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Barnius said:
According to economy FAQ, Catholic, Orthodox and Sunii have all the same tech speed modifier.
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Really ? Earlier there was not such way, or Johan did the bug with last versions ? Check religion.csv. +3 means 0.97 mutillier

Barnius said:
And Spain owning Italy is dangerous. VERY dangerous. Especially to weakened France. I already see you attempting to connect Iberian and Apenine peninsula :eek:
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Well, Spain is 5th in techspeed according your researchment. If you are doing analytic, please restraing from subjective PR for your own country in it
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Tonioz said:
The question to all:

Is it allowed to edit Andalussia CoT and shipyard to Valencia ? I asked GM, but he referred to public opinion.
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OMG.

I'm absolutely against it. Why?!?!?!? To get a richer COT?
Stop spamming this game with all wild editing ideas! :eek:
Play the hand you are given and spend your idle moments on cunning diplomatic manouvers or propaganda and wonderful tables like Barnius! Not of new ways to edit your nation.

I didn't find a way to vote in Adam Breits new forum. I accept to edit Burgundy under the assumption that all other nations weaker than the result of that edit is edited up to the same level. Everything else is unfair! Or we could just start over in Fantasia to make sure we all get more even set game. :rolleyes:

I joined the game thinking it was not another editing party, the rules says "Editing should be kept to a minimum." It does not say "Edits will be done on an arbitrary basis and for no reason whatsoever."
 
Tonioz said:
If you are doing analytic, please restraing from subjective PR for your own country in it
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Oh, you will soon catch my way of propaganda :D , but basics are:
- to my best knowledge numbers and graphs are correct
- make your own conclussions
- if you read mine, you don't have to (always) believe what I say :D
 
Barnius said:
Oh, you will soon catch my way of propaganda :D , but basics are:
- to my best knowledge numbers and graphs are correct
- make your own conclussions
- if you read mine, you don't have to (always) believe what I say :D
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with all that "evil" thoughts i feel like i really must go to france for those connection :D Perhaps french diplomats want to make me this way angry :D don`t kill the rabbit :)
 
Tonioz said:
with all that "evil" thoughts i feel like i really must go to france for those connection :D Perhaps french diplomats want to make me this way angry :D don`t kill the rabbit :)
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After careful examonation of the messages send to Madrid, we found nothing but admirations and some healthy fear in them, not a sign of any foolish attempt to make Their Spanish Majesties angry :eek: .

France is small country still struggleing to round her territory and subdue the rebellious dukes and comtes, we wouldn't dream of having such high goals as Spain has, but still we do know what honour is: Savoy (the country, not the province) France would like protected as a member of the alliance. And we would also like Genoa to be a strong independent country.
Ah, so much we would like, but it is big and strong and wealthy who determine the events... :(
 
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Norrefeldt said:
I accept to edit Burgundy under the assumption that all other nations weaker than the result of that edit is edited up to the same level.
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as if I'm only getting bonusses....
 
well, in this case Burgundy is boring to play because she has historical leaders only at the beginning (and they are average).

That is same way like BRA doesn`t have leader until becoming Prussia, and Poland is leaderless after 1700. Always would love to mix them in same country.
 
Spain, Ottomans, Venice, Portugal and Denmark don't have any leaders worth mentioning later on. That's why we have random leaders, to help out all nations with leaderless periods.

Burgundy got a much earlier start than Holland that always emerge very weak, he also got more cores and due to him being there Spain, Austria and France are weaker than they would have been without Burgundy played. I see nothing unfair, except from that it would have been good and more conciderate of GM if the future would have been outlined from games start, not discussed and questioned between every session.
 
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Burgundy leaderfile comparing mentioned countries is misery. Holland leaders are not croweded as well, so imho it would make the fun.

in EEP Burgundy has more leaders, but these time they got only three 3-3-3, all before 1500
 
Tonioz said:
Burgundy leaderfile comparing mentioned countries is misery. Holland leaders are not croweded as well, so imho it would make the fun.

in EEP Burgundy has more leaders, but these time they got only three 3-3-3, all before 1500
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Comparing leaderfiles is pretty useless, or should we all ask to get the French or Swedish file? It's never fair.

I'm not against having a player in Holland, but then it should be just them, not with a buildup from years before and extra cores.
 
Norrefeldt said:
OMG.

I'm absolutely against it. Why?!?!?!? To get a richer COT?
Stop spamming this game with all wild editing ideas! :eek:
Play the hand you are given and spend your idle moments on cunning diplomatic manouvers or propaganda and wonderful tables like Barnius! Not of new ways to edit your nation.

I didn't find a way to vote in Adam Breits new forum. I accept to edit Burgundy under the assumption that all other nations weaker than the result of that edit is edited up to the same level. Everything else is unfair! Or we could just start over in Fantasia to make sure we all get more even set game. :rolleyes:

I joined the game thinking it was not another editing party, the rules says "Editing should be kept to a minimum." It does not say "Edits will be done on an arbitrary basis and for no reason whatsoever."
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I completely agree with this!
 
Barnius!

You are crazy! :rolleyes: I love your graphs!

I bring up an idea about comparing tech speed in a better way than just comparing total income. A forthnight later you bring down the moon!

Pravi si genijalac!
 
juv95hrn said:
Barnius!

You are crazy! :rolleyes: I love your graphs!

I bring up an idea about comparing tech speed in a better way than just comparing total income. A forthnight later you bring down the moon!

Pravi si genijalac!
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Thanks, but this is only halh oh the job, now to find relevant data :) .
For example, for Austria I really have to find a more "normal" year.
Monarch contribution is already averaged throughout the session. Something like that has to be done for neighbour bonus.

OR simply save after big events and post more than one stats per session...
 
Barnius said:
Thanks, but this is only halh oh the job, now to find relevant data :) .
For example, for Austria I really have to find a more "normal" year.
Monarch contribution is already averaged throughout the session. Something like that has to be done for neighbour bonus.

OR simply save after big events and post more than one stats per session...
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:eek: Barnius is Coocoo !

-Great job btw, does it include vassals ?
 
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Barnius said:
Thanks, but this is only halh oh the job, now to find relevant data :) .
For example, for Austria I really have to find a more "normal" year.
Monarch contribution is already averaged throughout the session. Something like that has to be done for neighbour bonus.

OR simply save after big events and post more than one stats per session...
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I'm not sure you really can, Barnius. The perfect solution would be to show a graph over time for each nation, taken at, say five-year intervals, so that a "bad" year just 'blips' the graph. But any "snapshot" will inherently have difficulties. It is the progress over time that will matter; Austria's current difficulties with looted provinces and low stability won't be evident in the next between-session snapshot (at least, I fervently HOPE they wont :eek:o ), so that snapshot should produce a much more accurate picture of the Austrian economic picture.

Of course, if you want to do saves every 5 years, then extract the relevant data and build the graphs of that data as a function over time, be my guest. :D

As for the issue of edits: edits are for situations where something vital must be addressed, or the game has glitched in a significant way (e.g.: a manufactory didn't appear when construction complete). Anyone can identify things about their situation that they would wish could be edited differently; but the whole point is to improve your position within the mechanics of the game. And listening to people whine and moan about how unfair their position is (especially in repetitive posts) gets boring. Hopefully, no one will be able to use these words against me later in the game! :p
 
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