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Aladar said:
Sander please write your ICQ number.
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My icq number is 198-274-019 and have added it to my signature :)
 
regarding random leaders:

I think they should have relatively low avarage stats. The in-game major leaders shouldn't be outclassed by random ones all too often. An in-game leader default leader could be considered a 233 at best so I would suggest that 3 would be the average stat, an occasional 4 raising the quality at times.

I cant really argue about Flanders becoming Holland any more.
 
I've set the random leaders to have avarage stats of 3 with Gaussian distribution (a bell-shaped curve with few values very low and very high). This is how it looks like:

daedalus said:
Ok, I did dome testing with my generator, and came with the following distribution (sample of 100,000), and "normal" value of "3":

Code: 
value[0]:2377     2.3%
value[1]:13628  13.g%
value[2]:33841  33.8%
value[3]:34207  34.2%
value[4]:13665  13.6%
value[5]:2155     2.1%
value[6]:126       0.1%
value[7]:1          0.0%
value[8]:0
The generator is based in a gaussian distribution. IMHO, this kind of distribution is very appropriated for this kind of data.

Now, the siege values have the following distribution:

Code: 
value[0]:81148    81.1%
value[1]:16181    16.1%
value[2]:2517       2.1%
value[3]:153         0.1%
value[4]:1
value[5]:0
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The chance of any one random leader having fire and shock 5 or 6 is 0.0484%.

Is there anyone against having Flandern turn into Holland? Some core/province cut-down will be needed, as Sander suggested.
 
Norrefeldt said:
Is there anyone against having Flandern turn into Holland? Some core/province cut-down will be needed, as Sander suggested.
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Due to not having it Holland much earlier, Flandres has hopeless techs (EXTREMELLY bad monarchs for decades). That could be edited as well. Also, their events should be checked and if some were missed they should be edited in.
 
Thnx guys but which provinces did you have in mind, which must be given up to become holland, i would like to keep those extra dutch provinces. The french and german provinces doesnt matter much too me.
 
Sander_NL said:
Thnx guys but which provinces did you have in mind, which must be given up to become holland, i would like to keep those extra dutch provinces. The french and german provinces doesnt matter much too me.
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As far as France is concerned, this deppends on Dutch future politics. Is Holland to be most trusted French ally in the future as Flandres was so far or will there be some changes in Dutch policy? Really, Stadtholder should contact King of France and we should have a private chat :) .
 
The Doge of Venice offers to help in the negotiations between France and Flanders. Any provinses you can't agree on, simply sign them over to the Doge, and we will make certain they are welltended :)
 
Barnius said:
Due to not having it Holland much earlier, Flandres has hopeless techs (EXTREMELLY bad monarchs for decades). That could be edited as well. Also, their events should be checked and if some were missed they should be edited in.
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They also had a much earlier start than Holland has. I won't edit tech. I'll look into the provinces in the weekend and chat with you Sander. The dutch provinces should remain dutch.

Barnius, couldn't you be so kind as to set up the stats for us?
 
Norrefeldt said:
They also had a much earlier start than Holland has. I won't edit tech. I'll look into the provinces in the weekend and chat with you Sander. The dutch provinces should remain dutch.

Barnius, couldn't you be so kind as to set up the stats for us?
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I forgot to take the laterst save file. Will contact Juv for it and than post stats.
 
Spain please contact me on ICQ about or trade. I haven't seen you online all week, and i'm not entirely sure who Spain is at the moment.

If i'm NA i'm playing WOW, so write me and i'll respond within a few minutes.

Norre, i believe we have an agreement, so please edit those.
 
Barnius said:
As far as France is concerned, this deppends on Dutch future politics. Is Holland to be most trusted French ally in the future as Flandres was so far or will there be some changes in Dutch policy? Really, Stadtholder should contact King of France and we should have a private chat :) .
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I don't care either way what happens with those provinces and FLA becoming HOL etc but these kind of edits should not be discussed with in-game diplomacy in mind. Eternal faithfulness versus a current ally should not be a condition for an edit to be made. Really, such matters should be discussed in an objective manner and done if it benefits the entire campaign, not an individual player.
 
juv95hrn said:
I don't care either way what happens with those provinces and FLA becoming HOL etc but these kind of edits should not be discussed with in-game diplomacy in mind. Eternal faithfulness versus a current ally should not be a condition for an edit to be made. Really, such matters should be discussed in an objective manner and done if it benefits the entire campaign, not an individual player.
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For the benefit of the entire campaign I was advocating FLA>HOL from the start, without ever even mentioning any land beeing transfered from Flandres/Holland to France. I still believe we should have had Holland at least before last session, because as it is, we have no naval competition outside Mediterranean and Baltics.

As for having in mind in-game diplomacy, my intention was only to point out that so far Flandres and France had an agreement basically guaranteeing Flandres French friendship forever. My intention was not to limit possible edits in any way, but only to stress that this special friendship between France and Dutch state could change if Dutch policy is changed. Nothing strange really, I just wanted it to be clear to Sander.

Regarding land, France and Flandres only left Caux as a possible province that could be returned to France. That's why it is still Catholic. But the time and way of transfer was not at all agreed.
 
The Doge of Venice and the King of Spain has signed an agreement​

The south italian provinses of Napoli, Apulia and Marche are returned to Venice, cores included, in exchange of the Iberian provinses of Oporto and Algarve. As payment for infrastructure, The Doge will finance the Spanish empire with 750 ducats.

I the new world Spain offers Rio Grande and Matagorda to The Doge, who in return finances the Spanish Empire with an additional 80 ducats.

Signed

The Doge of Venice King of Spain
 
Barnius said:
For the benefit of the entire campaign I was advocating FLA>HOL from the start, without ever even mentioning any land beeing transfered from Flandres/Holland to France. I still believe we should have had Holland at least before last session, because as it is, we have no naval competition outside Mediterranean and Baltics.

As for having in mind in-game diplomacy, my intention was only to point out that so far Flandres and France had an agreement basically guaranteeing Flandres French friendship forever. My intention was not to limit possible edits in any way, but only to stress that this special friendship between France and Dutch state could change if Dutch policy is changed. Nothing strange really, I just wanted it to be clear to Sander.

Regarding land, France and Flandres only left Caux as a possible province that could be returned to France. That's why it is still Catholic. But the time and way of transfer was not at all agreed.
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France can count on the continuing friendship between Holland and France.:) I will be home just before dinner, so i cant discuss anything about caux and would like to keep that for in game or before next session. I will look at the event files so i know which too choose, but for the greater part of the events i already know which to choose hehe. :)
 
Sander_NL said:
France can count on the continuing friendship between Holland and France.:) I will be home just before dinner, so i cant discuss anything about caux and would like to keep that for in game or before next session. I will look at the event files so i know which too choose, but for the greater part of the events i already know which to choose hehe. :)
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You are lucky, Holland is large enough to accomodate all those manufactories :)
 
Aladar said:
The Doge of Venice and the King of Spain has signed an agreement​

The south italian provinses of Napoli, Apulia and Marche are returned to Venice, cores included, in exchange of the Iberian provinses of Oporto and Algarve. As payment for infrastructure, The Doge will finance the Spanish empire with 750 ducats.

I the new world Spain offers Rio Grande and Matagorda to The Doge, who in return finances the Spanish Empire with an additional 80 ducats.

Signed

The Doge of Venice King of Spain
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you know, usually it is left to the players themselves to sign ;)
 
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