Anarchy

[domz1909]

Hi, I had the well known problem of not being able to load my saves.
Now I've done it...
Skyve, Save Mode and so on


1. I wasn't using ERU when the destroyed saves were created! I had it in my playset before, but not at that time. I think this is quite interesting?!
2. There was a missing electrical connection, I was able to locate the exact part of the road.
It was a simple construction of a short road, Anarchy was on (it wasn't actually necessary), it was a kind of extension of an existing road. 2 lane vanilla road. Nothing was moved, lifted or anything like that.

Now it seems to run with Road Builder, move it, the last version of anarchy and my whole mod playset.


Unfortunately I don't know how to make the save status available, maybe the modder would be interested in looking at the location on the map.

Maybe this information will help someone

 

[joergeske]

yenyang, not sure if this is helpful or not, but I did some testing with my collection of saves. I save my city and label is "cityname + date" and thus have a copy from every day.

What is strangest to me, is that I played and saved the same city on 9/8, 9/9, 9/10, 9/11, 9/12 with corresponding saves, but then took the weekend off and played again on 9/17 which saved fine, but then would not load later that day. After quickly discovering this issue with Anarchy I decided to just put the game away for a bit. This morning though, I thought, well I was able to load my 9/12 saved game on 9/17 so I can just go back to that point since it loaded once. However, I was unable to load that save or any save successfully despite having loaded it only days prior. I had been working with the newest version of Anarchy that entire time, and loaded and saved fine, but suddenly I can't get back to older saves that I have clearly loaded successful before. This is the part that confuses me so much, I understand that my 9/17 save may have gotten corrupted, but how would my older successful saves retroactively corrupt too? I have tried loading these 5 days of saves with multiple combinations of ERU and Anarchy versions. I haven't dug into safe mode yet just in case you come up with an easier fix.

As a note, I was using ERU and Anarchy 1.72 at the same time (not sure that I should have been, but didn't know better then). I still suspect that this issue while relating to anarchy could have been triggered by another mod update, or something else entirely. I just can't figure out why older saves would have also ran into issues that were otherwise working fine with the same version of the mod.

 

[tro194]

So Extended Road Upgrades was combined into this mod, but where the hell are the road upgrade options? Because they don't show.

 

[joergeske]

So Extended Road Upgrades was combined into this mod, but where the hell are the road upgrade options? Because they don't show.

The upgrades were removed a few days ago due to an unknown issue that was causing save corruption. For the time being you can still use extended road upgrades and do upgrades like before.

 

[yenyang]

Did you try to reproduce the issue with Road Builder mod? Road Builder has settings related to electricity. You might wanna check it out. Also would you like to know our mod playset? Additionally, as someone wrote that they downgraded back 1.7.1 version without ERU and no corruption issue showed up. I decided to try 1.7.1 version and took manual saves every 30 minutes so far everything is working fine. Today I will try the 1.7.2 version without ERU.

I haven't specifically done testing with Road builder, but I have had to have included when trying to examine other peoples saves. The save from Miguel.mateo was helpful and I was able to reproduce the issue in v1.7.2 but not vanilla nor v1.7.3 which is good. You can share your mod list if you want. It's possible the issue was a product of v1.7.2 and not part of v1.7.1 but IDK. V1.7.1 had it's own issues and was only the main version for some hours to a day.

 

[yenyang]

Hi, I had the well known problem of not being able to load my saves.
Now I've done it...
Skyve, Save Mode and so on


1. I wasn't using ERU when the destroyed saves were created! I had it in my playset before, but not at that time. I think this is quite interesting?!
2. There was a missing electrical connection, I was able to locate the exact part of the road.
It was a simple construction of a short road, Anarchy was on (it wasn't actually necessary), it was a kind of extension of an existing road. 2 lane vanilla road. Nothing was moved, lifted or anything like that.

Now it seems to run with Road Builder, move it, the last version of anarchy and my whole mod playset.


Unfortunately I don't know how to make the save status available, maybe the modder would be interested in looking at the location on the map.

Maybe this information will help someone

Thanks for the report. If you want to share a save with me most people have been direct messaging me through the forums and sending me a downloadable link. If the the forums prevent you from sending the link in full, add a space to break up the link.

 

[yenyang]

yenyang, not sure if this is helpful or not, but I did some testing with my collection of saves. I save my city and label is "cityname + date" and thus have a copy from every day.

What is strangest to me, is that I played and saved the same city on 9/8, 9/9, 9/10, 9/11, 9/12 with corresponding saves, but then took the weekend off and played again on 9/17 which saved fine, but then would not load later that day. After quickly discovering this issue with Anarchy I decided to just put the game away for a bit. This morning though, I thought, well I was able to load my 9/12 saved game on 9/17 so I can just go back to that point since it loaded once. However, I was unable to load that save or any save successfully despite having loaded it only days prior. I had been working with the newest version of Anarchy that entire time, and loaded and saved fine, but suddenly I can't get back to older saves that I have clearly loaded successful before. This is the part that confuses me so much, I understand that my 9/17 save may have gotten corrupted, but how would my older successful saves retroactively corrupt too? I have tried loading these 5 days of saves with multiple combinations of ERU and Anarchy versions. I haven't dug into safe mode yet just in case you come up with an easier fix.

As a note, I was using ERU and Anarchy 1.72 at the same time (not sure that I should have been, but didn't know better then). I still suspect that this issue while relating to anarchy could have been triggered by another mod update, or something else entirely. I just can't figure out why older saves would have also ran into issues that were otherwise working fine with the same version of the mod.

Thanks for the report. I don't know what's going on with your earlier saves. you can share them with me if you want. I'm working on detecting broken nodes and hopefully patching the data.

 

[Mozart39]

bonjour l'équipe
aujourd'hui après la mise à jour I18n EveryWhere
le jeu ne démarre plus, le mystère s'épaissit

 

[yenyang]

bonjour l'équipe
aujourd'hui après la mise à jour I18n EveryWhere
le jeu ne démarre plus, le mystère s'épaissit

Try updating i18n to the latest version. v1.2.7-hotfix1. Hopefully that can help. Otherwise send that mod author a skyve log report please.

 

[timdavd]

when will the extended road upgrade tool make the way back into your mod? i am not able to start the game with the extended road upgrade mod, so i am dependent of this feature

 

[yenyang]

when will the extended road upgrade tool make the way back into your mod? i am not able to start the game with the extended road upgrade mod, so i am dependent of this feature

I don’t have a timeline for you right now, but here’s what I’m up to:

1. Try to detect broken nodes (still working on this, but almost done, maybe)
2. Try to fix broken nodes.
3. Soft launch testing that fix
4. Figure out why the node broken in the 1 scenario that I know I can replicate. And fix that.
5. Private testing.
6. Probably public beta testing
7. Repeat steps 4-6 as needed
8. Re-release features. Features could be re-released as a whole or in stages.

Your options now:
1. Figure out why ERU isn’t working for you and get that running again.
2. Figure out how to download and run v1.7.0-1.7.2 of anarchy with whatever problems are associated with those versions. (Not recommended)

 

[Evosis]

Thanks for the report. I’m still not sure what conditions/mods are required to produce the issue. I have trouble reproducing it myself, but I do know what it looks like after it happens from looking at other people's saves. I also don't know why that data gets removed/not added. There isn't anything in Anarchy that specifically removes/interacts with that data. But there could be interactions with vanilla or other mods. This isn't an easy issue to troubleshoot.

Forgot to say that it happened another time 1 week ago, and i knew immediatly it was a bridge because i did buid it just before, but this time i did not have ERU only the 1.7.2. I tried to reproduce it in 1.7.3 but my save still continue to work (yay ! lol) I have the exact save that i cannot load and a autosave just before that i loaded and destroyed the bridge (so i could load again). Could it help if i send you the saves and trying in 1.7.2 ?

 

[zztmamg]

When using Anarchy, if there are two roads in the same position, the bus stop on the elevated road incorrectly connects to the ground road. It looks fine when you place the stop, but when you connect the bus line, it connects vertically from the elevated road to the ground road and can’t properly connect to the elevated road. This issue doesn’t occur if there’s no ground road below the elevated road. I placed this stop without Anarchy enabled, and it only exists in my playset. After I removed Anarchy from my playset, this issue no longer occurred, but the bus stops placed before still have the error.

 

[yenyang]

Forgot to say that it happened another time 1 week ago, and i knew immediatly it was a bridge because i did buid it just before, but this time i did not have ERU only the 1.7.2. I tried to reproduce it in 1.7.3 but my save still continue to work (yay ! lol) I have the exact save that i cannot load and a autosave just before that i loaded and destroyed the bridge (so i could load again). Could it help if i send you the saves and trying in 1.7.2 ?

Yea I'm happy you can't reproduce it in v1.7.3, Yea sharing the saves sounds good. People have been direct messaging me downloadable links through the forums.

 

[yenyang]

When using Anarchy, if there are two roads in the same position, the bus stop on the elevated road incorrectly connects to the ground road. It looks fine when you place the stop, but when you connect the bus line, it connects vertically from the elevated road to the ground road and can’t properly connect to the elevated road. This issue doesn’t occur if there’s no ground road below the elevated road. I placed this stop without Anarchy enabled, and it only exists in my playset. After I removed Anarchy from my playset, this issue no longer occurred, but the bus stops placed before still have the error.

I'm not sure what's going on with that. If you want you can share the save with me and I can take a closer look eventually. I might try and reproduce this myself at some point.

 

[zztmamg]

I'm not sure if the archive is these two files. This is a simple demo. You can try to connect to the bus stop I placed to see if the error occurs.

I'm not sure what's going on with that. If you want you can share the save with me and I can take a closer look eventually. I might try and reproduce this myself at some point.

 

[eMatt69]

Someone wrote Anarchy were able to replace the Additional Road Tools but I can't find any options to change roads resp. road sides to elevated, tunnel or sunken. So, what's true?

 

[Solus722]

After removing all the electrical problem nodes and some road crossings, the save error problem was still there.
In safe mode, I was able to play but this was not always the case.

I don't know if you use the Road Builder mod, for my part I only used it once
I had created a wide avenue with tram, bus, central point and 4 car lanes, which went all around the city, so a priority axis with a lot of other roads crossing it.

While editing some places to find the errors, I noticed that when I deleted a building, the area was automatically deleted, something that does not happen on the other roads.

I deleted this avenue and after a long work, also redid the bus and tram stops and the areas that no longer existed, I saved the game.
I restarted the save in normal mode and my save is ok, unfortunately for a short time, the game down again, after research, I had also created a small road with the Road Builder mode, small road that I used for a small section, I deleted it
I tested, still in normal mode and several times, my save and the game are OK again

Is the problem with the Road Builder mod, or a conflict with ERU and or Anarchy
For the moment my backup works very well
Anarchy 1.7.3, ERU

 

[N7 Zebracakes]

Someone wrote Anarchy were able to replace the Additional Road Tools but I can't find any options to change roads resp. road sides to elevated, tunnel or sunken. So, what's true?

It looks like those options are currently disabled due to some save corruption error. It's detailed in the comments of this post. I had to go digging to find out as well.

 

[N7 Zebracakes]

Relevant for folks coming into the comments regarding the Road Tools missing from Anarchy. Go check the Change-Log.
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Patch V1.7.3
This is not a fix. It's a rollback of features.

The following features/fixes have been removed to try and prevent new save file issues from arising:

All Network Anarchy Tool Options
Entire Network Upgrade Overhaul
All Network Upgrade Assets from Extended Road Upgrades
Fixes to Extended Road Upgrades including retaining wall node issue and fire and rescue info view issue
Elevation Step Slider
Options related to these features have been hidden.

The rollback should prevent new issues from arising but previous exposure to v1.7.0 - v1.7.2 could still cause problems even after changing versions.

I hope to develop a permanent fix and re-publish these features. That will take time, research, development, and testing.