer dominant - and transitions into the time period where the shoen system actually collapsed. In comparison, the shoen system existed almost entirely throughout the timespan of CK3. So it is very surprising that it does not feature at all in a game exploring the land ownership of court nobles in Japan.

Also, will the shogunate be an unlanded title like the Korean king? The first Minamoto shoguns only held true political power for two generations - or a little more than ten years. The Kamakura system was then truly ruled by the shikken from the Hojo clan (related by marriage to the first shoguns, but were far less prestigious and did not have imperial descent. A separate title was therefore claimed instead of usurping the shogun). The shikken could in turn be a separate person from the tokusō (head of the Hojo clan). If unlanded titles are going to be a thing, it seems like even more could be done with this 'puppets of puppets of puppets' theme.
Yeah I hope ministers can be a thing in Japan and Meritocracies as well to model exactly this. But I worry that it won't happen because they have been coded to be empire-tank titles, thus only working inside China.
I would prefer if ministers were a council position that comes with no title rank if it meant that they'll appear for other gov titles. And competition by appointment to all the other minor court titles would also be really fun.
 
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In fact it is meritocratic in the game right now in the internal build. I assume the build was not entirely up to date for southeast asia when they were taken.

Highlights the fact that we are showing you in-progress screenshots in these diaries :)
Are any new personality traits coming with the update/DLC?
 
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Wanua government huh? Wonder what that'll be.

Looks like all of south east asia is Mandala.

Interesting to see the feudal on the border with China.

Jeju is notably feudal too.

Is the implication or meritocratic that Viet Nam and the Jin dynasty will work a bit like Korea does?

What happens if you wipe out the entire Yamato dynasty?
 
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This does seem to be a big unanswered question in the design, at least as far as what was shared in the DD.
-Once there is a shogunate, can the emperor still win succession to the top spot as before? If not, what does the gameplay loop as the emperor look like once there's a shogun?
-Once there is a shogunate, can a Ritsuryo noble still win succession to the top spot as before? If not, what happens to the noble houses as the amount of non-Soryo land dwindles? Does the realm end up with a bunch of noble houses that have domiciles but no realistic way to become landed or otherwise rise to power?
Funnily enough, this is just what ended up happening irl. The title of Kampaku continued to be used and filled by members of Fujiwara-descended clans all the way up to the Meiji Restoration. This despite the Kampaku (and the court nobles in general) being pretty powerless from the Ashikaga period onwards. The big exception being Toyotomo Hideyoshi, who used the title of Kampaku and was the military dictator of Japan, but he wasn't a court noble.
 
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We won't be adding 1 province cultures in this expansion :)
Just wondering what the rational is for that? As, in addition to a Jeju culture many cultures of south eastern Siberia (such as the Negidals, Ulchis, Udeges and Orochis) are not represented here and this expansion could be a great opportunity to expose this community to some of the lesser known peoples of that region (some of which are sadly going extinct).
 
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Funnily enough, this is just what ended up happening irl. The title of Kampaku continued to be used and filled by members of Fujiwara-descended clans all the way up to the Meiji Restoration. This despite the Kampaku (and the court nobles in general) being pretty powerless from the Ashikaga period onwards. The big exception being Toyotomo Hideyoshi, who used the title of Kampaku and was the military dictator of Japan, but he wasn't a court noble.
Well, this is true for the Ashikaga shogunate onwards, but it wasn't such a lost cause for the couriers during the Kamakura period. The Saionji for instance were rich and influential even in the face of a shogunate and cloistered emperor. The Kamakura shogunate lacked the economic and cultural capital of the Kyoto nobility, and actually fell the second time it was challenged by Kyoto. (Go-Daigo overplayed his hand because he was powerful enough to destroy the Kamakura shogunate, but not powerful enough to disenfranchise the warrior class altogether.)

All this to say, it's historically correct to not have the Ritsuryo nobles just wither away as soon as there's a Shogunate, and also it's better gameplay if Ritsuryo noble players remain contenders in the realm after the first shogun emerges, even if they do have to adapt to a smaller overall share of power.
 
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Will we have a restoration faction in these regent-controlled realms like Goryeo and Japan? Anyway he will always be viewed as the rightful ruler of whole realm, and that would require regents to always have an adult heir if using election.
If a powerful Tenno regains power, will he have the chance to reform Japan into a Meritocracy? That's their intention when Ritsoryo was introduced to Japan, as well as the ideal government form in a society influenced by Confucianism.
 
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@Trin Tragula @PDX_Chop You guys know that "Mohe" is an ethnic slur, right? It's a name the Chinese gave them. Its literal meaning is approximately "Shoe People" but the intended meaning is basically "drooling barbarian morons." Even if it's a bit early, you might just want to call them Jurchens or literally anything but Mohe. lol
 
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Jeju is notably feudal too.
Feudal Jeju makes sense. Jeju was semi-autonomous until 1404. Its kings were renamed as seongju or Star Lords (星主) and held a hereditary office on the island until 1404. The real question is why is Ullengdo Island feudal? The kingdom of Usan was annexed in 1022, it should be treated as any other territory of Goryeo.
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