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For "sport" i prefer to invade France. :D
 
aww :( well im sure u got a good memory ^^
 
id invade russia if it wasnt for that dreaded snow
 
You obviously mean Sweden, drake.
 
Bucking ham can surely try his luck assaulting the large fort in moscow.

Russian people are hungry and poor due to the last destructive war where Russia had to fight against half the world, so they might eat him alive simply because his name makes them remember of ham.
 
Ottoman Empire
1598-1625

In 1598, the King of Poland finally came back to his throne, winding up the period of anarchy in his realm, what allowed our alliance to begin a major offensive against Russian Empire. We both agreed to a non-aggression pact with German alliance. I didn’t support that idea, but Dane claimed that he can handle them. Moreover, he took a part in the invasion, hoping to get Burman centre of trade. I warned him that he is overstretching his military, especially because he didn’t think that Spain will intervene. I was also pretty sure that we will lose our war against Russia.​
We were in rush since we wanted to exploit the fact that Russian army was equipped much poorer than Turkish and French troops. Our invasion began in April 1599, and the main battlefield was a northern sector of the Russian-Polish border, where Poles were trying to capture Moscow. Meanwhile, Ottoman army captured all the Russian frontier fortresses with quick assaults and approached Astrakhan and Voronezh, meeting no resistance at the beginning of the war. French captured Bangok and attacked Russian centre of trade in China.​
In the second phase of the war Tsar launched a counterattack which led to two bloody battles on the eastern Ukrainian fields, that eventually stopped Russian advance with severe casualties on both sides. After securing my positions there, I moved toward nearly defenseless Astrakhan. Ego brought another army, that tried to prevent my forces to siege and assault his fortress. Battle would end up with a massacre of his unit but he accepted a stabhit and the war with Russia was over. Poland gained two provinces while France – Bangok.​
France was attacked twice by the German alliance and Spain during those years. Both times Dane had to accept stabhit, what caused him to lose Zanzibar and Genoa. Also, Russia used France’s exhaustion and reconquered its former centre of trade. Those wars resulted in a substantial decline of the French Empire. I was at least partially right then.​
The economy of the Ottoman Empire strengthened during that period because after the war, I didn’t involve in any other conflict, and focused on what was my primary target for at least half of the century. I managed to build nine weapons manufactories financed from my savings and a help from England (thanks, Drake!). I also got another one fine arts academy from annexed vassal, and two refineries that I built later (one is still on the way). All of that made my income grow significantly, and it seems that Empire isn’t doomed after all.​

Reward:
Let the next 'rat' decide.
 
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Tsardom of Russia 1598-1625


The Times of Troubles

First of, let me tell you something that hapened last session prior to the 1598-1625 session. When Austria declared war on the Ottoman Empire, i was going to support them by attacking the Turks as well, but i wasnt able because Husky threatned to quit if i did.

Secondly, most of you, my dear readers, are unaware, but i was ghosted for the last 2 years of gameplay, minting all the time. These 2 years would be enough to reach LT 18, a crucial technology that provides us with a new CRT.

Now, during the session of 1598-1625, i got attacked right at the start before i even had a chance to reach the LT 18 CRT that i would have been able to reach if i wasnt ghosted while minting.

This attack was composed of France, Poland and Our dear Friend the Ottoman Empire. Yes, the Ottoman Empire. The one who threatned to quit if i attacked him on a 2v1. I guess 2v1 against the poor OE is unfair, but when it comes to Russia it is the most fair of wars even if it is a 3v1. More of the matter i will not say, but i guess everyone can reach a real nice conclusion regarding this event.

Now - Poland. They had been ghosted for an entire session. After their long sleep, they woke up with 10000d in their pocket, and with leaders with 5 and 6 shock each. The best Russia had was a 243 (with offensive/quality) if memory serves.

As for France, their army wasnt really that big, but in China, where recruitment is very hard to conduct, their army was huge. France participated with 70k or little more than that during the entire war. My forces in China were only about 30k at that time and without any manpower or european province in China (in order to hire mercenaries or recruit troops), i wasnt able to reinforce my army. Therefore French participation proved fatal to Russia - they were able to conquer 2 COTs for cheap warscore.

As for the entire war - well, i have to say that it was quite a joke. The war lasted... 2 years? In 2 years i lost my entire manpower pool and i had less than 150.000 men standing once peace was signed.

Lets go into details. War starts, France lays siege to 2 my COTs, and is rebuffed from one of them with hardly any casualty to me. The OE goes crazy sieging everything they get their hands with, with their full army. Their FULL army. I believe during a single stage of the war i saw about 300.000 turks INSIDE my borders. What the...? Due to the lack of leaders all the battles were quite nasty for both sides - i was pratically fighting with default leaders at that time. Still, i hardly lost a battle against the OE. Possibly 2 or 3 at the worst. In the far north, near Moscow, Poland ran around with full infantry stacks (with an army around 150k-200k total) assaulting my forts, sucessfully doing such against minimal ones, but failing absolutely when it came to medium ones mostly due to well timed sorties from my part. The Poles also kept retreating when winter came, which enabled me to retake all those sweet minimals back with exception of Vyazma and Velikia which i never had the balls and the means to reconquer due to their position. To be frank, i only recall losing a battle against Poland. During this time, my army in China had been totaly overwhelmed and reduced to 10k since it was impossible to deal with the huge french numbers. Therefore, 2 COTs came under French control. During that same time, the Turkish front was basically impossible to hold: The Turks themselves had a bit more manpower than i did, and the simple fact that they continuously attacked me with everything they had, even without any real victory from their part, depleted my manpower pool in no time.

When the first stab hit came, i took a deep breath and looked my surroundings and my position: 2 COTs in Asia lost, another 2 vulnerable for further french attacks, 5 or so provinces taken by the Turks, 2 by the Poles, 0 manpower left in my manpower pool, 150k men left, and both the Turkish-Polish army still at their peak. The conclusion was easy to reach: the war was lost. It was lost the moment it started. Despite the fact that i hardly lost a battle at all, my manpower pool was not infinite and i could not deal with 3 nations all by myself. The Ottomans themselves, as i stated before, had a manpower pool pratically as big as mine, while poland had something close to 100.

So, lets make a big list of the important events that hapened so far:

- I am ghosted for 2 years while minting instead of teching LT
- Poland is ghosted for an entire sesson and gets 10000d as treasury
- The OE threatens to quit if i attack him in a 2v1 the previous session
- France+OE+Poland attack me in a 3v1 gang
- OE attacks me probably with something like 250-400k troops
- France attacks me with something like 50-70k troops
- Poland attacks me with something between 150-200k troops
- Russia itself had only a standing army of about 300-400k troops, about 100k which were all over the place in colonies.
- All the involved nations got LT 18 while i still have LT 17 due to the fact i was ghosted while minting
- Poland got some real good shockers with 5 or 6 shock each
- War ends in less than 2 years with more than 8000d lost on the Russian side (and hardly a battle lost!).

I will not make any commentaries about what i think of this big list, although i believe what is obvious, is, obvious. Still, i would like to highlight the initial points of this big list, notably, the OE's threats, and the way he behaved afterwards.

After the war i decided to sign a NAP with all the beligerent nations, except for France. I thought no one expected me to attack France due to my shitty fleet, but his fleet wasnt powerful enough either to protect all his posessions. So after France ends up their last war against Austria and their little allies, i attack France.

I was honorable enough to attack france alone and to wait for the end of his war, instead of attacking him during his war with austria. I had also recruited a lot of men and went far above my army supply limit - given the fact that Poland dishonoured their word, they could simply dishonour their non agression pact with me as well, so i was prepared for an eventual attack.

The war with France went very well - after the DOW took place, i was sieging like 8 french provinces at the same time, 2 of which were COTs. Given his fleet he could have put up a fight, but he decided to give up imediately. He probably knew that before he finished the fight with me, his truce with Austria would expire and he would get attacked again with very high WE in europe.

So in the end, i basically lost only 2 european provinces. But i lost too much money fighting and my economically barely increased at all despite the fact that my realm got a lot of more provinces.

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Session bonus: -0.5 inflation
AAr bonus: -0.5 inflation
 
Edits for France:

Kurnool returned.
Rebels in Saan, Khami, Tanaga, Madras, Macao and Hong-Kong deleted.
Malindi returned from Rebel control.
2185D into LT (95D/year for 23 years from Kurnool)
1233D into LT (64D + 73D/year for 9 years from Saan and Khami)
909D into LT (19D + 22D + 22D +17D +21D/year for 9 years from Macao, Madras, Malindi, Tanga and Hong-Kong)

Infra tech reduced to 6, with a current investment of 10,000D and 13771D invested into LT. (861 (current investment) + (22910 (total cost) -10000)

Mercantilism -1, slider date set to 1616.

-4 BB
 
You really don't see any difference between attacking someone in a gang while his allies are ghosted and doing that while they're in the game?

The moment u threatned to quit because your allies decided they had better things to do then play, you lost all reason in my eyes.
 
england aar

while europe & some parts of asia have been in flames for decades this week england stayed out of any war exept for a small intervention vs sweden to even the tide in the french-german war, altho we intervened no actual fighting took place so sadly i got little to talk about

a conquistador spawned in North america and used that to map the entire continent, after that we started covering the westcoast of north america to prevent any unwanted expansion there from russian or swedish or any other players
during all this europe was atwar and england was not tryng to stay out, we did send a few gifts & 2loans in 2wars to brandenburg to help that little guy out, not that it mattert in the end it seems as brandenburg eventually fell to swedish insanely overpowert leadership

other then that england aided ottoman empire in some weapon manu building on condition gold would not be used to fight anybody and only for weapon manus(also they payed most of the gold themself stil for the manus they build)

other then that navaho has been annexed and dakota will be shortly
most of the worldcoast has been mapped by the english fleet & our economy is doing pretty good

during all this the english empire was able to boost the internal stability of the realm and invest heavely in the infrastructure & find new ways to make trade profitable, therefor we are pleased to be at 7infra & 7trade tech by the end of this session wich is a vast improvement of 28years ago, and we hope the speed of this development will continiu altho it does apear that england is currently a bit lacking in land & naval tech and thats a bit of a troubling prospect something we hope to fix in the near future

edits :
-1inflation
2random conversions(gunpowder plot did not work again even tho it grants 2random conversions the effect not apear or convert anything, especially annoyng as i only had 1-3pagan prov cherokee, flandren & qeshm unconverted at the time)
 
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You really don't see any difference between attacking someone in a gang while his allies are ghosted and doing that while they're in the game?

There are multiple ways of doing said thing. But when you take a radical step like threatnening to quit you lose all the reason you have got.
 
deflation for spain 1625 session
 
deflation for BB.