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Still, i´m confused with the triggers of the 1st event of the Italy surrenders series. Id 462021 - Italy surrenders - regime change.
I didn´t touch this part from the original McNaughtn event:

It says:

# Africa not in Italy hands
NOT = {
OR = {
control = { province = 1085 data = ITA } #Tripoli not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1097 data = ITA } #Tobruk not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1087 data = ITA } #Sirt not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1295 data = ITA } #Addis Ababa not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1081 data = ITA } #Tunis not controlled by Italy
}
}

# South Italy invaded
NOT = {
AND = {
control = { province = 908 data = ITA } #Roma not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 893 data = ITA } #Taranto not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 898 data = ITA } #Siracusa not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 897 data = ITA } #Messina not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 903 data = ITA } #Cosenza not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 901 data = ITA } #Napoli not controlled by Italy
}
}

What confuses me are the OR and the AND after the NOT. In North Africa lost it says NOT = { OR... Doesn´t it mean that the conditions are met if at least one of those NAfrican provs is not in Italian hands?

And in the # South Italy invaded part says NOT = { AND... Doesn´t it mean that all of those provs must be lost before the event triggers?

Shouldn´t it be: Lose all N.Africa and then ONE of those Italian provs?

I´m confused
:confused: :confused:
 
Originally posted by nachinus
Still, i´m confused with the triggers of the 1st event of the Italy surrenders series. Id 462021 - Italy surrenders - regime change.
I didn´t touch this part from the original McNaughtn event:

It says:

[...]

What confuses me are the OR and the AND after the NOT. In North Africa lost it says NOT = { OR... Doesn´t it mean that the conditions are met if at least one of those NAfrican provs is not in Italian hands?

And in the # South Italy invaded part says NOT = { AND... Doesn´t it mean that all of those provs must be lost before the event triggers?

Shouldn´t it be: Lose all N.Africa and then ONE of those Italian provs?

I´m confused
:confused: :confused:
it is a simple explanation, just think it like this:
this line: "control = { province = 901 data = ITA } "
gives a result, 0 if it FALSE, 1 if it is TRUE, now lets apply the operators...
1 OR 1 = 1
1 OR 0 = 1
0 OR 0 = 0
so:
# Africa not in Italy hands
NOT = {
OR = {
control = { province = 1085 data = ITA } #Tripoli not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1097 data = ITA } #Tobruk not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1087 data = ITA } #Sirt not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1295 data = ITA } #Addis Ababa not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 1081 data = ITA } #Tunis not controlled by Italy
}
}

it will give you a 0 when all conditions are 0, (ITA not controls ANY of them), then by the NOT clause, the 0 becomes a 1.
If ITA controls only 1 of those, it will 1 OR 0 OR 0 OR 0 OR 0 = 1, with the NOT clause it becomes a 0, so the event will not trigger.

Now with the AND...
1 AND 1 = 1
1 AND 0 = 0
0 AND 0 = 0
so:
# South Italy invaded
NOT = {
AND = {
control = { province = 908 data = ITA } #Roma not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 893 data = ITA } #Taranto not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 898 data = ITA } #Siracusa not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 897 data = ITA } #Messina not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 903 data = ITA } #Cosenza not controlled by Italy
control = { province = 901 data = ITA } #Napoli not controlled by Italy
}
}

it will give a 0 when ITA doesn't control 1 of this, because 0 AND 1 AND 1 AND 1 AND 1 AND 1 = 0, with the NOT clause it becomes a 1.
When ITA does not control any of this, it doesn't matter, because all 0 = 0, with the NOT they become a 1.
The only case this section gives a 0 as a result is when all are 1 (ITA controls all of them), then by the NOT clause they become a 0.

I hope you get it, if you don't, tell me and i will write it in spanish. ;)
I have based this theory over the events that Paradox made, check the original files, and you will notice that they use this system (I know Havard says something diferent, but i prefer to beleive the Paradox way ;) ).
Some examples:
2030 The Treaty of Munich
2040 The End of Czechoslovakia
2008 Claiming Memel
2050 The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
2051 The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
2021 Vichy France
2025 Hitler has been assasinated!
2026 Failed Assassination of Hitler
and more...

cheers.
Fer.
:D
 
Err, yes, more or less i get it... i will read it again tomorrow when i´m not under the influence of psychotropic substances;) .

Now, seriously, i got it, but... #SPANISH# no se contradice con lo que pone en la página de Havard´s?, no sé, a lo mejor es que no comprendí bien lo que allí explicaba.#END_SPANISH#

Sorry about the spanish lines, but i don´t know if it´s a verb in english for 'contradecir' .

;)
 
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Originally posted by nachinus
Err, yes, more or less i get it... i will read it again tomorrow when i´m not under the influence of psychotropic substances;) .

Now, seriously, i got it, but... #SPANISH# no se contradice con lo que pone en la página de Havard´s?, no sé, a lo mejor es que no comprendí bien lo que allí explicaba.#END_SPANISH#

Sorry about the spanish lines, but i don´t know if it´s a verb in english for 'contradecir' .

;)
that's way i put this line:
"...(I know Havard says something diferent, but i prefer to beleive the Paradox way )..."

and that's why i give you a list of "Paradox made"® :)p ) events so you can check it.
Some examples:
2030 The Treaty of Munich
2040 The End of Czechoslovakia
2008 Claiming Memel
2050 The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
2051 The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
2021 Vichy France
2025 Hitler has been assasinated!
2026 Failed Assassination of Hitler
and more...

by the way, McNaughton wrote those events the way you sugest, and they didn't work right, so i rewrote them all, that's why they are scripted that way. ;)
 
Finished extended descs for CORE_italy events

Here are some descritpions for most of the core_italy file events. I tried to add some historical facts, and obviously, make descs longer than 1 single line;)

They are in English and Spanish

Hope you like them, maybe they could be used in next version?:)

####File: Italy_core Event authors: McNaughton, Generalissimo

#id: 462005
Name: "War in Europe"
Desc: "The Italian nation prepares for war. The unestability in Europe has lead once again to war, and it was only a matter of time that this war expands and Italy will be involved in it. It´s time to take measures and make our young men obey the call of duty; the recruitment centers are full with volunteers and the reserves are called. Our country and our Armed Forces must be prepared."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "La nación italiana se prepara para la guerra. La inestabilidad en Europa ha abocado al continente una vez más a la guerra, e Italia se verá envuelta de uno u otro modo. Es la hora de tomar medidas y que nuestros jóvenes obedezcan la llamada del deber; los centros de reclutamiento están llenos de voluntarios y los reservistas han sido mobilizados. Nuestro país y nuestras fuerzas armadas deben estar preparadas."


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#id: 462006
Name: "Lybia falls"
Desc: "The once proud Italian colonies of Lybia tumbled down with the power of the Allied offensive in North Africa. Italian citizens in North Africa tried to return to Italy or were captured by the allies, some of them even were killed by the furious lybian people. The army in the black continent were in very bad shape in the morale was very low. With the fall of Libya Italy increased conscripton to prepare for the inevitable invasion of Southern Europe by the Allies."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "La antaño orgullosa colonia italiana en Libia se desmoronó ante el poder de la ofensiva aliada en el Norte de África. Los ciudadanos italianos en el Norte de África trataron de volver a Italia o fueron capturados por los aliados, algunos corrieron peor suerte y fueron asesinados por los furiosos nativos libios. El Ejército en el continente negro estaba en una muy baja forma y la moral era muy baja. Con la caída de Libia Italia tuvo que incrementar la concripción para prepararse para la inevitable invasión del Sur de Europa por los Aliados"


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#Id: 462007
Name: "Creation of a Ethiopian vassal"
Desc: "One of the first objetives of Benito Mussolini when he took the power in Italy was, as part of his idea of builiding a new glorious Italian Empire, to resume the expansion plans in Ethiopia taking revenge of the humiliating defeat of the italian army in Adua in 1896 against that country. The Society of Nations showed its disgust with this new war in Abysinia, but did not take any serious measures. Addis Abeba fell into Italian hands and in May, 1936 and the Duce proclamed King Vittorio Emmanuel the new Emperor of Ethiopia, annexing it to the emerging Italian Empire. (Note: Annexing Ethiopia can cause sporadic freedom fighters revolts in those territories)."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "Uno de los primeros objetivos que se marcó Benito Mussolini cuando llegó al poder en Italia fué, como parte de su idea de construir un nuevo grandioso Imperio Italiano, reanudar los planes de expansión en Etiopía vengándose de la humillante derrota que sufrió el ejército italiano en Adua en 1896 contra los abisinios. La Sociedad the Naciones mostró su disgusto ante ésta nueva guerra en Etiopía, pero no tomó medidas serias para impedirla. Addis Abeba cayó en manos italianas en Mayo de 1936 y el Duce proclamó al Rey Vittorio Emmanuel el nuevo Emperador de Etiopía, anexionándola al emergente Imperio Italiano. (Nota: Anexionar Etiopía puede causar revueltas esporádicas en su territorio)."


#####
#Id: 462015
Name: "Ethiopia demands East Africa!"
Desc: "The war against Ethiopia has not been as easy as our government thought in a first stance. The hard climatic conditions as well as the rough terrain have been decissive factors that Ethiopians have taken advantage of. This is a humiliating defeat, we have been expulsed out of Africa by a poor, third-world country and our army has showed that it´s not prepared to fight a serious war. Now, ethiopian demand our dominions in East Africa to sign peace."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "La guerra contra Etiopía no ha sido tan fácil como nuestro gobierno pensó en un primer momento. Las duras condiciones climáticas así como el difícil y desconocido terreno han sido factores decisivos de los que los etíopes han sabido sacar ventaja. Ésta es una derrota humillante, hemos sido expulsados del Norte de África por un país pobre y tercermundista, y nuestro ejército ha demostrado que no está praparado para una verdadera guerra. Ahora, Etiopía exige nuestros dominios en el Este de África para llegar a un acuerdo de paz."

#####
#Id: 462020
Name: "Death of Italo Balbo"
Desc: "Italo Balbo was an italian pilot and politician. He served as officer in the Italian Army the during the First World War; after that he joined the fascist movement and helped Mussolini to take control of the government. He had different charges in fascist regime: he was part of the Black Shirts militia, minister of Air, and ambassador in Lybia. During the war he was assigned as commander of the Italian forces in North Africa, and three years after Balbo was accidentally killed by friendly Anti-Aircraft fire as he flew over Tobruk. However, it is very likely that Mussolini had him killed as he was a threat to his hold on the Italian people."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "Italo Balbo fué un piloto y político italiano. Sirvió como oficial en el Ejército Italiano durante la Primera Guerra Mundial; posteriormente se unió al movimiento fascista y ayudó a Mussolini a llegar al poder. Desempeñó diferentes cargos en el régimen fascista: fué parte de los Camisas Negras, ministro del Aire y embajador en Libia. Durante la guerra se le asignó el cargo de comandante de las Fuerzas Armadas en el Norte de África, y tres años despúes de su nombramiento, Balbo fué accidentalmente asesinado al ser derribado su avión por el fuego antiaéreo de su propio ejército mientras sobrevolaba Tobruk. Es muy posible que su muerte no fuera accidental y que Mussolini ordenara su muerte ya que Balbo era tan querido y reputado que suponía una amenaza para su dominio del pueblo Italiano."


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#Id: 462021
Name: "Failure of Fascism"
Desc: "When Italy lost all its African colonies and the Allies were knocking at the doors of Italy, it was clear that the country couldn´t continue in the war under. The population was sick of it, the armed forces demoralized and humiliated and the economy ruined. The series of disasters and defeats that Mussolini and his fascist regime lead his country to, ruined his popularity and his credit as politician and leader. In July 24, 1943, the Great Fascist Council met and voted to retire Mussolini from the government and following Dino Grandi proposal, restore King Victor Emmanuel authority bringing the fascist regime to its end. The proposal was secunded even by Ciano, Mussolini´s son-in-law. The King adressed Field Marshal Badoglio to form a new government, Mussolini was arrested and the first necessary measures to negotiate with allied forces were taken."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "Cuando Italia perdió todas sus colonias africanas y los Aliados llamaban a las puertas del país, resultaba evidente que Italia no podía seguir combatiendo. La población estaba harta, las fuerzas armadas desmoralizadas y humilladas y la economía arruinada. La serie de desastres y derrotas a los que Mussolini y su régimen fascista había llevado a su país, arruinaron su popularidad y su crédito como político y líder de la nación. El 24 de Julio de 1943, el Gran Consejo Fascista se reunió y votó retirar a Mussolini del gobierno y, deacuerdo con la propuesta de Dino Grandi, restaurar la autoridad del Rey Victor Emmanuel acabando con el régimen fascista. La propuesta fué apoyada incluso por Ciano, el yerno del Duce. El Rey encargó al Mariscal Badoglio formar un nuevo gobierno, Mussolini fué arrestado y se tomaron las primeras medidas necesarias para negociar con los Aliados."


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#Id: 462022
Name: "Negotiations"
Desc: "After the change of government in Italy, Field Marshal Badoglio immediatly started the secret contacts with the allied powers in order to abandon the war and join the allied sphere of influence. The Allies offered Italy a 2-part surrender agreement. These were known as the Short Terms and the Long Terms. These Terms included the cessation of hostilities, returning of allied prisoners, surrender of the military arsenal and the establishment of an allied military government. Italy is given time to decide."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "Después del cambio de régimen en Italia, el Mariscal Badoglio inmediatamente comenzó a realizar de forma secreta con los poderes aliados con el objeto de abandonar la guerra y unirse a la esfera de influencia aliada. Los aliados ofrecieron a Italia un armisticio que constaba de dos partes; éstas eran conocidas como las 'Condiciones a Corto plazo' y las 'Condiciones a Largo plazo'. Éstas condiciones incluían el cese de hostilidades, la repatriación de los prisioneros aliados en poder de Italia, rendición de todo el arsenal militar y el establecimiento de un gobierno militar aliado en los territorios italianos. Italia tiene tiempo para decidir."


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#Id: 462023
Name: "Decisive Decision"
Desc: "The secret negotiations between Badoglio and the Allies eventually came to the Allied final rendition offer. The terms were hard, but Italy was exhausted. The treaty was to leave the axis and sign peace with the Allies and the Soviet Union, return the prisioners in italian soil, surrender the arsenal and give the allies control over most of the country, establishing a military government. Obviously, Hitler would be furious if Italy left the Axis, and the german troops in italian soil, dangerously in Rome´s and other important cities´ surroundings since the change of regime, could try to take over the country, but the situation was desperate. Finally, Badoglio signed the armistice in September 8, 1943, as the allied troops advanced deeper into Italian soil."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "Las negociaciones entre Badoglio y los Aliados llegaron a la oferta de rendición definitiva. Las condiciones eran duras, pero Italia estaba exhausta. El trato era abandonar el Eje y firmar la paz con los Aliados y la Unión Soviética, devolver los prisioneros que se encontraran en tierra italiana, rendir el arsenal bélico y dar a los aliados el control de casi todo el país, estableciendo un gobierno militar. Obviamente, Hitler se pondría furioso si Italia abandonara el Eje, y las tropas alemanas en suelo italiano, peligrosamente situadas en los alrededores de Roma y otras ciudades importantes desde la caída del fascismo, podrían intentar alguna maniobra contra el gobierno de Badoglio, pero la situación era desesperada. Finalmente, Badoglio firmó el armisticio el 8 de Septiembre de 1943, mientras las tropas aliadas avanzaban hacia el interior del país."

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#Id: 462024
Name: "England´s Allies"
Desc: "Immediately after the regime change in Italy, Field Marshal Badoglio, the new italian Prime Minister, started the secret contacts to sign an armistice with the Aliies. After some intense negotiations, it was evident that Italy was in a desperate situation and accepted the hard terms: leave the axis and sign peace with the Allies and the Soviet Union, return the prisioners in italian soil, surrender the arsenal and give the allies control over most of the country, establishing a military government, shared between UK and the USA. At the same time that the armistice was signed, the german troops in italian soil took over most of the northern provinces and established a new Italian fascist government, the 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana', ruled by Mussolini who was rescued from his prision by german paratroopers."

#SPANISH_Desc: "Inmediatamente después del cambio de régimen en Italia, el Mariscal Badoglio, el nuevo Primer Ministro italiano, comenzó los contactos secretos con los aliados para firmar un armisticio. Tras unas intensas negociaciones, se hizo evidente que Italia estaba en una situación desesperada y aceptó los duros términos: dejar el Eje y firmar la paz con los Aliados y la Unión Soviética, devolver los prisioneros aliados en suelo italiano, rendir su arsenal y ceder a los aliados el control sobre la mayor parte del pais, estableciendo un gobierno militar compartido entre Reino Unido y los USA. Al mismo tiempo que el armisticio era firmado, las tropas alemanas en suelo italiano se hicieron rápidamente con el poder de la mayor parte de las provincias del Norte del país y establecieron un nuevo gobierno fascista, la 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana', gobernada por Mussolini, que fué rescatado de su prisión por paracaidistas Alemanes."


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#Id: 462025 AND 462026
Name: "Repubblica Sociale Italiana"
Desc: "Mussolini´s destitution was an evident sign that Italy was about to tumble down and search a separate peace with the Allies. Since that very first moment, German High Command prepared plans to mobilize their troops in Italy to prevent the country from surrender and re-establish a fascist puppet government. During the night of September 8, 1943, as Field Marshal Badoglio, the Italian prime minister, signed the peace with the allies, German forces surrounded Rome and took over most of the northern provinces. Badoglio and the Royal family fled to allied territory and the Germans established a new puppet government in the controlled provinces, the 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana', under the nominal command of Mussolini, who was rescued from his prision by German paratroopers."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "La destitución de Mussolini era un signo evidente de que Italia estaba a punto de derrumbarse y buscar una paz separada con los Aliados. Desde ese mismo momento, el Alto Mando alemán preparó planes para mobilizar sus tropas en Italia con objeto de impedir que el país se rindiera y restablecer un nuevo gobierno títere fascista. Durante la noche del 8 de Septiembre de 1943, mientras el Mariscal Badoglio, el Primer Ministro Italiano, firmaba el armisticio, fuerzas alemanas rodeaban Roma y se hacían con el control del Norte del país. Badoglio y la familia real huyeron al territorio aliado y los alemanes establecieron un nevo gobierno títere en las provincias en su control, la 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana', bajo el mando nominal de Mussolini, que fué rescatado de su prisión por paracaidistas alemanes."

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#Id: 462027
Name: "Italy joins the Allies"
Desc: "During the night of September 8, 1943, as Field Marshal Badoglio, the Italian prime minister, signed the peace with the allies, German forces surrounded Rome and took over most of the northern provinces. Badoglio and the Royal family fled to allied territory and the Germans established a new puppet government in the controlled provinces, the 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana', under the nominal command of Mussolini, who was rescued from his prision by German paratroopers. After that, half of Italy was in control of Germany and the new fascist regime, and the other half was allied territory. In that situation it was clear that the pro-allied Italy would have to fight alongside with the allies to retake its lost territories."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "Durante la noche del 8 de Septiembre de 1943, mientras el Mariscal Badoglio, el Primer Ministro Italiano, firmaba el armisticio, fuerzas alemanas rodeaban Roma y se hacían con el control del Norte del país. Badoglio y la familia real huyeron al territorio aliado y los alemanes establecieron un nevo gobierno títere en las provincias en su control, la 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana', bajo el mando nominal de Mussolini, que fué rescatado de su prisión por paracaidistas alemanes. Después de eso, la mitad de Italia estaba bajo control de Alemania y el nuevo régimen fascista, y la otra mitad era territorio aliado. En esas circunstancias, estaba claro que la Italia pro-aliada debería de luchar junto a sus nuevos aliados para recuperar sus territorios legítimos."


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#Id: 462028
Name: "Axis disarm Italian Forces in the Balkans"
Desc: "At the time that the armistice with the allies was signed and the Germans established the 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana' with the objective of continuing fighting in Italy against the Allies, the German troops in the Balkans prepared to take control of the Italian-held provinces in that territory. Most Italian forces in the region received the news of the armistice with optimism, wishing to receive at last the order of going home and were caught by surprise by the Germans. They were forced to leave their weapons and give them to the Wehrmacht and SS units and were made prisoners, although some units thought this was a dishonor to their army and fought against the Germans. Though some soldiers and officers could escape and return home before getting captured, most of the Italian Forces in the Balkans were made prisoners or executed."

#ESPAÑOL_Desc: "Al tiempo que se firmaba el armisticio con los aliados y los alemanes establecían la 'Repubblica Sociale Italiana' con el objetivo de continuar presentando batalla en la península Itálica, las tropas alemanas en los balcanes se preparaban para tomar el control de las provincias en manos italianas en ese territorio. La mayoría de las tropas italianas en la región recibieron la noticia del armisticio con optimismo, deseando que al fin llegara la orden de volver a casa y fueron tomados por sorpresa por los alemanes. Se les obligó a esntregar sus armas a las unidades de la Wehrmacht o las SS y fueron hechos prisioneros, aunque algunas unidades tomaron ésto como un deshonor para su uniforme y combatieron a los alemanes. Pese a que algunos soldados y oficiales pudieron escapar y volver a casa antes de ser capturados, la mayoría de los italianos en los Balcanes fueron hechos prisioneros o ejecutados."
 
Nachinus, that looks real good. Did you test them to make sure there's no problems with desc field being too long? Do you have an English-language version of core_Italy.txt that you could send me? We can either add it in the hotfix or the 0.3 release.

EDIT: Also, the core_Africa.txt with your updated desc fields would be great.
 
I tested them with the spanish version, but i assured that the length of the descs aren´t superior to other events, so there shouldn´t be any problem.

OK, i´ll make those files with the new descs and ill send them to you. About the Italy file, i know there´s gonna be some change to it due to the RSI_italy surrenders bugs, but i think that the descs can match with the re-worked events, i suppose.
 
Originally posted by Steel
Do you have an English-language version of core_Italy.txt that you could send me? We can either add it in the hotfix or the 0.3 release.

EDIT: Also, the core_Africa.txt with your updated desc fields would be great.

Done, check your email ;)
 
Sorry If this is actually know thing, but in 1.04 Balbo is also a land leader. So following line should be added in event 462020:

command = { type = sleepleader which = 6278 } #Balbo Land Leader
 
Invasion on Greece...

Some fast scripting and here we go - Italy will attack Grecce in 1940 (thus Greece will not join Axis in 1941 and whole Barbarrosa plan could be delayed even more). :D

##########################################
# Invasion on Greece
#
# by Copper Nicus
##########################################

event = {

id = A
random = no
country = ITA
trigger = {
random = 40
war = { country = GER country = ENG }
control = { province = 527 data = GER } # Germany controls Paris
control = { province = 754 data = GER } # Italy controls Albania
control = { province = 820 data = GER } # Italy controls Albania
NOT = {
war = { country = ITA country = GRE }
}
}


name = "Rebuilding Roman Empire"
desc = "After stunning German success in France, Italy joined Axis and begin agressive moves in the Balkans and Africa. Mussolini's dream, new 'Roman Empire' was visibly at hand. As a part of this plan, Italy started war with Greece (historically on October 28th, 1940)."

style = 0
date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1936 }
offset = 20 # Every 20 days check
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1942 }



action_a = {
name = "Yes, let's recreate Roman Empire!" # :)
command = { type = war which = GRE }
}

action_b = {
name = "Let's finish Allies first..."
command = { type = dissent value = 2 } # It's against his ego
}
}
 
Originally posted by Raczynski
Sorry If this is actually know thing, but in 1.04 Balbo is also a land leader. So following line should be added in event 462020:

command = { type = sleepleader which = 6278 } #Balbo Land Leader

Ooop! that´s true. Good point, Raczynski.:) . Steel, Generalissimo, would you do it, please?

:D
 
Originally posted by nachinus
Copper Nicus:

I can´t understand this:

control = { province = 754 data = GER } # Italy controls Albania
control = { province = 820 data = GER } # Italy controls Albania

GER = Italy controls...?

:confused: :p

Sorry, my mistake (should be ITA of course). Corrected version sent to General. Thanks! :)
 
Is it possible to make Italy more likely to attack GRE without using an event?. I don´t know very much about the Ai behaviour and how to change it, but maybe it could be possible to do something about it.
I don´t like very much to control countries DOWs with events because i think they are too rigid, and ai doesn´t choose the most appropiate option, but chooses randomly it doesn´t matter if it´s prepared for the results of this election or not.

Adding claims for ITA over some GRE provs with the excuse of the new Roman Empire ambitions should work, but it wouldn´t be much realistic, IMHO. Any other way?:confused:
 
I think the main concern with the event posted above is that it doesn't seem to check for Greece being in the Axis. I've never tested what happens if an Axis country DOW's another Axis country...

Nachinus, IIRC we only have one Italian AI file, this is supposed to guide them all the way from war in Ethiopia to the end of the war. Perhaps we can expand that on the "Campaign AI" model used for Germany (who has default AI, Battle of Britain AI, Sealion AI, defence AI, Barbarossa AI) and define a war target for Balkan nations in an AI file that's activated when Italy has joined the Axis and Paris has fallen to Germany. Any suggestions on how the AI for Italy should be divided? Early (Ethiopia + peacetime), mid-game (Axis member, Balkans, North Africa), late game (USSR, defending Italy homeland) and endgame (Allies member) could do but assumes historical progression.


EDIT: Just to clarify what I mean by war target:

combat = { ALB GRE YUG } # declare war on these countries if possible.
 
Italian wars...

There is already similar event forcing Italy to start a war, it's attack on Albania. In case of other countries similar events are used to simulate Winter War, invasion of Persia, invasion on China, and finally start of WW II.
Of course, we can make multiple AI's, but event way is much easier.
Suggestion about alliance noted, I will add to the trigger of the event.
 
Having a 'Campaign AI' for ITA would be perfect, but it would be a lot of work:( , and i don´t know nothing about ai files, so there´s little help i could give, maybe i´ll try to learn about it. Definitely, ai files are the best way to direct AI behaviour and its 'expansion plans' .

I agree with Copper Nicus that using events to direct countries behaviour is easier, but still i think it´s not the best way to do it. I don´t like very much events that lead to wars, including the Albania one, but as it´s a minor war that usually is finished very fast it´s not as important.
 
Originally posted by nachinus
Having a 'Campaign AI' for ITA would be perfect, but it would be a lot of work:( , and i don´t know nothing about ai files, so there´s little help i could give, maybe i´ll try to learn about it. Definitely, ai files are the best way to direct AI behaviour and its 'expansion plans' .

I agree with Copper Nicus that using events to direct countries behaviour is easier, but still i think it´s not the best way to do it. I don´t like very much events that lead to wars, including the Albania one, but as it´s a minor war that usually is finished very fast it´s not as important.
Well, it is dificult to make AI files only to drive the AI, also it will make a game very predictable and static... :(
I prefer events, and 2 or 3 "general" AIs, not more than that. :)

by the wat, i am back as you can see. :D

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