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Eastern Siberia. Right now the coastal provinces arn't connected to the rest of the country, that's sort of a problem. It's needs a new province that's colonised to link them together while still keeping the north uncolonised. Or perhaps just reshaping the existing ones.
 
Calantyr said:
Eastern Siberia. Right now the coastal provinces arn't connected to the rest of the country, that's sort of a problem. It's needs a new province that's colonised to link them together while still keeping the north uncolonised. Or perhaps just reshaping the existing ones.
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Def will add 1 province so that the Trans-Siberian Railway does not have to go to Yakutsk to connect to Vladivostok.

Still thinking on other areas.
 
Summary of changes so far :

Gaining Province IDs :

130 from merging sea provinces
22 from merging provinces in Western North America
6 from merging provinces in Algeria
8 from merging provinces in Libya

total : 166 free province IDs

IDs assigned

Islands : 24 (see post #18)
North America (mostly in East to improve immigration setup) : 24
Coastal Algeria & Libya : 4

Total planned to be assigned : 52

Balance unassigned : 114
 
Walter Model said:
I say if you decrease the number of provinces in Syria-Iraq, Persia and Africa then we can have more provinces in asiatic russia so there is no more super-huge provinces there.
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Hmm there are regions of Africa I plan to increase actually (Gold Coast, Congo, the Rhodesias for ex), and I think the Middle East is about right, just needs some borders redrawn. Other than perhaps right along the RUS-CHI-KOR border not sure why adding more provinces to Siberia would be a good idea, given they are for the most part even lower POP than most of the Middle East and Africa.


But if you want to do up a map with some suggestions I'd like to see what you are thinking.
 
Weijun said:
Unsurprisingly, I would like to see more provinces in China. At very least, having the Portuguese in Macau would be an improvement. I actually like the HOI2 map of China better, for what it's worth.

Is the number of provinces hard-coded into the game? If so, are there any free tags in V:R? If not, aside from making our CPUs work harder, what would be the reason not to double or triple the number of provinces?

Can you tell us more about this map-making utility in the works? Why only now, after three years?
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1) already planning Macao (see post #18), may do some changes in the West and Outer Mongolia areas, East coast of china I think is pretty thick with provinces already though so really not looking to add more there other than Macao. But I'm open to ideas, make up a map and I'll consider it.

2) Number of provinces is hard coded, so we have to merge sea provinces and other land provinces to free up province IDs to be used for new provinces

3) The utility is still being developed but it will be similar to the Magellan utility used to design maps for EU2. It is only just now that the developer of Magellan has been able to get a similar utility for Victoria in a stage where it could be released to the public. Note this is a user-made creation, NOT a "Paradox Approved and Supported" creation.
 
Walter Model said:
You see, I think Persia is FAR to over-provinced so if we took some away perhaps it could go to the asiatic russia, but would that be impossible because of id group limitations?
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See since I have a background in Modern Islamic history and have done a lot of research on Persia, I don't see Persia having too many provinces myself, and it sets up good potentials to model the breakdown of the Qajar state in the late 19th C for mods like VIP as groups such as the Bakhtiyar and Qashqa'i carved out autonomous domains.

And perhaps I'm unclear as to what you think needs splitting up in Siberia, again if you could make a photoshop or paint map and upload it with some ideas I'd have a better idea of what you'd like to see. To me, Siberia seems pretty right, bar the lack of a province on the upper Amur that would allow the Trans-Siberian Railway to not have to go way to the north in Yakutsk just to connect the Maritime Province with Trans-Baikal region.
 
OK reworking the Fertile Cresent to get a better setup for the Postwar era

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Again this is all very rough sketch stage. The heavy distortion in the base map is not helping either

Key to the numbered provinces :


1 - Latakia
2 - Tripoli
3 - Beirut
4 - Baalbek
5 - Sidon
6 - Nablus
7 - Jaffa
8 - Jerusalem
9 - Gaza
10 - Beersheva
11 - Aqaba

EDIT : Slight tweak so that TUR and PER have common border for interwar era.
 
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Original Provinces for Fertile Cresenct Region :

1382, 1383, 1384, 1386, 1387, 1388, 1389, 1390, 1391, 1392, 1393, 1394, 1395, 1396, 1397, 1398, 1399, 1400, 1401, 1402, 1403, 1405, 1406, 1407, 1411, 1412, 1413, 1414, 1457

Total : 29

Provinces in Fertile Cresecent Update :

Palestine : 6
Jordan : 5
Lebanon : 4
Syria : 8
Iraq : 12
Kuwait : 1

Total : 36

Net change to ID pool : -7

Leaves 109 Province IDs free.
 
Earl Uhtred said:
That's so similar to what I was thinking of it's unreal.

Rutbah needs splitting though to make it harder to skip between.
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OK how about this :

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Extends Najaf down to the Saudi border (which in Iraq the Najaf wilaya actually does.)
 
Just some feedback re:canada

If your going to merge provinces, the place to do it is in the northwest territories. This is because immigrants tend to flock there.

Ontario (and to a bit of an extent Quebec) should be the place for immigrants until the 1880s or so. then it should be more BC, Alberta, Sask. Manitoba.

This is basically what i'd have in mind. Mackenzie and Yellowknife could probably even be merged too.

Canadachange.jpg


Use the extra 9 or 10 provs to rework the rest of canada better, and achieve a better distribution of immigration.
 
Gaius Marius I said:
Just some feedback re:canada

If your going to merge provinces, the place to do it is in the northwest territories. This is because immigrants tend to flock there.

Ontario (and to a bit of an extent Quebec) should be the place for immigrants until the 1880s or so. then it should be more BC, Alberta, Sask. Manitoba.

This is basically what i'd have in mind. Mackenzie and Yellowknife could probably even be merged too.

Canadachange.jpg


Use the extra 9 or 10 provs to rework the rest of canada better, and achieve a better distribution of immigration.
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Note in Revolutions Keewatin is already split as separte from the NWT state - so both will be 4-state provinces, along with Yukon, which will reduce immigration in comparison to other areas such as Ontario and Quebec.
 
It's a warp in the space time continuium, like if you stood between 2 starbucks that are across from each other...the end of the world.
 
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