Any map mods?

[Fürstbischof]

Now, there are some more errors in the map. Many new provinces are in wrong areas, regions. Helena province for example in Montana is still in an oceanregion. So when you order an airstrike, your bomber tryed the fly in that oceanarea insteed to helena. Nearly every province in india is putted in US areas, regions.
So I want refresh the new provinces. That takes many days to do, and with the balanched economy that should become a little modproject.

Yes, changing/balancing province.csv is a huge task. But I was hoping that we could benefit from mumias work in this regard. He has already started to rearrange areas and regions:

http://e3project.freeforums.org/e3-map-t4-450.html

If you look at the date of his post you can see that it's quite a few months old. Sadly, their forum is quite dead since last April. Nevertheless I hoping he is still continuing his map mod...

 

[unmerged(46856)]

I make good advances with the area/region Organization of the provinces. Actually, I've done all europe and nearly all Russia. Until 3 or 4 days I can be finished with zhis work.
And thank you for the hint with extra_text.csv. I'll test this tomorrow. When this will work, so I hope, I can modify the map much better.

 

[Fürstbischof]

I make good advances with the area/region Organization of the provinces. Actually, I've done all europe and nearly all Russia. Until 3 or 4 days I can be finished with zhis work.

Most of the work seems to wait for you in Asia. Especially China is quite complicated. Since I'm now adapting the chinese minors of revolt.txt I can promise you some hours of hard work. I hope that I can offer the file tomorrow or Saturday for download.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Most of the work seems to wait for you in Asia. Especially China is quite complicated. Since I'm now adapting the chinese minors of revolt.txt I can promise you some hours of hard work. I hope that I can offer the file tomorrow or Saturday for download.

China was a tough nut. To make your life/task easier I can offer you the province ids of several chinese provinces.

# Jiangsu
1217 1219 1220 1235 1236 1237 1966 2556

# Zhejiang
1238 1239 1240 1241 2570 2571 2572

# Fujian
1243 1244 1245 1246 1247 1936 1937

# Hubei
1231 1232 1253 1264 1266 1910 1939 1995 1996 1997 2502

# Anhui
1218 1221 1222 1233 1234 1964 1965 2558 2573 2574

# Henan
1223 1224 1227 1228 1229 1230 2508 2513 2515 2516

# Shanxi
1209 1225 1226 2517 2518 2520

# Hebei
1203 1204 1205 1206 1210 1211 1212 1397 2318 2523 2525 2526 2527 2576

# Shandong
1213 1214 1215 1216 2522 2528 2529 2530 2531 2533 2534

# Yunnan
1293 1294 1307 1308 1327 1362 1905 1918 1928 1978 1983

# Sichuan
1263 1265 1279 1280 1281 1360 1361 1903 2550 2551 2559 2560 2561

# Hainan
746 1321

# Guangxi
557 559 674 695 720 1258 1309 1310 1311 1319 1325

# Guangdong
568 570 696 1248 1249 1312 1313 1314 1315 1316 1317 1318 1320 1880 1912

# Guizhou
1262 1363 1364 1365 1984 1993 2000 2311

# Hunan
1255 1256 1257 1259 1260 1261 1913 1914 1921 1922

# Jiangxi
1242 1250 1251 1252 1254 1938 1941 2567 2568 2569

# Shaanxi
1267 1268 1269 1270 1271 2505 2507

# Sinkiang
1421 1431 1432 1433 1435 1445 1446 1447 1728

# Tibet
1430 1448 1450 1451 1452 1453 2043

 

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Thanks, I'll check it with my resaults, because China I've done to 75%. As I see we will nearly work the same way.

India was hard too, but it is done. Tomorrow I'll go to Austalia/Ozeania and Africa.

Godness, Climate and Terrain will become a task too. Specialy climate become hard work.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Thanks, I'll check it with my resaults, because China I've done to 75%. As I see we will nearly work the same way.

India was hard too, but it is done. Tomorrow I'll go to Austalia/Ozeania and Africa.

That are indeed good news. Are using only an atlas or do you refer to wikipedia? The wiki is quite helpful in this regard. Sadly it's also very distractive.

Godness, Climate and Terrain will become a task too. Specialy climate become hard work.

and infrastructure and IC and resources and ...

It's indeed a huge task and hard work, but we'll do it step by step.

 

[Amallric]

Don't know it that can help, but I did a file where I referenced all of the vanilla map provinces and the corresponding E3 map provinces. I'll upload that just in case.

 

[unmerged(46856)]

That are indeed good news. Are using only an atlas or do you refer to wikipedia? .............
and infrastructure and IC and resources and ...

Only an atlas, and some Islands, like this one in indian ocean, I inverstigate in wikipedia.
Unbelieveable, even the "Lost-Island" (Lost on TV) is within the map. See south of Westjava the lone island. It's called "Christmas-Island"

Now, Ozeania is done. Tomorrow the final step with all America, and some seazones.

I have now 7 areas free and unused, and 1 region. to consider where we can use this free areas.

The finished asaareas, so far:



EDIT:
Amallric, I don't understand your textfile ?

 

[Amallric]

Amallric, I don't understand your textfile

Well, you have the ID of a province on the vanilla map, and then after the semicolon( ; ), the ID of the province(s) that covers the same area(geographically) on the E3 map. As I said, no idea how can it be useful.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Only an atlas, and some Islands, like this one in indian ocean, I inverstigate in wikipedia.
Unbelieveable, even the "Lost-Island" (Lost on TV) is within the map. See south of Westjava the lone island. It's called "Christmas-Island"

It's good that this island and several others have finally made it in the game. According to wiki "... Christmas Island was a target for Japanese occupation because of its rich phosphate deposits." Adding some rares as resources seems to be a good idea.

Now, Ozeania is done. Tomorrow the final step with all America, and some seazones.

I have now 7 areas free and unused, and 1 region. to consider where we can use this free areas.

When I looked at your screenie I had the idea that we could separate Kashmir from the area directly below from it.

The finished asaareas, so far:

Fine, thanks. Can you influence which colour an area/region uses? It might be worthwhile to use another colour for the Philippines.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Well, you have the ID of a province on the vanilla map, and then after the semicolon( ; ), the ID of the province(s) that covers the same area(geographically) on the E3 map. As I said, no idea how can it be useful.

Thanks, Amallric, for this very helpful file. Especially for adjusting infrastructure and climate your file will help us greatly. I had already feared that we'd have to cross-check each province ... Once you have a finalized area/region map you can't see/don't know any longer which provinces ids have been moved around the world, which makes further adjustments and corrections somewhat difficult.

 

[unmerged(46856)]

Thanks, Amallric, for this very helpful file. Especially for adjusting infrastructure and climate your file will help us greatly. I had already feared that we'd have to cross-check each province ... Once you have a finalized area/region map you can't see/don't know any longer which provinces ids have been moved around the world, which makes further adjustments and corrections somewhat difficult.

Yes, when I think about, this file will be helpful indeed.

Kaschmir is noted. In France, there is an big area too (Burgung und Champagne) that can seperated. In Africa are some very big areas too. Meanwhile, with the progress in the USA 5 areas become free too, Vermont, I don't think that 1 province needs a full area.

I believe the areacolors can not be changed. The first color is always blue, and if this area has no broder, like islands, than the next area, with no broder is blue again, so in Islandchains like Phillipines all island are blue, but there are 4 areas.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Yes, when I think about, this file will be helpful indeed.

Kaschmir is noted. In France, there is an big area too (Burgung und Champagne) that can seperated.

Once you have done the areas/regions we can look at them more closely and discuss which might be added or changed. A few provinces might be moved to a neighbouring area, too. Atm it's too early for polishing.

In Africa are some very big areas too. Meanwhile, with the progress in the USA 5 areas become free too, Vermont, I don't think that 1 province needs a full area.

For Africa it seems to be enough if today's nations have their own areas. The smaller nations, e.g. in West Africa, should be added to these or grouped together where it seems to be appropriate. Whether every member state of the USA has to be a separate area is imho questionable. I'd prefer to have there less areas if we find a better region to use these.

I believe the areacolors can not be changed. The first color is always blue, and if this area has no broder, like islands, than the next area, with no broder is blue again, so in Islandchains like Phillipines all island are blue, but there are 4 areas.

Ok, then let's hope that the devs allow for more colours. IIRC there was already a similar wish on the list.

 

[Caesar_Augustus]

I am impressed and awed by all this patient work, dear friends! I regret that I do not have much time to continue my E3 Map adaptation to the 1939 scenario, but here's hoping... When you guys finish all the area/region adjustments, please, please, post it up! Thank you ever so much!

 

[Fürstbischof]

Sorry for the double post (here and in E3 Mod thread), but I want to be sure that we find a proper solution.

Adapting AOD's revolt.txt to the E3 map takes longer as I have envisioned. As the major obstacle proved to be a single province (#781) in India which couldn't be given as a province to India. I was neither able to add it as minimum nor as extra. If I do add it and click as UK the Liberate Button and choose India, then I get an instant CTD while confirming this decision. I was only able to nail down #781 because I have added the indian provinces one by one to minimum/extra. This was very time-consuming and frustrating. Once I have even given this province to Pakistan - instant CTD after starting the liberation.

Does anyone know why I have this irritating problem with this special province?

 

[unmerged(46856)]

Province 781 is Adilabad. I've a look on it, and at the first sight all seems to be right, but look at the possible ways to bordering provinces and you see, from Adilabad there leads 2 routes over River to "Adilabad".
Therefore, the route to Warangel is a normal route, but it shuold to be all so a riverroute.
See screenshot:



I think this must be the error, must be an ID conflict in the mapfiles. but don't ask me how to clear this.

I make a testgame with GB and try to move to this province.


Now it is time to release the first alpha of the mapmodifikation.
All areas and regions now been sorted and on there right positions.
Here a list of free and unused and newly created areas:

Insel Diego Gracia (free)
Nördl. Salomon Inseln (free)
Nördliche Neue Hebriden (free)
Nauru (free)
Johnston-Atoll (free)
Nördl. Gilberinseln (free)
Senjavin (free)
Neubraunschweig (free)
Vermont (Kaschmir)
Massachussets (Patagonia)
New Jersey (Recife)
Mississippi (Yucatan)
Kansas (Oxaca)
North Dakota (Novo León)
Connecticut_Rhode Island (Sinola)
The Falklands (Champagne)
Magdalena (Tirol)
El Alamein (Venedig)
Danakil Plateau (Kongo)
Rehe (Schlesien)


This Version does not set the climate, terrain and economy of the map, this will come with late rversions. This version is just for inspect the new area and region and to find bugs and for ideas.
It comes with the E3 map, and with Fürstenbischof's event files. Damed, I forgot his scenariofile. Just download it in his post.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11414191&postcount=6251

Here comes the Download

 

[Fürstbischof]

Province 781 is Adilabad. I've a look on it, and at the first sight all seems to be right, but look at the possible ways to bordering provinces and you see, from Adilabad there leads 2 routes over River to "Adilabad".
Therefore, the route to Warangel is a normal route, but it shuold to be all so a riverroute.
See screenshot:

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I think this must be the error, must be an ID conflict in the mapfiles. but don't ask me how to clear this.

I make a testgame with GB and try to move to this province.

You found the bug! Many thanks. I was so embarrassed of the long search for this bug that I never looked at this province. Luckily you have done this. The bug is indeed happening because this province is connected to itself. If you comment out this line or replace province 781 with province 729 (the missing river connection) all is fine.
I'm surprised how easy it is to modify adj_defs.csv and province.csv. While I was correcting the buggy river connection I also added the missing port in Ochotsk and the missing Kiel Canal (sic!). Both are now back in the game. Out of curiosity I have added the port of Hamburg, too.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Now it is time to release the first alpha of the mapmodifikation.
All areas and regions now been sorted and on there right positions.
Here a list of free and unused and newly created areas:

Insel Diego Gracia (free)
Nördl. Salomon Inseln (free)
Nördliche Neue Hebriden (free)
Nauru (free)
Johnston-Atoll (free)
Nördl. Gilberinseln (free)
Senjavin (free)
Neubraunschweig (free)
Vermont (Kaschmir)
Massachussets (Patagonia)
New Jersey (Recife)
Mississippi (Yucatan)
Kansas (Oxaca)
North Dakota (Novo León)
Connecticut_Rhode Island (Sinola)
The Falklands (Champagne)
Magdalena (Tirol)
El Alamein (Venedig)
Danakil Plateau (Kongo)
Rehe (Schlesien)


This Version does not set the climate, terrain and economy of the map, this will come with late rversions. This version is just for inspect the new area and region and to find bugs and for ideas.
It comes with the E3 map, and with Fürstenbischof's event files. Damed, I forgot his scenariofile. Just download it in his post.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11414191&postcount=6251

Here comes the Download

Cool, I'll try them tomorrow. I hope that I can comment on your changes on Wednesday.

Please shorten your download. Neither the map nor the events and scenario files are atm needed. We can safely assume that anyone who is interested in your modified files has these already on his hdd.

 

[unmerged(46856)]

You found the bug! Many thanks. I was so embarrassed of the long search for this bug that I never looked at this province. Luckily you have done this. The bug is indeed happening because this province is connected to itself. If you comment out this line or replace province 781 with province 729 (the missing river connection) all is fine.
I'm surprised how easy it is to modify adj_defs.csv and province.csv. While I was correcting the buggy river connection I also added the missing port in Ochotsk and the missing Kiel Canal (sic!). Both are now back in the game. Out of curiosity I have added the port of Hamburg, too.

I'am glad that I can help you. I wonder about the easy to fix the problem.

Port of Hamburg....YEAH !

This evening I've fixed climate and terrain of europe. So it will be a long task, but day for day the work will become finished.

 

[Fürstbischof]

I'am glad that I can help you. I wonder about the easy to fix the problem.

I needed only a hint where to search. After spending several hours with adding each province after another to the revolter India I couldn't see no longer the wood for the trees.

Port of Hamburg....YEAH !

Hamburg is in thanks to a helpful description which mexbuild gave here. To my surprise he hadn't noted that you have to add a port seazone, too. Since I already had identified this as the cause of the missing port of Ochotsk, it was easy to fix.

This evening I've fixed climate and terrain of europe. So it will be a long task, but day for day the work will become finished.

Great! Although now I have to redo my small fixes to province.csv because my province.csv is already outdated. Can you when you have finished your planned changes this evening upload your updated province.csv, so that I can add my fixes later to it? Once done I will upload it again, so that you can continue tomorrow.