Tonioz said:
Yep. I am hesistant to do stuff with MP by the way, but I could give Bavaria and Palatinat a CC (and remove those if they get annexed).
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Yep. I am hesistant to do stuff with MP by the way, but I could give Bavaria and Palatinat a CC (and remove those if they get annexed).
Hmm, normally i wouldn't mention players wanting to join a new game, but if we're going to have a bid system, shouldn't we ensure that we only have people who have good connections and are actually going to participate in sessions? Otherwise it spoils the whole thing if people bid for the their favourite nation, then lose out to someone who then doesn't turn up / is unable to join to the game. Most people on the confirmed list are fine, but there are one or two whom I've never played with before - can people vouch for them?
Unfortunately the time setup means I can't promise to be present as a perm all the time FAL. BahFAL said:If some of you has doubts, please say so ASAP. I want to be sure you all can and want to play and there is no harm in leaving before we start
. And knowing myself, I prefer a reliable sub then an unreliable perm in a MP game .
PJL said:
As said: if people miss the first session without warning (and I consider having a shitty connection as being equal to that) others can take their nation.
So, if you have lost the bidding to someone, and he doesn't show up, you can pick his nation instead.
ForzaA said:which they'll promptly abandon (give or take 2 weeks)
Slackers can't be trusted
Nagel said:Unfortunately the time setup means I can't promise to be present as a perm all the time FAL. Bah
Fine, you are demoted to sub
admiral drake said:i'm intrested if fal can handle 1more
Nagel just quit as a perm. Quite likely if others will do so too, so feel free to sign up
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Attention
In case we end up with too many players:
Genoa is a playable country too. So please place a bid for Genoa as well.
In case we end up with too many players:
Genoa is a playable country too. So please place a bid for Genoa as well.
If there is still room, Im intrested in joining. However I have the same problem as Mioz, we play in a game that ends at 17:00 CET.
Still tho, Id like to play in another game and decided to try my luck that if the starting time isnt set in stone, and there is more room, Id like to join.
Still tho, Id like to play in another game and decided to try my luck that if the starting time isnt set in stone, and there is more room, Id like to join.
I think we ought to scrap the bidding system. Why:
- This is a historical scenario, not one that tries to have equalized countries, so there is no need to fine tune balance through this means
- In historical scenarios, people generally don't pick countries based on which one they think is the strongest, they pick based on which one they want to try, so penalizing somebody for really badly wanting to play a country accomplishes nothing.
- And some players will just choose not to bid because they hate inflation. I'd like to play Poland, but I'm just gonna avoid bidding if the alternative is to start out with 4-5 inflation. I could handle Genoa, or the OE or whatever is leftover, but only because I hate inflation more.
If anything, bidding where some ppl bid high to get their preferences, while otehrs don't feel too strongly about their countries and so choose not to bid, will result in greater imbalance than normal. The historical setup will be skewed because some ppl will be unable to afford minting/war taxes early.
Why don't we just all say 3 countries we like and then have Fal allocate them according to balance and preference? That way we can ensure that responsible players get the good countries too, and that you don't have something like a noob in France, and a vet like Tonio in Austria.
- This is a historical scenario, not one that tries to have equalized countries, so there is no need to fine tune balance through this means
- In historical scenarios, people generally don't pick countries based on which one they think is the strongest, they pick based on which one they want to try, so penalizing somebody for really badly wanting to play a country accomplishes nothing.
- And some players will just choose not to bid because they hate inflation. I'd like to play Poland, but I'm just gonna avoid bidding if the alternative is to start out with 4-5 inflation. I could handle Genoa, or the OE or whatever is leftover, but only because I hate inflation more.
If anything, bidding where some ppl bid high to get their preferences, while otehrs don't feel too strongly about their countries and so choose not to bid, will result in greater imbalance than normal. The historical setup will be skewed because some ppl will be unable to afford minting/war taxes early.
Why don't we just all say 3 countries we like and then have Fal allocate them according to balance and preference? That way we can ensure that responsible players get the good countries too, and that you don't have something like a noob in France, and a vet like Tonio in Austria.
I am not in the game and I am still in favour of what KJ says.
Othrewise you get situations of Tonio's France and KJ's OE against Fal's Austria and annexations and such which isn't good really.
Othrewise you get situations of Tonio's France and KJ's OE against Fal's Austria and annexations and such which isn't good really.
King John said:
Because I truly, truly am tired of the mass whining of players not liking the country of their choice OR whining because they want a specific country.
For example: BOTH Aladar and Wonko seem to want England BADLY. So if I am just going to pick a country for one of them, I at least have one annoyed player.
Also: I get accused a LOT that a player setup I created, was made to favour my own position in the game.
But fine, if there are more people against the bidding, I will scrap it and try to make a traditional setup based on preferences.
But then I demand everyone lists 3 countries and no less. Too much requests like 'I want only to play X'.
FAL said:
To make sure noone is really unhappy you can ask them again to state the three countries they really don't want.
Edit: In addition to the countries they do want.
Miozozny said:
That was an old idea of mine that worked too.
Well, I would like to hear the opinion of more people first then. I am still busy with the scenario anyway
If we go with a classique country distribution, I gladly accept Johns order to do it.
John, give me Ottoman Empire!!!!
Aladar and Wonko are definitely mature enough guys not to get annoyed over things like this. A person that would get annoyed is probably the kind of person that shouldn't play in the first place.FAL said:
Well that is a silly claim, I've always thought your excellent at keeping the GM role and player role separateFAL said:
My only preference is, not a german minor. Reason: GötterdämmerungFAL said: