I stand corrected, and slightly embarrassed. Thank you good sir. Being cheeky it could be called Sus Hostia Imperium just to troll us.That would be a problem.![]()
I stand corrected, and slightly embarrassed. Thank you good sir. Being cheeky it could be called Sus Hostia Imperium just to troll us.That would be a problem.![]()
You're thinking of Constantinople. Rome is in Italy.The real fall of Rome was in 1453
Rome as in the empire, I'm sure he means.You're thinking of Constantinople. Rome is in Italy.
Always happy to enlighten the peasant rabble.I stand corrected, and slightly embarrassed. Thank you good sir. Being cheeky it could be called Sus Hostia Imperium just to troll us.
Oh, does he mean the Holy Roman Empire? That was around until 1806.Rome as in the empire, I'm sure he means.Rome fell in 1453.
Oh, does he mean the Holy Roman Empire? That was around until 1806.
thank godIt would not. WtWSMS is an overhaul mod for CK2, and unrelated to separate game projects. Also, I think the other people in the team share the idea that it would be better to have a game made by the professional paradox. And then, nothing prevents me from modding that game onwardsin case I disagree on some things...![]()
By Rome, I meant the Roman Empire.
The capital of the Roman Empire was moved from Rome to Constantinople in 330 AD and stayed there until 1453 AD.
The term Rome and Roman really took on a life of their own apart from the actual city of Rome.
I believe that the term Byzantine Empire was one which was made up by scholars much later and that at the actual time of the Byzantine Empire it was just known as the Roman Empire.
I heard from Stephen Fry that even modern Greeks call themselves Ρωμιός (Rhomaios) -- "Romans".
Also, after the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans, even the Ottoman Sultans called themselves, among other things, "Caesar of Rome" (Kayser-i-Rûm).
This was one of the reasons for the deadly animosity between the Ottomans and the Habsburgs - the Habsburgs by claiming themselves the Holy Roman Emperor were, as the Ottomans saw it, proclaiming themselves as pretenders and usurpers to the title rightly held by the Ottoman Kayser!
So.... that's what I meant when I said the real fall of Rome was 1453.