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Perhaps ROM_398011 or ROM_398012 which deal with the Hussites being defeated. I don't think that the command belongs in ROM_398014 (Coronation of Prague) because it wouldn't make sense to have it as a trigger in ROM_398013 then.
Yes, but ROM_398014 comes before those two events, I have also noticed that 129040 fires just one day before 398013. However those events between BOH, SIL and ROM were and are so confusing as much as it was when dealing with the 1526 succession to the Hungarian throne...
 
Hmm? ROM_398011 and 398012 are triggers for ROM398014.
Sorry, I have confused the things. I wanted to say that ROM_398014 comes before events BOH_129040 and ROM_398013 and that those two events the former fires just one day before the latter.

That is if ROM_398014 fires, those two events, ROM_398011 and 398012, won't ever test the flag. So in conclusion I have seen 398014 is to be excluded, as you said a couple of posts ago...
 
Hi whats the point going Hussite when you ether go back to Catholic Bohemia yes earn some land or annex Austria Hungary and other near by Germany small states and Poland and Masova and maybe even Lithurnaia.

Or take some Providences and force religion Hussite on all the states.

But you still have over -150 relation with entire EUROPE ENTIRE so one by one all of Europe Declares war on you and you can have the Best General/s big army and stable income with inflation at round five not going up with tech going up but you are doomed in the long run i try ed it many times and trust me your doomed.
Maybe you can conquer entire Europe but that is just Fuked up in my opinion plus no events with the Hussite after like 1500.

My point is why why why is it like this why are there not more events for the |Hussite just like for Byzantium and Saint Order Of Jon i mean i think this is ridiculous and not fair in term of gameplay how not even having the choice to play with Hussite or make events for them and make them playable as logically when Martin Luther comes in play Europe starts having everywhere all over Europe religion transformation revolts in almost all major cities so i think this is non sense to be honest.

hack i think it should make the HRE in bad relation ship with the Hussite and Pope and other Nations but NOT ENTIRE EUROPE that is FFFFF non sense to me.

So i think there is no point of playing Bohemia only if you go Bohemia or Hussite and back to Bohemia WOOOOOOOOOW.

peace just had to express my though my feeling to this matter.
 
I just came back from the Bathroom light up a Cig drink some coke and got a thought.

I think that there are many Fantasy mods out there why no Hussite Fantasy mod that would be nice it would start from the Hussite Wars.
There should be events for example end the Hussite war but install a Republic and Freedom of Religion me full Plotocratic nation with free subjects and sign a Treat with the the Pope that stops the war and bla bla bla there are so many events and paths you can make for the Hussites um Hussites push back the Ottomans and make the countries under there rule free 100 plus relations ship with hole Europe that would be nice i just want to say whats the problem with modders this game company to do this.

If i knew how to mod or had the time to learn to mod script i would make my own mod but i do not so i think if this company does mini mods for other games for sale why not for this game i mean would if of not be fair and to be honest i think they would earn good money i would buy a small mod from this company for lets say three five bucks i think many folks would even for big patches but doing nothing and letting good games die and melt alway is a wrong bussiness plan there doing this now making new games and getttnig more and more issues and getting more customers that do not trust there products now and instead go looking for other companies or just boycott there products.

-Peace
 
Jan Ziska was over 200 years ahead of the time in Warfare strategy i think he deserves more than there is in this game.
 
Typo in event HUN188122 and 188123

I could have sworn that I already mentioned that somewhere - but the typo is still in.

In event HUN 188122 several cores are removed. However in my current game as the Ottomans I noticed that HUN still has a core on Bosnia - even if it has lost cores on all lands around it :rolleyes:

command = { type = removecore which = 354364 } #Bosnia

The error is that Bosnia is province 364 not 354 for both options a and b

Same error in HUN 188123 option a and b.
 
Emperor Anarchy

FtG has a new option for monarchs that can prevent them from being elected Emperor of the HRE.

e.g. Anarchy of Bohemia whom I despise since I saw them too often in EU2 become Emperor...

Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 022503 }
	name = "Anarchy"
	startdate = {
		day = 28
		month = october
		year = 1439
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1446
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
        [color=yellow]emperor = no[/color]
}

For comparison the vanilla FtG Switzerland (HEL) monarch:
historicalmonarch = {
## HEL
id = { type = 6 id = 2076 }
name = "Tagsatzung"
startdate = { year = 1315 }
enddate = { year = 1820 }
DIP = 6
MIL = 6
ADM = 6
emperor = no
}

Should I post that in the Germany thread too? Because the AGCEEP HEL Tagsatzungen-monarchs should all be prevented from becoming Emperor.
 
Jan Ziska was over 200 years ahead of the time in Warfare strategy i think he deserves more than there is in this game.

The Hussites gain a bonus to land morale in addition to Ziska´s statistics as a leader due to their religion:
land_morale = 0.50
and that when no other christian relgion exists with such a bonus.
 
FtG has a new option for monarchs that can prevent them from being elected Emperor of the HRE.

e.g. Anarchy of Bohemia whom I despise since I saw them too often in EU2 become Emperor...

Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 022503 }
	name = "Anarchy"
	startdate = {
		day = 28
		month = october
		year = 1439
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1446
	}
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 4
	dormant = no
        [color=yellow]emperor = no[/color]
}

For comparison the vanilla FtG Switzerland (HEL) monarch:
historicalmonarch = {
## HEL
id = { type = 6 id = 2076 }
name = "Tagsatzung"
startdate = { year = 1315 }
enddate = { year = 1820 }
DIP = 6
MIL = 6
ADM = 6
emperor = no
}

Should I post that in the Germany thread too? Because the AGCEEP HEL Tagsatzungen-monarchs should all be prevented from becoming Emperor.

Good catch! And yes, you should post the HEL monarch change in the other thread, just for consistence.
 
I cannnot find which events set [Hussites_suppressed] flag for 129040 "Death of Ladislaus Postumus" for Bohemia and 398013 "Death of Ladislaus Postumus" for Romanists... Is it something wrong ?

In order to finally put this matter to bed - proposed fix:
Code:
#(1419-1499) Hussites defeated
event = {
	id = 398011 #triggered by SIL_401013 A
	random = no
	country = ROM
	name = "EVENTNAME398011" #Victory against the Hussites
	desc = "EVENTHIST398011"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "GREAT"
		command = { type = inherit which = SIL }
		command = { type = inherit which = BOH } #just in case
		[color=yellow]command = { type = setflag which = [Hussites_suppressed] }[/color]
		command = { type = vp value = 200 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 315 value = -14 } #Moravia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 327 value = -4 } #Ostmarch
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 328 value = -4 } #Bohemia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 329 value = -6 } #Erz
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 330 value = -14 } #Sudeten
		#command = { type = ai which = peaceful.ai }
	}
}

#(1419-1499) Catholicism prevails
event = {
	id = 398012
	trigger = {
		NOT = { exists = SIL }
		NOT = { event = 398011 } #ROM: Victory against the Hussites
		NOT = { flag = [settlement] }
	}
	random = no
	country = ROM
	name = "EVENTNAME398012" #Catholicism prevails
	desc = "EVENTHIST398012"
	#-#

	date = { day = 18 month = august year = 1419 }
	offset = 1
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1499 }

	action_a = {
		name = "GREAT"
		command = { type = inherit which = BOH } #just in case
		[color=yellow]command = { type = setflag which = [Hussites_suppressed] }[/color]
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 315 value = -14 } #Moravia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 327 value = -4 } #Ostmarch
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 328 value = -4 } #Bohemia
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 329 value = -6 } #Erz
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 330 value = -12 } #Sudeten
		#command = { type = ai which = peaceful.ai }
	}
}

#(1457) Death of Ladislaus Postumus - Ahistorical
event = {
	id = 129040
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			event = 129002 #BOH: The fate of the Bohemian Hussites
			flag = [Hussites_suppressed] #Bohemia reformed by Romanists
			[color=yellow]ROM = { flag = [Hussites_suppressed] }[/color]
		}
		exists = HAB
	}
	random = no
	country = BOH
	name = "EVENTNAME129040" #Death of Ladislaus Postumus
	desc = "EVENTHIST129040"
	#-#

	date = { day = 22 month = november year = 1457 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME129040A" #Oldrich z Rozmberka shall be King
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 022528 } #Oldrich I *
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 022506 } #Jiri z Podiebrad
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRM value = -100 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 129048 } #BOH: Ostmarch and Habsburgs Hereditary Lands
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME129040B" #Jiri z Podiebrad shall be King
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = SAC value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -100 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 129048 } #BOH: Ostmarch and Habsburgs Hereditary Lands
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME129040C" #Emperor Frederick shall be King (End Game)
		command = { type = trigger which = 179603 } #HAB: Inheritance of Bohemia
	}
}

Currently just added ROM flag check to Bohemia as I'm not sure whether the game should look at BOH's flags or ROM's flags when Romanists form Bohemia.
 
Currently just added ROM flag check to Bohemia as I'm not sure whether the game should look at BOH's flags or ROM's flags when Romanists form Bohemia.
Is this after ROM no longer exists? If so, I would think the flags would be set for BOH. Or it might be safer to use a third country like MUS or REB as a variable storage facility.
 
Is this after ROM no longer exists? If so, I would think the flags would be set for BOH. Or it might be safer to use a third country like MUS or REB as a variable storage facility.

Yeah once ROM has turned into BOH, what happens with the flags?

That said - good call. Probably easiest just to have MUS keep track of the relevant flag.
 
The Silesian question

I wanted to make a separate discussion about this. Bare in mind that I do not have a firm opinion what course of action should be best here.

Also, remember that most people in Silesia in 1419 did not live under direct Bohemian rule. Most lived in the still independant Piast dynasty small duchies (which were vassals of teh Czech King, but separate from the bohemian crown and passed down along the local piast dynasties).

So I can see Silesia being German, Polish or unique "Silesian" culture. Any combination of the above really, but NOT Czech or Bohemian.

Overall I'm not sure if we want to add a new culture for just a single province, but the most historically sound solution would be to have Silesia start as an separate country game-wise (vassal of Bohemia) with sielesian culture. Sometime in the early 1500s there should be a check of who owns the prvince - if Poland, then culture changes to Polish. If Bohemia, Austria or Brandenburg, then it changes to german. If Silesia is still independant, it should stay silesian.

The big question is: Should Silesia start out as a separate country?

The silesian duchies at that time were vassals to the bohemian crown, but they were separate states with separate dynasties ruling them. If they were a single big duchy then I would strongly suggest making them a separate country.
However... the issue is that it was not a single duchy. It was a series of smaller states and one very large de-facto independant bishophoric (Breslau).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Brzeg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Opole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Racib%C3%B3rz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Troppau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Cieszyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Ole%C5%9Bnica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_G%C5%82og%C3%B3w
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_%C5%BBaga%C5%84

That list of independant states should alone show you the scale if the dynastic issues inside the region. What makes matters even worse is that one of the largest independant "states" were the lands of the prince-bishops of Breslau:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-bishopric_of_Breslau#Silesian_duchies_.28Poland.27s_fragmentation.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Legnica

So... as you see the whole issue is complex. Possible options are these:

1) Retain Silesia as a non-indepedant regular region owned by Bohemia in-game. This is an easy but very simplistic and historicallly incorrect solution. The best part of this solution, despite its inaccuracy is that its simple and does not require a series of events concerning the duchies.

2) Make Silesia an independant country in-game (starts out as vassal of Bohemia) with a "Silesian Dukes" as monarch (similar solution to several other FtG states). Neither Bohemia, nor Poland should start out with a core or claimcore on Silesia, but both could get one as a result of events and both should automatically get a claimcore if they own Silesia at any given moment before 1650 (for example through diploannex).

3) Similar to option 2, but instead have the Opole-Racibórz Piast Line the monarchs of the country n-game (as arguably, these were the most important and powerfull ones). With the death of Jan IIhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_II_the_Good, there should be an event checking if Silesia is a vassal of Bohemia, Poland, Brandenburg or Austria. If it is, then the liege inherits silesia. If Silesia is not a vassal of any of these states, then passed down to the monarchs of the Oleśnica dynasty, which rule until the end of the game. Neither Bohemia, nor Poland should start out with a core or claimcore on Silesia, but both could get one as a result of events and both should automatically get a claimcore if they own Silesia at any given moment before 1650 (for example through diploannex).

4) Similar to option 2, but instead have the bishops of Breslau act as the in-game monarchs. Neither Bohemia, nor Poland should start out with a core or claimcore on Silesia, but both could get one as a result of events and both should automatically get a claimcore if they own Silesia at any given moment before 1650 (for example through diploannex).

I'm not sure which option to take, but I'm leaning to option 3.
 
I wanted to make a separate discussion about this. Bare in mind that I do not have a firm opinion what course of action should be best here.



The big question is: Should Silesia start out as a separate country?

The silesian duchies at that time were vassals to the bohemian crown, but they were separate states with separate dynasties ruling them. If they were a single big duchy then I would strongly suggest making them a separate country.
However... the issue is that it was not a single duchy. It was a series of smaller states and one very large de-facto independant bishophoric (Breslau).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Brzeg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Opole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Racib%C3%B3rz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Troppau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Cieszyn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Ole%C5%9Bnica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_G%C5%82og%C3%B3w
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_%C5%BBaga%C5%84

That list of independant states should alone show you the scale if the dynastic issues inside the region. What makes matters even worse is that one of the largest independant "states" were the lands of the prince-bishops of Breslau:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince-bishopric_of_Breslau#Silesian_duchies_.28Poland.27s_fragmentation.29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Legnica

So... as you see the whole issue is complex. Possible options are these:

1) Retain Silesia as a non-indepedant regular region owned by Bohemia in-game. This is an easy but very simplistic and historicallly incorrect solution. The best part of this solution, despite its inaccuracy is that its simple and does not require a series of events concerning the duchies.

2) Make Silesia an independant country in-game (starts out as vassal of Bohemia) with a "Silesian Dukes" as monarch (similar solution to several other FtG states). Neither Bohemia, nor Poland should start out with a core or claimcore on Silesia, but both could get one as a result of events and both should automatically get a claimcore if they own Silesia at any given moment before 1650 (for example through diploannex).

3) Similar to option 2, but instead have the Opole-Racibórz Piast Line the monarchs of the country n-game (as arguably, these were the most important and powerfull ones). With the death of Jan IIhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_II_the_Good, there should be an event checking if Silesia is a vassal of Bohemia, Poland, Brandenburg or Austria. If it is, then the liege inherits silesia. If Silesia is not a vassal of any of these states, then passed down to the monarchs of the Oleśnica dynasty, which rule until the end of the game. Neither Bohemia, nor Poland should start out with a core or claimcore on Silesia, but both could get one as a result of events and both should automatically get a claimcore if they own Silesia at any given moment before 1650 (for example through diploannex).

4) Similar to option 2, but instead have the bishops of Breslau act as the in-game monarchs. Neither Bohemia, nor Poland should start out with a core or claimcore on Silesia, but both could get one as a result of events and both should automatically get a claimcore if they own Silesia at any given moment before 1650 (for example through diploannex).

I'm not sure which option to take, but I'm leaning to option 3.

I vote for #2

anything which will decrease the power of ROM and BOH

By the way, if you start this in 1419, you need to rearrange the hussite war sequence as ROM is based out of Silesia. Maybe Silesia should emerge afer the hussites have disappeared and BOH forms ( any easy way to get around the problem)
 
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The big question is: Should Silesia start out as a separate country?

The silesian duchies at that time were vassals to the bohemian crown, but they were separate states with separate dynasties ruling them. If they were a single big duchy then I would strongly suggest making them a separate country.

They were not as you yourself stated - so why consider it?

Those tiny duchies were much less than "vassals" in gameterms. A vassal has a completely independant state and only pays tribute and loses the options to make royal marriages.

If "Silesia" would be created it would be another one-province-minor and vassal of Bohemia that quickly vanishes. Either annexed by someone else if it is not put into Bohemias alliance or diploannexed by Bohemia because they still will be bigger and richer than Silesia.

However... the issue is that it was not a single duchy. It was a series of smaller states and one very large de-facto independant bishophoric (Breslau).
...
That list of independant states should alone show you the scale if the dynastic issues inside the region. What makes matters even worse is that one of the largest independant "states" were the lands of the prince-bishops of Breslau:
...
So... as you see the whole issue is complex. Possible options are these:

There is no complex issue. We have a *lot* of tiny states that are not represented as a state on our map. The HRE alone could field 300 states that are so small that only few of them rule even half of a province of our map. Most of them are simply left out because of several reasons: Every province needs to be at least so large to be clickable. Miniscule duchys can´t be made with that so only the most important realms of a province can be used.

1) Retain Silesia as a non-indepedant regular region owned by Bohemia in-game. This is an easy but very simplistic and historicallly incorrect solution. The best part of this solution, despite its inaccuracy is that its simple and does not require a series of events concerning the duchies.

I´m for this. Let it stay as it currently is: Bohemia in the game splits into Romanists and Hussites and Silesia even as capital of the Romanists. And with only 1 province the Romanists would quickly be annexed in one war by the Hussites what we don´t want. The small duchys of Silesia have been vassals of Bohemia for a very long time in 1419 and are less than a "vassal" in our game. Every single of the Duchys is too small to be represented and none ever controlled the entire Silesia province. A one province Silesia-state would quickly fall to some neighbour if no precautions are taken to prevent that - better leave it be part of Bohemia in 1419.

2) Make Silesia an independant country in-game (starts out as vassal of Bohemia) with a "Silesian Dukes" as monarch (similar solution to several other FtG states). Neither Bohemia, nor Poland should start out with a core or claimcore on Silesia, but both could get one as a result of events and both should automatically get a claimcore if they own Silesia at any given moment before 1650 (for example through diploannex).

That is not a good solution. The duchys were vassals of Bohemia so it would be a one-province minor vassal of Bohemia unable to make royal marriages and likely to either be annexed in one war or diploannexed by Bohemia - and raising their BB for gaining a province that they indirectly through vassals of the king ruled.
 
"Should Silesia start out as a separate country?"
- They were not as you yourself stated - so why consider it?
Because Silesia was not one country, yet it was a number of separate countries, most vassals of Bohemia but not owned by Bohemia as the current version of AGCEEP depicts.

so it would be a one-province minor vassal of Bohemia unable to make royal marriages and likely to either be annexed in one war or diploannexed by Bohemia

Actually that is exactly what heppened in history and what I think should happen in-game. Thing is, now Bohemia starts owning Silesia from day 1. In my opinion, it should be at least forced to invest some effort in diploannexing it. And fast too, since the poles or brandenburgers might move in if its left alone for too long. These were very real threats in the early 15th century. Also, there was a very real Hussite threat to silesia which would actually be represented now that it won't be the capital of Romanist Bohemia anymore.

By the way, if you start this in 1419, you need to rearrange the hussite war sequence as ROM is based out of Silesia. Maybe Silesia should emerge afer the hussites have disappeared and BOH forms ( any easy way to get around the problem)
That part is pretty ahistorical, since of all the realms that fought against the hussites, the silesian duchies were probably the most unenthusiastic. I think ROM could be based out of Moravia and that would be a better solution, even if we keep Silesia as part of Bohemia.

Ok, so we so far have 1 for option 1, one for option 2. I'm leaning to option 2, but i'm not convinced yet. As far as I go, i think tests would be needed to see how it all goes down in-game. I'm also watiging to see what other people like Gabron say about this.
 
Gabron? ;)

I'm for option 1 with much the same logic as Conjurer. I'm generally against introducing one province minors unless there is a very compelling reason / some sort of proof that it won't cause issues. I kinda foresee Silesia getting eaten up quick if we make it independent.