-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
Reworked SWE_291002 and SWE_291003:
#-#In may 1482 Hans the son of Christian I and Dorothea of Brandenburg were crowned King of Denmark. According to an old agreement he was to rule both Denmark, Norway and Sweden.
Is it correct?
Code:
#(1482-1501) The coronation of King Hans -1-
event = {
id = 291002
trigger = {
exists = DAN
event = 159002 #DAN: The coronation of King Hans
NOT = { vassal = { country = DAN country = SWE } }
NOT = { event = 291003 } #SWE: The coronation of King Hans -II-
}
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME291002" #The coronation of King Hans
desc = "EVENTHIST291002"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1482 }
offset = 570
deathdate = { day = 8 month = august year = 1501 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291002A" #Stall the coronation of Hans
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -10 }
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
[COLOR="Red"]command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre[/COLOR]
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291002B" #We will honor the agreement
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 257 value = -3 } #Bergslagen
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = 200 }
command = { type = trigger which = 159009 } #DAN: Sweden crowns Hans as their King
command = { type = sleepevent which = 291004 } #DAN: Swedish nobles support Sten Sture den äldre (the elder)
command = { type = sleepevent which = 159017 } #DAN: Sweden is stalling
[COLOR="red"]command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre[/COLOR]
}
action_c = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291002C" #Never! Sweden shall remain independent
command = { type = stability value = -7 }
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -25 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 252 } #Småland
command = { type = revolt which = 253 } #Västergötland
command = { type = revolt which = 254 } #Svealand
command = { type = trigger which = 159010 } #DAN: Sten Sture den äldre (the elder) refuses to crown Hans
command = { type = sleepevent which = 159017 } #DAN: Sweden is stalling
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
[COLOR="red"]command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre[/COLOR]
}
}
#(1482-1501) The coronation of King Hans -II-
event = {
id = 291003
trigger = {
exists = DAN
event = 159002 #DAN: The coronation of King Hans.
vassal = { country = DAN country = SWE }
NOT = { event = 291002 } #SWE: The coronation of King Hans -I-
}
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME29100[COLOR="Red"]3[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]2[/COLOR]" #The coronation of King Hans
desc = "EVENTHIST29100[COLOR="Red"]3[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]2[/COLOR]"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1482 }
offset = 570
deathdate = { day = 8 month = august year = 1501 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME29100[COLOR="Red"]3A[/COLOR][COLOR="Yellow"]2B[/COLOR]" #We will honor the agreement
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 257 value = -3 } #Bergslagen
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = 200 }
command = { type = trigger which = 159009 } #DAN: Sweden crowns Hans as their King
command = { type = sleepevent which = 291004 } #DAN: Swedish nobles support Sten Sture den äldre (the elder)
[COLOR="red"]command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre[/COLOR]
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291003B" #Never! Sweden shall be independent
command = { type = stability value = -7 }
command = { type = breakvassal which = DAN }
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -25 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 252 } #Småland
command = { type = revolt which = 253 } #Västergötland
command = { type = revolt which = 254 } #Svealand
command = { type = trigger which = 159010 } #DAN: Sten Sture den äldre (the elder) refuses to crown Hans
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
[COLOR="red"]command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre[/COLOR]
}
}Is it correct?
i see this
#(1482-1501) The coronation of King Hans -1-
event = {
id = 291002
trigger = {
exists = DAN
event = 159002 #DAN: The coronation of King Hans
NOT = { vassal = { country = DAN country = SWE } }
NOT = { event = 291003 } #SWE: The coronation of King Hans
}
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME291002" #The coronation of King Hans
desc = "EVENTHIST291002"
#-#In may 1482 Hans the son of Christian I and Dorothea of Brandenburg were crowned King of Denmark. According to an old agreement he was to rule both Denmark, Norway and Sweden.
date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1482 }
offset = 570
deathdate = { day = 8 month = august year = 1501 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291002A" #Stall the coronation of Hans
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -10 }
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291002B" #We will honor the agreement
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 257 value = -3 } #Bergslagen
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = 200 }
command = { type = trigger which = 159009 } #DAN: Sweden crowns Hans as their King
command = { type = sleepevent which = 291004 } #DAN: Swedish nobles support Sten Sture den äldre (the elder)
command = { type = sleepevent which = 159017 } #DAN: Sweden is stalling
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre
}
action_cb = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291002CB" #Never! Sweden shall remain independent
command = { type = stability value = -7 }
command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -25 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 252 } #Småland
command = { type = revolt which = 253 } #Västergötland
command = { type = revolt which = 254 } #Svealand
command = { type = trigger which = 159010 } #DAN: Sten Sture den äldre (the elder) refuses to crown Hans
command = { type = sleepevent which = 159017 } #DAN: Sweden is stalling
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131503 } #Hans
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131504 } #Christian II
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131509 } #Sten Sture den äldre
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131510 } #Svante Nilsson (Sture)
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131511 } #Sten Sture den yngre
}
}
and your 291003 as you indicated above
With this modification, Hans will never be crowned. Does it make sense?
Isn't SWE_291003 the historical event then, and thus should be -I- instead of -II-, according to our conventions where -I- is the historical event?
Isn't SWE_291003 the historical event then, and thus should be -I- instead of -II-, according to our conventions where -I- is the historical event?
Two changes for Sweden :
to check if Svealand is own by Sweden
modified trigger to check if the university has been built
Code:
#(1477) Uppsala University 1 - Flavor
#by Zenek K
event = {
id = 291016
[COLOR="Yellow"] trigger = {
owned = { province = 254 data = -1 } #Svealand
}[/COLOR]
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME291016" #Uppsala University
desc = "EVENTHIST291016"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1477 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1477 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291016A" #Establish it
command = { type = infra value = 200 }
command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291016B" #We cannot afford it
command = { type = vp value = -10 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 291017 } #SWE_Restoring privileges of the Uppsala University
}
}to check if Svealand is own by Sweden
Code:
#(1595-1599) Uppsala University 2 - Flavor
#by Zenek K
event = {
id = 291017
trigger = {
[COLOR="Yellow"]event = 291016 #SWE : Uppsala University 1
owned = { province = 254 data = -1 } #Svealand[/COLOR]
OR = {
religion = protestant
religion = reformed
}
}
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME291017" #Restoring privileges of the Uppsala University
desc = "EVENTHIST291017"
date = { day = 15 month = march year = 1595 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 15 month = march year = 1599 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291017A" #Confirm privileges
command = { type = infra value = 400 }
command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
command = { type = population which = 254 value = 500 } #Svealand
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291017B" #No way
command = { type = infra value = -50 }
}
}modified trigger to check if the university has been built
Last edited:
FOR_SWE_291017, Svealand should be owned too and SWE_291016 will have to be marked as already happened at the beginning of the 1520 scenario.
OK edited
Code:
#(1479) University of Copenhagen
event = {
id = 159115
[COLOR="Yellow"] trigger = {
owned = { province = 307 data = -1 } #Sjælland
}[/COLOR]
random = no
country = DAN
name = "EVENTNAME159115" #Foundation of the University of Copenhagen
desc = "EVENTHIST159115"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1479 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1479 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME159115A" #Found the university
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 1 }
command = { type = infra value = 100 }
command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 20 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME159115B" #We don't need it
command = { type = vp value = -5 }
}
}trigger added to check the ownership of copenhagen
Code:
#(1509) The Great Naval Reform
event = {
id = 3288
[COLOR="Yellow"] trigger = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 307 data = -1 } #Sjælland
owned = { province = 309 data = -1 } #Jylland
owned = { province = 306 data = -1 } #Holstein
owned = { province = 255 data = -1 } #Ostlandet
owned = { province = 256 data = -1 } #Bergenshus
owned = { province = 258 data = -1 } #Trondelag
}
}[/COLOR]
random = no
country = DAN
name = "EVENTNAME3288" #The Great Naval Reform
desc = "EVENTHIST3288"
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1509 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1509 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3288A" #Expand the Navy
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -2 }
command = { type = naval value = 2000 }
[COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = treasury value = -150 }[/COLOR]
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3288B" #Expand the Army
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 1 }
command = { type = land value = 1500 }
[COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = treasury value = -100 }[/COLOR]
}
action_c = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3288C" #Build Fortifications
command = { type = fortress which = -2 value = 1 }
command = { type = fortress which = -1 value = 1 }
command = { type = fortress which = -1 value = 1 }
command = { type = fortress which = -1 value = 1 }
[COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = treasury value = -200 }[/COLOR]
}
}
#(1610) The Modernisation of the Navy
event = {
id = 3298
[COLOR="Yellow"] trigger = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 307 data = -1 } #Sjælland
owned = { province = 309 data = -1 } #Jylland
owned = { province = 306 data = -1 } #Holstein
owned = { province = 255 data = -1 } #Ostlandet
owned = { province = 256 data = -1 } #Bergenshus
owned = { province = 258 data = -1 } #Trondelag
}
}[/COLOR]
random = no
country = DAN
name = "EVENTNAME3298" #The Modernisation of the Navy
desc = "EVENTHIST3298"
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1610 }
offset = 330
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1610 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3298A" #Reform the Navy
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -2 }
command = { type = naval value = 2000 }
[COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = treasury value = -150 }[/COLOR]
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3298B" #Reform the Army
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 1 }
command = { type = land value = 1500 }
[COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = treasury value = -100 }[/COLOR]
}
action_c = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3298C" #Build fortifications
command = { type = fortress which = -1 value = 1 }
command = { type = fortress which = -1 value = 1 }
command = { type = fortress which = -1 value = 1 }
command = { type = fortress which = -1 value = 1 }
[COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = treasury value = -200 }[/COLOR]
}
}for both events :
- ownership of a port for the fleet in the trigger
- new command to represent the cost of the reforms
Code:
#(1735-1738) Pietism
event = {
id = 3307
[COLOR="Yellow"] trigger = {
OR = {
religion = protestant
religion = reformed
}
}[/COLOR]
random = no
country = DAN
name = "EVENTNAME3307" #Pietism
desc = "EVENTHIST3307"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1735 }
offset = 720
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1738 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3307A" #Endorse Pietism
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -2 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = missionaries value = 3 }
}
}test of the religion because pietism results from Lutheranism
Code:
#(1780-1790) End of Pietism
event = {
id = 159120
[COLOR="Yellow"] trigger = {
event = 3307 #DAN : Pietism
}[/COLOR]
random = no
country = DAN
name = "EVENTNAME159120" #End of Pietism
desc = "EVENTHIST159120"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1780 }
offset = 3000
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1790 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME159120A" #How times change...
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
}
}test of the first event
Code:
#(1616) Danish East Indian Company
event = {
id = 3295
[COLOR="Yellow"] trigger = {
OR = {
event = 260059 #POR : Portuguese Indian empire firmly established
event = 3503 #HOL: Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie[/COLOR]
discovered = 575 #Madurai
discovered = 572 #Pondicherry
discovered = 571 #Madras
discovered = 565 #Yanam
discovered = 564 #Parlakimedi
discovered = 561 #Berhampur
discovered = 560 #Odissa
discovered = 558 #Howrah
discovered = 557 #Ganges
}
}
random = no
country = DAN
name = "EVENTNAME3295" #Danish East Indian Company
desc = "EVENTHIST3295"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1616 }
offset = 360
[COLOR="Yellow"]deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1650 }[/COLOR]
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3295A" #Found an East Indian Company
[COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = treasury value = -300 }[/COLOR]
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -1 }
command = { type = merchants value = 6 }
command = { type = trade value = 1000 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3295B" #It is a useless venture
command = { } #Nothing happens
}
}trigger to be sure that DAN knows East indian coast
do we need an extended timeframe for this event ?
Last edited:
I'm not sure for the Danish East Indian Company. AI Denmark is marked as a colonizer but not before 1670.
Description of the event:
The founding of the first Danish East India Company was based chiefly on hopes and ambitions that had been aroused by the enormous revenues produced by the initial ventures of the British and Dutch companies. At the same time, there was a desire upon the part of the Danish monarch to play a dominant role in contemporary world trade, a desire that was apparently not always wholeheartedly endorsed by the Danish merchants of the period. In fact, the Danish trading venture proved to be without large or durable profits. The company itself lasted for only 34 years, and, throughout its existence, the company brought only seven cargoes of Asiatic goods to Copenhagen.
We could extend the deathdate until 1650 (1616 + 34). Anyway, I don't see why colonists should be involved because this is only a trade company without any province to colonize in India or tradepost to create.
Description of the event:
The founding of the first Danish East India Company was based chiefly on hopes and ambitions that had been aroused by the enormous revenues produced by the initial ventures of the British and Dutch companies. At the same time, there was a desire upon the part of the Danish monarch to play a dominant role in contemporary world trade, a desire that was apparently not always wholeheartedly endorsed by the Danish merchants of the period. In fact, the Danish trading venture proved to be without large or durable profits. The company itself lasted for only 34 years, and, throughout its existence, the company brought only seven cargoes of Asiatic goods to Copenhagen.
We could extend the deathdate until 1650 (1616 + 34). Anyway, I don't see why colonists should be involved because this is only a trade company without any province to colonize in India or tradepost to create.
in fact they had two tradeposts in india but you're right, there is no need of colonists. So we could remove the colonists and perhaps the +1000 naval ? (few naval experience).
In counterpart we could decrease the cost of the company to 300.
I have an other source (in french) here page 436
In counterpart we could decrease the cost of the company to 300.
I have an other source (in french) here page 436
Last edited:
Yes, and with the extended deathdate, it should be fine.
Only problem with proposed trigger is AI Denmark will almost never see the event firing because there is no reason for AI Denmark to explore and discover the provinces on its own before 1670, if not involved in the siege of the capital of a colonizer country.
Perhaps we need to re-think the Danish AI again? After all, Denmark's only explorer is from 1619 to 1625.
edit: As I suspected, I was the one who pushed for 1670, citing that Denmark's explorations in 1610 were small and Danish colonizing (in America) was have a deleterious effect. I'm not sure what would be best.
Last edited:
What everyone seems to forget is the fact that in the beginning of the 16th century, all of Finland wasn't even colonised.
http://images.google.se/imgres?imgu...1&prev=/images?q=Sverige+1600&um=1&hl=sv&sa=N
See image.
http://images.google.se/imgres?imgu...1&prev=/images?q=Sverige+1600&um=1&hl=sv&sa=N
See image.
Greenland
Norway has TPs in both Greenland provinces in the GC, but doesn't know how to get there. Since the latest research on the Norse colony cannot demonstrate survival of the colony past 1430 plus/minus 15 years (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland), I propose that these TPs and the knowledge of the provinces be deleted from Norway in the GC as well as the 1520 and 1648 scenarios since Norway doesn't seem to have rediscovered it until the missionary Hans Egede set out to convert the Inuit in 1721 despite an unconfirmed report by sailors in 1484.
Norway has TPs in both Greenland provinces in the GC, but doesn't know how to get there. Since the latest research on the Norse colony cannot demonstrate survival of the colony past 1430 plus/minus 15 years (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland), I propose that these TPs and the knowledge of the provinces be deleted from Norway in the GC as well as the 1520 and 1648 scenarios since Norway doesn't seem to have rediscovered it until the missionary Hans Egede set out to convert the Inuit in 1721 despite an unconfirmed report by sailors in 1484.
Yes, I remember.
But do we need Denmark spreading TPs or colonies before 1670?
We can't separate "simple" exploration from colonization.
No we don't forget but we have to deal with the current map...
Be aware colonies will only benefit from natural growth until late because AI Denmark and Sweden will become colonizer only very late. Not the same for Muscovy and Russia if corresponding provinces are conquered by Russians.
Agreed. It seems reasonable.
Nobody else if not a player will colonize Greenland anyway. EDIT: not true: see Edit below.
What about the Danish cores granted in the 1648 scenario and by DAN_3847 (ahistorical independence of Norway)?
Remember Greenland sequence can start in 1585 (DAN_25100).
EDIT: I have the answer for the cores in 1648 scenario => to be removed (and 25100 removed of the event list for this scenario => ie. not already happened).
There is still a problem with DAN_3847. Why granting cores to Denmark on Greenland?
Should Greenland really be included in following AI files:
DAN_1440_Standard.ai => I can understand because of 1585 but still, can't we wait until 1670? or 1619-1630 (*)
ENG_1570_Drake.ai => I can understand because of 1585 but do we really need England to eventually colonize..?
FRA_1533_Cartier.ai => same as for England
(*) See post #741
Last edited:
Yes, I remember.
But do we need Denmark spreading TPs or colonies before 1670?
We can't separate "simple" exploration from colonization.
We can chunk it. Only let Denmark explore like 1619-1630 and then go back to non-colonizing till 1670. With an expansion of 1, we shouldn't see too much damage but of course we'd need to test.