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DreadLindwyrm said:
I would presume that if it was a simple solution, it would have been fixed immediately.

Since it hasn't been fixed immediately, I would think there is something complicated causing it to be difficult to prevent.
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"Between those two savegames we think we've found the bug" (from here)
That was a month ago.

I've even solved it crudely in Project Balance by simply disabling retinues for patricians. It surely can't be that hard to fix when the exact cause is known (a retinue owner dying without an heir).
 
AndrewT said:
That's referring to the patrician/retinue bug, which is indeed solved. As far as I'm aware they are still working on the autosave bug; you can contribute to this here
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...rash-during-save-or-autosave-Please-post-here
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And they also state in that thread that they are trying to account for ALL common crashes on this before they release a hotfix or patch. Sounds like an intentional attempt to be thorough, not an attempt to ignore the need to do it.
 
I feel Paradox is milking this game for all they could. I'm disappointed with the bugs and the lack of good will to fix them. I'm NOT buying The Old Gods FOR SURE. I'm not going to give my money to a company which doesn't respect its own products and its customers by not caring to fix major bugs while still making new DLC. For all that matters, the most important period and factions are already covered. Not to say The Old Gods is a bad idea but I just loath the lack of goodwill to fix major bugs. People do buy CK2 to play it you know?!

There are plenty better new games out there. Wargame AirLand Battle for example and soon steam is going on summer sale.
 
I feel Paradox is milking this game for all they could. I'm disappointed with the bugs and the lack of good will to fix them.
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And you say that after, what, 12 or 13 patch releases in the first year? Sometimes hot fixes within a week or two? Who else provides that level of commitment?
not caring to fix major bugs while still making new DLC
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Every major DLC has been accompanied by a bug-fix release. Or, to put it another way, every DLC has been held back until a bug-fix patch has been ready.
 
AndrewT said:
And you say that after, what, 12 or 13 patch releases in the first year? Sometimes hot fixes within a week or two? Who else provides that level of commitment?

Every major DLC has been accompanied by a bug-fix release. Or, to put it another way, every DLC has been held back until a bug-fix patch has been ready.
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I don't think anyone can deny Paradox did really well on the patching front last year.
I also don't think anyone can deny that Paradox has dropped the ball by leaving major crash bugs in the game for almost two months.
 
Anyone getting the autosave crash needs to contribute to the dedicated thread about it, please.
Meneth said:
I don't think anyone can deny Paradox did really well on the patching front last year.
I also don't think anyone can deny that Paradox has dropped the ball by leaving major crash bugs in the game for almost two months.
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They have simply been unable to diagnose the autosave issue, as they are not seeing it (neither am I, for the record). They didn't want to release a hotfix for just the retinue issue - which may have been a mistake, in retrospect, but I guess the thought was releasing a hotfix which didn't fix a known crash was very undesirable too.
 
AndrewT said:
They have simply been unable to diagnose the autosave issue, as they are not seeing it (neither am I, for the record). They didn't want to release a hotfix for just the retinue issue - which may have been a mistake, in retrospect, but I guess the thought was releasing a hotfix which didn't fix a known crash was very undesirable too.
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I used to have the autosave issue for time to time, but haven't in a long while...
Come to think of it, perhaps it is connected to the retinue issue? I don't believe I've had a single save crash since I disabled retinues for patricians in my mod. Though that might of course just be coincidence, it does seem a bit strange as I had it crash while saving a dozen or more times before that.

And yeah; I'm not saying they're being malicious or anything, but leaving the retinue issue in for so long really doesn't reflect well on them.
 
AndrewT said:
That's referring to the patrician/retinue bug, which is indeed solved. As far as I'm aware they are still working on the autosave bug; you can contribute to this here
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...rash-during-save-or-autosave-Please-post-here
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If it is indeed solved, then why haven't we gotten the fix? Why are you forcing us to wait for something completely unrelated? Please, I have no patience for people who complain that P'dox is "milking" or whatever, I have nothing but respect for your great work, but as you say yourself "fixes within 1 to 2 weeks" - why hasn't that happened in this case with a bug that breaks the game consistently after a certain point (if you use Republics)?

Please, give us that hotfix!
 
Can anyone tell me when was the last time paradox has released a hotfix for one of their games? I always associated hotfixes with mods. At most I thought betas were the quick and dirty patches released, not hotfixes, and in my humble opinion, a full final patch is preferable to a beta patch any day.
By they way, other games have been left in beta mode of their patches for many, many , months. People ask when the patch will be done, but often do so relatively politely. The explanation has been often "we need to do finish this patch for CK2, then we will get to that one." I've been frustrated in the past by that sentiment, but looking at the degree of apparent rage directed at the devs about getting this patch out there coming from this forum, I am beginning to see why they have been putting this game on priority,perhaps because they don't like do deal with the complaints. They have quite a few games to work on, perhaps we could take a breath and have a snickers. I bought the game too, but I think we need to put things in perspective: its a game, its not life threatening. Enjoy your day, take a walk, spend time with your family. Its worth it, really. :cool:
 
Most of the EU3 beta patches are basically hotfixes. EUR Rome was hotfixed a couple of times. They've realeased plenty of them.

And give us a break with the rest of your preaching Pete.
 
My apologies if I touched a nerve (not trying to be "preachy", though I do have that role in life). Just was trying to encourage people to let go of the negativity, because it only hurts people. I guess I'll stop suggesting that here. Again, my apologies, no hard feelings.
 
Pete0714 said:
My apologies if I touched a nerve (not trying to be "preachy", though I do have that role in life). Just was trying to encourage people to let go of the negativity, because it only hurts people. I guess I'll stop suggesting that here. Again, my apologies, no hard feelings.
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Fair enough, no apologies necessary.
 
Now, I will ask this. I've heard both so I am looking for clarification. which dlc is the trigger on the retinue issue: Rome, republics, or both? Without dlc, I assume people are not having this issue, correct? Just wondering so I might be able to decide on which dlc to switch off for now if that is the main issue.
 
Pete0714 said:
Now, I will ask this. I've heard both so I am looking for clarification. which dlc is the trigger on the retinue issue: Rome, republics, or both? Without dlc, I assume people are not having this issue, correct? Just wondering so I might be able to decide on which dlc to switch off for now if that is the main issue.
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Legacy of Rome, as the issue is connected to retinues, which only exist if you've got Legacy of Rome.
 
Meneth said:
Legacy of Rome, as the issue is connected to retinues, which only exist if you've got Legacy of Rome.
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Specifically the issue mostly has to do with Republics, as the ctd happens when a ruler with retinues dies and has no family heir. This rarely happens with nobles, but quite often with republics.

There is a way to disable retinues and still keep both Legacy and Republics as dlc's. But you have to restart the game. I'll edit it in here in a minute.

Here we are: (Note that this only works if you've installed the Prince and the Thane mod)

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?608036-MOD-The-Prince-and-the-Thane&p=15476093&viewfull=1#post15476093
 
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Dannevirke said:
If it is indeed solved, then why haven't we gotten the fix? Why are you forcing us to wait for something completely unrelated?
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It's not me - I don't work for them, I'm just a volunteer here. But I answered that in post #29 above, as best I can.


Pete0714 said:
Can anyone tell me when was the last time paradox has released a hotfix for one of their games? I always associated hotfixes with mods. At most I thought betas were the quick and dirty patches released, not hotfixes, and in my humble opinion, a full final patch is preferable to a beta patch any day.
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There were a number of hotfixes for CK2 1.05 .
 
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