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chefkoch said:
does anyone knows other cities that get their trade fair privilege after 1419?
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BOLZANO (Bozen)

The nearby founded village was called Bauzanum. Bolzano has been a trading point since its foundation and elevation to a town over 800 years ago, due to its location in between the two major cities of Venice and Augsburg. Four times a year a market was held and traders came from the south and the north. The mercantile magistrate was therefore founded in 1635. Every market season two Venetian and two Austrian officers (appointed from the traders who operated there) worked in this office. The city was a cultural crosspoint at that time.

There is an interesting battle fought in the area which involved the control of the trade fair. In 1487 Tyrol (not Austria) forces invaded the venetian territory, captured 130 venetian merchants (as they where going to the fair) and all their trade goods, the venetian army moved up and fought the tyrolese on the river adige, near caliano. the venetian forces where taken by surprise while crossing a bridge , and some drown, notably the venetian commander Roberto Sanseverino, the second in command (Guido de Rossi) took charge , rallied the venetian troops and fought back.
results where 1500 tyrol dead and 300 venetian dead. A year later truce was made , 130 merchants returned back to Venice without their goods.
 
chefkoch said:
creating the german kingdom with the teutonic order
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i tried that and copied and changed the events for another german minor state. my problem is now waking up the monarchs and leaders.

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name = "VIVAT"
command = { type = setflag which = Germany_xxxxxxxxxxxx } #might be needed, who knows
#Teutonic Order monarchs
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 075500 } #Michael Küchmeister von Sternberg
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whats the name of the teutonic order dynasty?
 
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I will take a look at the new proposals but I probably won't be able to write an answer untill tuesday.

I still need feedback for the Reiterkrieg as it represents a crucial part of the eastern event chains determining wether the TO actualy will survive. If the victory condition (Danzig owned by the Order) is to hard or to easy to achieve it could possibly screw the eastern theatre.

regarding Bohemia: cores on this teritory will be given but that will not represent Bohemia's integration into the "German Kingdom" but a further centralization of the Holy Roman Empire and an extension of the Emperor's authority as well as a possible inheritance. Much like Hungary does not become a part of Austria but is integrated into the Habsburg domains Bohemia does not become a part of Germany but is integrated into the Imperial domains.

whats the name of the teutonic order dynasty?
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The TO was no Monarchy thus they had no "Dynasty". The formation of "Germany" in AGCEEP evolves in the context of the Reichsreform and thus makes it impossible for the TO to form Germany.
 
The Baltic circle seems to be a good Idea for the eastern event chain as it would give us a good reason for Germany inheriting the Teutonic Order. Historicaly there was no Baltic Circle but Kurland was formaly a part of the HRE even though only for a short time this could happen in context of the historical Secularization of the Baltic Order wich would be Emperor's pretext for a more direct administration of the Order's territory.

The Italian wars 1508-1556 should also be integrated although that will happen through adaption and modification of the events wich are already present.
 
SorelusImperion said:
The Baltic circle seems to be a good Idea for the eastern event chain as it would give us a good reason for Germany inheriting the Teutonic Order. Historicaly there was no Baltic Circle but Kurland was formaly a part of the HRE even though only for a short time this could happen in context of the historical Secularization of the Baltic Order wich would be Emperor's pretext for a more direct administration of the Order's territory.
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i mailed you the eventchain i had already for that. for the others: sorry but i had it only with german text and so it wouldn't be that nice to post it here. but i will tell you the steps/ideas

1: danzig is in hand of the KoG and changes culture and gets a tradecenter
2: all of the territories of the teutonic order are annexed by the KoG
2a: poland gets a casus belli on KoG (through giving cores on danzig etc.)
3: memel and prussia change culture
3a: lithuania declares war on KoG because of step 3
3b: poland declares war on KoG because of step 3
4: when poland and lithuania are vassals and kurland is conquered, danzig, memel, prussia and kurland get cores
5: rebellion in estland, livland and ingermanland by german nights because these territories were formerly hold by the two german nightorders and they (the knights -> not dead just under new management ;)) can now easily overpower the locals with lithuania a german vassal and reestablish their power in the name and with help of the KoG
5a: poland lose estland, livland and ingermanland if it ows one of these
5b: lithuania lose estland, livland and ingermanland if it ows one of these
5c: sweden lose estland, livland and ingermanland if it ows one of these
6: poland lose its cores on danzig, prussia etc and the creating of the baltic circle is done.

result:
danzig, prussia, memel and kurland have german culture and cores
estland, livland and ingermanland belong the the KoG. they shouldn't get german culture but i'm unsure with giving cores or not after the rebellion.
 
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playing with KoG could be pretty boring because there are not enough events. i made some events which makes the KoG a colonialnation. there are now more than 165 non-linear events (125 of these for the KoG) which covers 260 years (i'm thinking about more). non-linear because the players decisions can decide if the events change the KoG in a minor colonialpower or a superpower. if you want to play strictly historical, you can give the colonies to the historic correct time away. i used only places which were in history colonies by the german states brandenburg, austria and courland. the ahistorical mainevent plays in the welser-colony in southamerica where the player has to deal with the inka empire and spain. i would like to post them but i need some help with the translation from german to english, i would make dozens of failures in each description. ;)
(the same with my version of a baltic circle^^)
 
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Oh, I'd really like to play those events with KoG but I don't understand German. Maybe if you'd provide your translation I could correct them and make them sound better in English? I'd even be willing to write completely new event text if only you provide me with short descriptions in English.
 
i could probably help although neither german or english is my innate language but i think my english is rather good and i understand german rather well so if you could let me see some texts i could probably help.
 
thanks for the offer :)

okay i think i'm done. i don't think that there is something missing in the main-colony and for now i have no clue what for a story i should create for the small one-province-colonies in africa and asia ...maybe later. in sum i have now 191 events (151 for KoG) and i got depressions while testing the alternative way and see all odds against me and then smiling at the and - finally peace^^ ;)

so if you want to help me with translation/correction then please give me your email-addresses. tomorrow just checking the financial balance (your huge investments should bring a good RoI) and then i will start next week.
 
okay i need much longer for that than i thought 'cos a friend of me does the translatingjob ;)

so i have more time to make some more events or better stories for germany.

Baltic:
when you vassalize lithuania and poland and when you own kurland and the lands of the teutonic order, you can establish the baltic circle. when the circle is created, you get the whole baltic marche - the territories of the livonian order. why? if poland and lithuania are no more a threat for the german crusaders, no one could stop them in their area if they have the KoG behind them.
pink the baltic marche; white the baltic circle


Reichsitalien (northern italy):
if you own all the HRE italy territories, you can choice if you wanna keep them (and get cores on them) or if you wanna found a italian kingdom.


Southern italy:
when you own the 4 southern italian provinces, you can found another italian puppet.


France:
playing germany, you have the urgent need to go after france, what if you were sucessful? you can choice splitting france in 4 equal french minors, split france between your neighbours (you can choice the constellations) or to keep all, get french culture and became the rightous heir of 'Karl the Great'.


turkey wars:
i let the eight turkey wars with german participation happen. in the first one, i strength the ottomans so they will be a tough enemy.

byzanz:
russia had the plan to refound byzanz in their last turkey war, so its a possible idea for the KoG to do the same. see it as the second latin empire (the first one installed by german and venetian crusaders). when you own the provinces around the ägäis, you can free the byzantine empire. they will get all of your asia minor and southern balkan provinces - so its up to you how big they start. the capital of the ottomans will switch from thrace to anatolia and then to iraq, so you can expel the infidels from europe.


crusade & teutonic order:
i thought the alternative crusader events for the st. john order are a great story. if you decide to grant french minors independence instead to share with neighbours or instead keeping france AND if you unite northern italy instead keeping it AND if you unite southern italy instead keeping it AND if you own thrace, the pope give you the order to free the holy land. you get cores on the targetprovinces and if the job is done, you have to hand over the control over that provinces to the new-installed teutonic order (you had to crush them for the baltic circle).
in the originalevent they missed the kingdom of little armenia (Kleinarmenien) (->adana on the EU2 map)
 
poland is a puppet or annexed (for the polish crown event of SorelusImperion)
lithuania is a puppet
the french states are puppets
the italian states are puppets
the byzantine empire and the teutonic order expel the rest of the turks back to asia
you rule in the meantime southamerica - or not.

...what next?

new goals -> the new idea of the emperor:
i made some german-related events for the thirty years wars (additional to the three of SorelusImperion)
some events for the french reunion-policy that leads to events for the War of the Palatinian Succession
some events for the brandenburg (here:KoG)-swedish war
some events for the great nordic war

and then a major fantasy story after the thirty years war - the new idea:
due to the turkey wars, you should own most of the balkan and easteurope

before following the new idea:

agree to follow the new idea:


before #2:

after #2:


the new idea changes the policy of the KoG. back from east/southeurope to the north/northwest. while following the new idea of the emperor, you have to kick some british asses. if you control (thats all, so make no peace) all english provinces of both islands, they surrender. then you can choose what to do next. i always keep the anglosaxon provinces and gave all celtic provinces to a new greater ireland - but you can do what you wanna do. keep all, create a greater scotland or 4 small british puppets. i prefer events that have real consequences and real influence on your game, so that you can play more then one time and europe looks everytime different and you are forced to develop different strategies.



the new idea will lead you also to scandinavia. when denmark owns no province and you control their capital, they flee to iceland. when you own the uguric provinces and control the swedish capital, you made a deal with the swedish government. they get something of your baltic marche and some of russia and you get their scandinavian-culture provinces - so you move sweden eastward.

at the end of a really tough game, my europe looks like that:
germany controls the german, the anglo-saxon, the dutch, and the scandinavian provinces - plus the polish and the czech (united crowns). exept hungary and venice are all neighbours vassals.


...and someday, the british king moves to canada because calais is so terrible french. :D

more than 200 events - so it will take a bit longer. :D
 
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Excellent some of them might only be used in a fantasy scn. but especialy the Italian ones could be integrated If you could send them to me I may take look at them and finalize these events, as the alternatives your chain offers fit perfectly into the concept. The Baltic circle event can probably integrated in it's current version for now although I had little time to make a concentrader effort and found myself distracted at many times.

You could also provide me with the crusader events wich might need a bit reworking to integrate them into the plausible alternative history file but generaly fit into the concept as well with the Emperor (especialy a catholic one) reviving the crusade idea to fight the Ottomans.
 
i'm back :)
end of last year SorelusImperion has send me some of my additions with his changes for proofreading. i had since december no time to add this stuff here for new AGCEEP-versions. did he post new germanrelated events meanwhile? if not i have to search my hard drive for them^^
 
YodaMaster said:
Some have been submitted and are included in AGCEEP 1.55. Check corresponding Alt_Germany events file and Germany thread beginning with post #996 and following discussion (post 1000 to 1004).
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Interesting and good news. I will try Germany. :)
 
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