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Anmol73

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I'm completely brand new to actually running the game, but I've had it on Steam since December 2017 - never actually had the chance to play until now with my new PC. I've known that Vanilla Vic2 is unplayable: the rule I've heard is that "if your Prussia is yellow, don't play". So, I've got HPM now. Any mods that I can download that compliment HPM without breaking the game?

P.S: I'm a Panjabi-Sikh historian and I'm always looking for historical accuracy. On my old laptop with previous attempts of changing the game, I was able to add in important Sikh army generals and generated Panjabi names on the base vanilla game. My memory is faint on re-doing this, but is there something I should look out for while attempting to do the same with HPM? Is there a different route within the mod files I need to take to in order to add missing generals such as Hari Singh Nalwa, Prince Kharak Singh, Akali Baba Hanuman Singh, etc.?
 
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Most Vic2 mods are not intercompatible, so I doubt it unless you get an HPM-specific submod.

Mods copy the file structure of the base game, so you will find the relevant files in the same place, just nested within the mod files.
 
Most Vic2 mods are not intercompatible, so I doubt it unless you get an HPM-specific submod.

Mods copy the file structure of the base game, so you will find the relevant files in the same place, just nested within the mod files.
 
I'm completely brand new to actually running the game, but I've had it on Steam since December 2017 - never actually had the chance to play until now with my new PC. I've known that Vanilla Vic2 is unplayable: the rule I've heard is that "if your Prussia is yellow, don't play". So, I've got HPM now. Any mods that I can download that compliment HPM without breaking the game?
Keep in mind to play most mods, you must also have installed the two addons (AHD, HOD) of Victoria 2 and of course the latest patch. (with DLC things are different for newer games)

If you want to have the same changed leader names, you've already added to vanilla V2, you'll also have to change the same files of HPM, which can be found inside the "mod" sub-directory. Mods inside "mod" have to follow the same structure as the vanilla game to have their changes to be recognised by the game engine. Thus you'll easily find the files you'd changed earlier.
P.S: I'm a Panjabi-Sikh historian and I'm always looking for historical accuracy. On my old laptop with previous attempts of changing the game, I was able to add in important Sikh army generals and generated Panjabi names on the base vanilla game. My memory is faint on re-doing this, but is there something I should look out for while attempting to do the same with HPM? Is there a different route within the mod files I need to take to in order to add missing generals such as Hari Singh Nalwa, Prince Kharak Singh, Akali Baba Hanuman Singh, etc.?
In Victoria Revolution (V1) Panjab shares the names of random leaders with Mysore. I've listed them here, so that I can ask you if these are correct:
MYS;Kumar
MYS;Lal
MYS;Sharma
MYS;Shan
MYS;Jai
MYS;Pal
MYS;Aggarwal
MYS;Raje
MYS;Chande
MYS;Chander
MYS;Nara
MYS;Rai
MYS;Nath
MYS;Goel
MYS;Bhat
MYS;Raji
MYS;Anand
MYS;Suri
MYS;Kapoor
MYS;Chandra
MYS;Patel
MYS;Verma
MYS;Malhotra
MYS;Sai
MYS;Arun
MYS;Madan
MYS;Srini
MYS;Prasad
MYS;Sara
MYS;Rana
MYS;Raman
MYS;Subram
MYS;Mehta
MYS;Subramani
MYS;Sethi
MYS;Vijaya
MYS;Malik
MYS;Narayan
MYS;Mittal
MYS;Nita
MYS;Kishore
MYS;Roy
MYS;Chaudhary
MYS;Charan
MYS;Nigam
MYS;Sen
MYS;Subramanian
MYS;Nirmal
MYS;Pawan
MYS;Manohar
MYS;Sahni
MYS;Lalit
MYS;Rajan
MYS;Sehgal
MYS;Uddin
MYS;Saini
MYS;Neel
MYS;Jana
MYS;Darsha
MYS;Ranga
MYS;Vish
MYS;Mehra
MYS;Puri
MYS;Muthu
MYS;Lata
MYS;Chauhan
MYS;Saxena
MYS;Swami
MYS;Neela
MYS;Chandrasekar
MYS;Soni
MYS;Dhawan
MYS;Nagpal
MYS;Joshi
MYS;Krishnamurthy
MYS;Persaud
MYS;Punj
MYS;Veena
MYS;Mahajan
MYS;Manju
MYS;Dutta
MYS;Sandeep
MYS;Narang
MYS;Naran
MYS;Veer
MYS;Tyagi
MYS;Samuel
MYS;Srivastava
MYS;Sudha
MYS;Srivas
MYS;Mati
MYS;Neelam
MYS;Rastogi
MYS;Bhatt
MYS;Rajagopal
MYS;Srivastav
MYS;Ganesh
MYS;Jindal
Are these names acceptable as Panjabi names or can you offer a different list?
Thanks in advance! :)
 
Keep in mind to play most mods, you must also have installed the two addons (AHD, HOD) of Victoria 2 and of course the latest patch. (with DLC things are different for newer games)

If you want to have the same changed leader names, you've already added to vanilla V2, you'll also have to change the same files of HPM, which can be found inside the "mod" sub-directory. Mods inside "mod" have to follow the same structure as the vanilla game to have their changes to be recognised by the game engine. Thus you'll easily find the files you'd changed earlier.

In Victoria Revolution (V1) Panjab shares the names of random leaders with Mysore. I've listed them here, so that I can ask you if these are correct:

Are these names acceptable as Panjabi names or can you offer a different list?
Thanks in advance! :)
Yeah at first I thought mods were compatible with vanilla but turns out literally every page said I needed to buy AHD & HOD which is totally fine. I'm playing with the HPM mod right now and it's great!

I actually tried looking in the HPM mod files to look for country leader names and I actually wasn't able to find anything. Do I need to change the names in the vanilla files first for something to appear in the mod files or was I looking in the wrong place?

Those are some neat names for Mysore! Pretty much every single name there is Hindu-Vedic derived - literally Uddin and Bhatt being the only two Indo-Islamic names (Uddin being a common old suffix & Bhatt or Bhatti being a Muslim convert). A few of these Mysore names exist both in antiquity and modernity with respect to being accurate and common Panjabi Hindu last names (Kumar, Sharma, Aggarwal, Anand, Kapoor, Mehta, Verma, Malhotra & Saini being the most prevalent).

What makes Panjab, or more accurately the Sikh Empire or Khalsa Raj, most unique was the cultural melting-pot that took part in leading the empire. For example, the Emperor was Sikh (ex: Maharaja Ranjit Singh), the First Minister Muslim (ex: Faqir Aziz-ud-Din) and many generals/governors Hindu (ex: Diwan Mulraj Chopra of Multan). The common idea for the betterment of Panjabi society for all regardless of faith was a leading factor in this unity. Although the state religion was Sikhi, because of the faith's inherent secular principles, historians and scholars alike have labeled the Sikh Empire as a secular nation - and this can be seen from the hierarchal setup as shared above.

I've always planned on sharing both the correct list of Panjabi generals and first/last names for random in-game creation for people to copy and paste into their files for accuracy. This might end up boosting the military stats of the Sikh Empire in Victoria 2, but it shouldn't be forgotten that the Sikh Imperial Army of the Lahore Darbar in 1836 was one of the strongest in Asia (approx. 120,000 soldiers) and rapidly westernizing with the introduction of flint-lock rifles, Western tactics and formation, European generals, artillery and even adopting Francois-style uniforms. Because all three faiths (Hinduism, Islam & Sikhi) were so actively represented in the Panjab government, a proper blend of first & last names from all three faiths are required. Of course, this can lead to at most questionable mixing and matching with for example a Muslim first name and Sikh last name - but one can fantasize about a general converting religions or whatnot.

Some era-precise last names for Panjab can include:
Sandhu (SIKH)
Sidhu (SIKH)
Ahluwalia (SIKH)
Brar (SIKH)
Gill and/or Shergill (SIKH)
Grewal (SIKH)
Virk (SIKH)
Majithia (SIKH)
Singh (SIKH - now used as every Sikh man's middle name across the planet)
Singh Nihang (SIKH - Nihang (suffix) is a religious-warrior order which stood as a separate platoon within the Sikh Imperial Army)
Ramgarhia (SIKH - Misl-era (1720s-1799) derived)
Kanhaiya (SIKH - not used anymore; Misl-era (1720s-1799) derived)
Bhangi (SIKH - not used anymore; Misl-era (1720s-1799) derived)
Sandhwalia (SIKH - not used anymore)
Phulkian or Phul (SIKH not used anymore; Misl-era (1720s-1799) derived, descendants of the House of Phul came under Lahore)
Shaheed or Shaheedanwala (SIKH - not used anymore; Misl-era (1720s-1799) derived - holy-religious order of martyrs)
Bedi (SIKH - actively used by descendants of Guru Nanak - founder of the Sikh faith in 1469)
Sodhi (SIKH - actively used by descendants of the 4th to 10th Gurus)
Bahadur (SIKH or HINDU or MUSLIM - historically a royal titular name bestowed upon nobles)
Lal (SIKH or HINDU)
Bhullar (SIKH or HINDU)
Rai (SIKH or HINDU)
Chand (SIKH or HINDU)
Anand (SIKH or HINDU)
Kumar (HINDU)
Sharma (HINDU)
Aggarwal (HINDU, today SIKH as well)
Kapoor (HINDU)
Mehta (HINDU, today SIKH as well)
Verma (HINDU, today SIKH as well)
Malhotra (HINDU, today SIKH as well)
Saini (HINDU, today SIKH as well)
Khan (MUSLIM)
Muhammad (MUSLIM)
Bhatti (MUSLIM, historically denotes HINDU converts to ISLAM)
Sultan (MUSLIM)
ud-Din (MUSLIM)
Shah (MUSLIM)

I could be missing a bunch more, these were the ones I was able to come up with off the top of my head.
 
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