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I got the maps from Spain, again, on the same account my apologies, I didn't really think of it as that harmful not to talk about it.

All edits will now be fully told.

Cheech, again, state your 3 slider changes in the Adamo plz :)
 
Portugal has nine loans.. :rofl:

Hear the mild words of the Sultan.
Even I, the edit-hater, realise something is needed. But to make it fair all nations that were AI should get help based on the number of AI sessions. Portugal had a moron playing them, and needs special attention, as do the nations suffering from that lunacy.
 
I suggest all Austrias and all Portugals loans are removed.
 
juv95hrn said:
I suggest all Austrias and all Portugals loans are removed.

i'm sure players used the money somewhere so i'd suggest dropping its intrest to 0 or 1 so they hae to pay very little intrest if any at all but stil have to repay the loans
 
If you do that, I suggest Poland's inflation be lowered as well.

I noticed a few of the times Austria raised mercenaries, which a responsible Austria would never have done. It destroyed Austria's finances, and would be fair to edit out. But, it also cost Poland a lot of extra effort that it shouldn't have had to shoulder had Austria been played with more sanity.
 
Norrefeldt said:
Portugal has nine loans.. :rofl:

Hear the mild words of the Sultan.
Even I, the edit-hater, realise something is needed. But to make it fair all nations that were AI should get help based on the number of AI sessions. Portugal had a moron playing them, and needs special attention, as do the nations suffering from that lunacy.

does a 2/2/2 monarch count as lunacy?

[I'm betting the answer will be no, any takers? :D ]
 
King John said:
If you do that, I suggest Poland's inflation be lowered as well.

I noticed a few of the times Austria raised mercenaries, which a responsible Austria would never have done. It destroyed Austria's finances, and would be fair to edit out. But, it also cost Poland a lot of extra effort that it shouldn't have had to shoulder had Austria been played with more sanity.

Well, it is not a AI matter...
Sweden had 4 loans when Fred reconquered from the danes...
And Poland was apparently rich enough to allow herself to dow russia, which drove sweden into another (too early) war :(
Assuming that some sneaky nations on our southern border (uuhh, no i didn't name denmark, did i :rolleyes: ) could try to take benefit of this war, if polish inflation is lowered, then i demand some help to swedish economy as well.
 
Than France would like to be compensated for total loss of stability (from +3 to -3) because of Portuguese insane politics, as well as loss of tradeing income, which was just recovered.
Part of the compensation can be putting French SE neighbouring countries, currently Portuguese allies, in their rightful place, but that certainly can't cover it all.

As for relations with Portugal, France never expected such foolish wars could happen, because we had very good relations. France is ready to continue as if nothing happened: WP will be signed between France and Portugal as well as between Portugal and Genoa.
 
Well, here is list of some compensations :)

Austria - loans and inflation
Poland - some inflation coz struggling with Austria (but i believe Fred took loans when he had war with BRA, not POL ?)
France - stabhitting by Portugal`s insane (Burgundy too ? But it switched religion)
Portugal - loans, inflation (AI increased it before as well), they lagged a lots in colonization and teching for 40 years.
Spain - 250 ducats sent to Austria to help them with their loans
 
I think austria would have taken the loans when fighting me. IIRR fred never fought poland, it was the other guy.
 
Loans and inflation - Thanks.

France, let's have peace. Why the f... did i join the Genoa in a fight with you?

Let's talk tonight. Perhaps we can even arrange even more.
 
I'm very sorry I were not there monday night without warning. But I didnt know i had to work whole day for school! Again im very sorry.
 
Instead of everyone and his grandmother demanding satisfaction for everything that has happened maybe we should ONLY give compensation to new players?

Many nations have suffered from the inadequate rulership of our neighbours but with new regents in these nations all shall be set right again!

If everyone else are intent on asking compensation I can easily think up some far fetched loss to compensate from these nations but I'd prefer we kept the editing toa minimum and only to make the new player's nations more attractive to play.
 
juv95hrn said:
Instead of everyone and his grandmother demanding satisfaction for everything that has happened maybe we should ONLY give compensation to new players?

Many nations have suffered from the inadequate rulership of our neighbours but with new regents in these nations all shall be set right again!

If everyone else are intent on asking compensation I can easily think up some far fetched loss to compensate from these nations but I'd prefer we kept the editing toa minimum and only to make the new player's nations more attractive to play.

Indeed !
 
juv95hrn said:
Many nations have suffered from the inadequate rulership of our neighbours but with new regents in these nations all shall be set right again!

If everyone else are intent on asking compensation I can easily think up some far fetched loss to compensate from these nations but I'd prefer we kept the editing toa minimum and only to make the new player's nations more attractive to play.

Some nations suffered, some actually got from AI/sub situations, some more directly, some with only minimal connections to AI/sub actions. Portuguese unneeded break of truce was certainly direct :).
 
Adam told me to jump onboard this ship! :)

I will post my ICQ and emailadress later this evening (I´m at work now). Any idea on which country I´ll play?
 
Austria - nice! :)

Well, if you are going to learn how to swim - why not do it in the deepest of waters? ;)