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Apologies for the slow response. Various outside the forum issues and I was also having various tech issues too. At least for now the tech issues are behind me.
But you are correct, @Midnite Duke : the king has duties to attend to and he has yet to show results. Þorolfr is like your Doux Alek in some ways. He became king at 27, and at that time was betrothed to a young teenager. He did not marry her until his early 30s. And because they rule in their separate courts, how often do they really see each other? (At this point, do they even like each other?)
We don't often get into King Þorolfr's stats but he is a fairly mediocre 37 total. His best stat is his 15 martial, which is reflected accurately in the AAR. He also has a growing intrigue score of 10.
What more can these half-brothers compete over?
Seems we've roused the young King Þorolfr and strayed into too many sensitive topics.
Time to jump back into my own AAR, if I know what's good for me!
Obviously, @StrategyGameEnthusiast knows a thing or three and no doubt has played the Norse. Both Þorolfr and his father had to reconquer parts of Norway. If you are playing Denmark, this seems to be the way of it until you can find your way out of gavelkind.
But you are correct, @Midnite Duke : the king has duties to attend to and he has yet to show results. Þorolfr is like your Doux Alek in some ways. He became king at 27, and at that time was betrothed to a young teenager. He did not marry her until his early 30s. And because they rule in their separate courts, how often do they really see each other? (At this point, do they even like each other?)
We don't often get into King Þorolfr's stats but he is a fairly mediocre 37 total. His best stat is his 15 martial, which is reflected accurately in the AAR. He also has a growing intrigue score of 10.
For now the AAR has gone into its poetry phase, but it seems you have read ahead a bit @Midnite Duke . Eventually the poetry will deliver us to these very issues. Or perhaps my attempts at foreshadowing have worked.
What more can these half-brothers compete over?
Seems we've roused the young King Þorolfr and strayed into too many sensitive topics.
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Status: I have finished a 1187 goof (no note taking) game. The next time that I journey into CK I will roll a 1081 realm and start the second WayBack voyage.
I rolled the Earl of Strathearn (Gille Brigte) and his ten children. He was a Catholic Scot in the Kingdom of Scotland. (Queen Elizabeth II re-established the title and awarded it to Prince William upon his marriage.) I immediately switched to Tanistry election succession. (In game second son inherited, in OTL fourth son inherited as Gille Brigte outlived three oldest sons.) I remained Catholic but an Englishman was elected and succession switched to Gavelkind. When the Englishman inherited, the Earl of Dax (Kingdom of Ireland) was attempting to overthrow the Englishman's brother and make the Englishman the Duke of Gascogne instead of his brother. Success! I am now a Duke in Basque country instead of a English Earl in landlocked Scotland. (I was surprised that I was still a Scottish subject instead of an Irish subject.) I ended the game in the Kingdom of Skottland as my last three lieges were Swedish.
The mid 1440s crusade produced a very small and short-lived crusader kingdom. The Pope called for a crusade against the High Chief of Chermesia for Vladimir (I think eight counties). The Pope died before the crusade was launched and replaced by a Plantagenet noble. Pope Plantagenet was killed on the battlefield by a chief. The new Pope and the Chermesia High Chieftess (her father died of wounds) negotiated a settlement where she would turn over her Vladimir holdings to the King of Iraq's second son. After a month, the Crusader King would survey his lands and turn over his county to the Teutonic Order. The former Crusader King would travel not south to rejoin his father but west to his mother, the Duchess of Silesia, in the Kingdom of Poland. In the 1450 survey, the High Chieftess of Chermesia was the largest Pagan (Suomenusko) with the largest Tengri as a vassal.
I am going to do a few small posts comparing and contrasting the top twenty-one of 1425 Avlonas (world A) and 1450 Strathearn (world S). In neither game was I a very large factor on the top twenty-one. Fewer than half of world A's top twenty-one repeated on world S.
I rolled the Earl of Strathearn (Gille Brigte) and his ten children. He was a Catholic Scot in the Kingdom of Scotland. (Queen Elizabeth II re-established the title and awarded it to Prince William upon his marriage.) I immediately switched to Tanistry election succession. (In game second son inherited, in OTL fourth son inherited as Gille Brigte outlived three oldest sons.) I remained Catholic but an Englishman was elected and succession switched to Gavelkind. When the Englishman inherited, the Earl of Dax (Kingdom of Ireland) was attempting to overthrow the Englishman's brother and make the Englishman the Duke of Gascogne instead of his brother. Success! I am now a Duke in Basque country instead of a English Earl in landlocked Scotland. (I was surprised that I was still a Scottish subject instead of an Irish subject.) I ended the game in the Kingdom of Skottland as my last three lieges were Swedish.
The mid 1440s crusade produced a very small and short-lived crusader kingdom. The Pope called for a crusade against the High Chief of Chermesia for Vladimir (I think eight counties). The Pope died before the crusade was launched and replaced by a Plantagenet noble. Pope Plantagenet was killed on the battlefield by a chief. The new Pope and the Chermesia High Chieftess (her father died of wounds) negotiated a settlement where she would turn over her Vladimir holdings to the King of Iraq's second son. After a month, the Crusader King would survey his lands and turn over his county to the Teutonic Order. The former Crusader King would travel not south to rejoin his father but west to his mother, the Duchess of Silesia, in the Kingdom of Poland. In the 1450 survey, the High Chieftess of Chermesia was the largest Pagan (Suomenusko) with the largest Tengri as a vassal.
I am going to do a few small posts comparing and contrasting the top twenty-one of 1425 Avlonas (world A) and 1450 Strathearn (world S). In neither game was I a very large factor on the top twenty-one. Fewer than half of world A's top twenty-one repeated on world S.
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Always interesting to see how these things can vary from one time line to another. If you could bring yourself to permit it, a single large scale map screenshot of each world at its end point would be really nice!
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A Russian crusader kingdom is interesting...
How large was this Scotland, and how did the Swedes inherit or conquer it?
How large was this Scotland, and how did the Swedes inherit or conquer it?
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Apologies for being away (and the road is calling again soon). Good to see you continuing to find original ways to spin out the rest of this epic. Good luck to you as you continue toward the inevitable.
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Finally finished. Glad to see Avon end well. Thank you for all you have done and sorry for not commenting sooner.
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Thank you for replying. Everything to do with Avlonas (world A) is lost to the vastness of virtual reality. I have never taken a screenshot, and I got exhausted reading @Eurasia explain how to upload, so I do not believe a screenshot is happening anytime soon. But what I will do is breakdown who owns all counties and larger in each of the twenty-four de jure empires at the end of Strathearn (world S). I would prefer to start in one of the four corners: northeast, Tartaria (Mongol Empire is not de jure); southeast, Deccan; southwest, Mali; northwest, Scandinavia.Always interesting to see how these things can vary from one time line to another. If you could bring yourself to permit it, a single large scale map screenshot of each world at its end point would be really nice!
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Thank you for replying. I love/dislike your comments. I love them because they are so good and dislike them because they cause extra research. I had no notes on that game and went back and got info on Scotland/Skottland and the top twenty-one.
Russian crusader kingdoms are interesting even if they are more county than kingdom and only last a month. During the added research, I found that the end Teutonic Order Grandmaster is the uncle of the young king who presented his one county to the Order. In a 1204 game, the third crusade was for Khazaria. The wonderful Pope with his infinite wisdom presented Khazaria to me (I needed a crusade grant, or I was facing game-over for non-dynastic heir.)
The last Scottish monarch of the Kingdom of Scotland was Queen Affaic (reign 1360-1400). Her first marriage was to a Swedish deadbeat dad who resented being a breed stallion (King-consort) in Scotland and deserted Queen Affaic and Prince Åke to be a gelding (Bishop) in Sweden. Upon Queen Affaic dying in her sleep at age 73, King Åke (1400-13) took the throne at age 48 as the first Swedish ruler of the Kingdom of Skottland. After his natural death at age 61, his 7yo son became King Valdemar (1413-1436). In 1427, Duke Hugh of Moray rebelled to replace King Valdemar with Earl Colban of Argyll (grandson of Queen Affaic by her second marriage). After Valdemar lost his battle with illness, his 8yo son became King Åke II (1436-51). After King Åke II was removed by papal decree (excommunication war), his 2yo daughter became Queen Inga (1451- ). After a quarter century, Anne Howe has Duke Hugh plus fifty-four though he has not won any battles (there were no battles during the first decade of the war). Queen Inga controls thirty holdings while Duke Hugh controls eighteen for a total of forty-eight. An Irish attack-dog is trying to pilfer a county from Duke Hugh.
I am planning to do three posts on world S (Strathearn). The three are the top twenty-one Catholics, non-Catholic Christians and the non-Christians. All of the information that I include will be because of your questions. Thank you, very much.
Choosing which Empire that I will breakdown first is not limited to @Bullfilter. The race is on!
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No worries about speed, all comments are appreciated. Avon is not quite done. I have a death of Vukasin and a small ten-year check on King Dmitar left. Thank you for your service as Captain and good friend of Despot/Basileus Vukasin.
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Thank you very much for choosing Scandinavia. I have decided to do a twenty-four chapter AAR, one for each of the de jure empires. The northlands will be first. We will visit the lands of the three kings, King @Nikolai of Norway, King @Chac1 of Denmark and King @Bergil of Sweden. One is delighted, one is disappointed and one is devasted with their realm's performance. The devasted one, even got a bad nickname. There are six other rulers based in the northlands with three outsiders having at least a county title. (I did not look at barony level holdings.) More details coming.
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I can't wait to see which one of the D's lands upon me. Thank you for including me and thanks to @Bullfilter for putting in a good word for Scandinavia.
Will this be a new AAR? Or will it be a postscript that is part of Avon?
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