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Mike if you could pass the save to me a few minutes before we start I'll edit in some cultures.

Brandenburg = Polish and Czech (wouldnt mind dutch as well hehe,)

Russia = Ugric and Mongol

Mughals = I'll take a look at a GC and give you two likely ones.

EDIT: Bengali, Gujarti and Baluchi look best for Timurids. If we go for 3 cultures, russia could take say Khazak and I could take dutch.

EDIT AGAIN: scratch Baluci its only 6 worthless provinces, Dravidian or Marathi would be better.
 
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Good fun session there with around 25 years played.

Muscowy saw its hand forced in a number of wars, including 3 against their former overlords the Golden Horde, another against Novgorod, a further war against Lithuania, and yet one more conflict against Crimea.

Yet despite the new hostility many have towards Muscowy from it's conquests, Ivan III can be happy that he nows rule over almost all the Russians. The Golden horde was forced to hand over vast swathes of lands, including Kazan, Ufa, Voronesk, Tambov, Saratow, and Samara. The Crimeans gave up Lugansk, and were forced into making large monetary concessions. Lithuania gave up Tula, Weliki, Belgorod and Kursk, and Novgorod was annexed outright.

This new Muscovian empire is pleased that now Suzdal and the Crimea are vassals, providing valuable forces and income to aid the reign of Ivan III. Now only the lone provinces of Pskov (Teutonic Order), Ingermanland (Denmark), Karelia and Kola (Sweden) and Bogutjar (Golden Horde) are left to ensure that all Russian and Muscovite lands are united.

Financially Muscowy is strong, with its income growing in leaps and bounds, aided in no part by its strong infrastructure. Plans are already in place to trial chief judges in the next score years. But it is internally that Muscowy looks now - to the peaceful aquisition of Suzal, and its second province of Ryazan. Following that, given all our aims have been met already against Lithuania, the wide steppes of Sibir beckon, with perhaps an early push into Siberia...
 
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Playing Brandenburg is a hoot, though I wonder if I can hold off the Bohemian/Austrian alliance...

I noticed at sessions end your badboy was particularly high. All you need now is the Hungarian/Polish alliance to jump on in and we'll see what Brandenburg is really made of :)
 
Far as I see it we have 3 options

I attempt to fix Brandenburg (but it really isnt that suitable to an MP game without a human Austria, my sucess rate in SP at dominating Germany is less then 50% anyway)

I switch to another country like the Ottomans

We start a fresh game and I wear the proverbial egg on the face for my boastful comments...
 
Well its up to you in some ways System.

No sense playing on if you aren't going to have much fun out of the game.

On the other hand, I'm thoroughly enjoying Muscowy, so if we edit thats fine with me. Alternatively, I'd probably enjoy playing the same nation if we start a new game.
 
I would prefer we edit and play on.

While you guys carve up europe ive had to fight constant revolts. I do not want to have to play through another 30 years of revolts.

So edit the best you can.

Ive played on in SP and brandenburged survied and didnt give up any provinces that i could see. You made your own bed with to many wars and conquests to quickly, so now you lie in german scum.
 
Im around joel if you need the save. I'll turn TS on, join if you want the save.

We going to play today, im bored. I need india to conquer to satisfy my appetite.
 
Save edited with the following:

Brandenburg:
-10 BB
+250 Gold (to use to gain peace)
-10 War Exhaustion

Muscowy:
Khazak culture changed to Ruthenian
-10 BB

Timurids:
+250 Gold
Inflation dropped from 0.7 to 0.000

England:
+1000 Gold

France:
+500 Gold
-10 BB

I let the wars be, given my experience at editing is a little rusty.
 
Oh and mike I got your phone message. I do believe that I told you last night that I was going to the cricket today. Sorry about the mix up I hope you and Joel didn't wait around for a long time, but I did tell you...