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We find it amusing that you now seek warm relations with england and others and try to build coalition against germans. Why should these other nations trust you over us? You are the ones who stab people in the back. We germans fight with honor. We state our demmands and then fight war direct. You exploit situations to further your goals. You wait til their backs are turned and then kick them when they are down as sweden would have to us.
 
France is not building any kind of coalition, nor is there any need to do such a thing, a simple fact clearly visible from a casual glance on a map shows a group of countries unhappy with Prussian expansion simply exists.

France is only trying to settle her issues and disputes in a peaceful way, a concept clearly unknown in Berlin.
 
Regardless of the last events, Louis XIV offers Austria cooperation in returning her other ancient land: Bohemia.

France hopes good relations with England will come out of this and replace the current rather cold ones.

Perhaps we should talk some more with Sweden, regardless of England and her money and her threats…

France is not building any kind of coalition, nor is there any need to do such a thing, a simple fact clearly visible from a casual glance on a map shows a group of countries unhappy with Prussian expansion simply exists.

France is only trying to settle her issues and disputes in a peaceful way, a concept clearly unknown in Berlin.

the french diplomats are almost as funny to us as your generals. :rofl:
 
The Doge clearly reconises tensions between France and Brandenburg, but since this conflict is beyond our borders, we declare ourselves neutral in this dispute.

Should you be unable to come to terms, we therefore offer our services as peacenegotiater, so that northern Europe won't be in flames for the next many years, while England continues is expansion policies overseas.
 
Since it's obvious that Venice can not defend her carribean possessions England offers to purchase them from her to prevent a ruthless naval power to cease them from Venice without any payment what-so-ever.

As for the French-German war England was threathened by Sweden to stay out of the war, which England also did. But answering the threat in kind, that Sweden should do the same, as to not use the, what in diplomatical circles nowadays fashionably is called "the french Manouver", attacking a nation, OR it's alliance, while already at war, felt very justified. No cash was distributed but England remained strictly neutral. England's passive stance might very well cahnge in the near future. Nearby nations should make an effort to contact an English embassy and catch up on relations.
 
juv95hrn said:
As for the French-German war England was threathened by Sweden to stay out of the war, which England also did. But answering the threat in kind, that Sweden should do the same, .

Well, the contrary dear king of england... you first threatened sweden and later when you talked about the normandy issue you were threatened in return...
Actually, at the time you threatened sweden, the swedes were not thinking of a possible dow because this war was a 2 vs 2 and so didn't seem to need a third intervention.
Only later this would have been thinkable, but we didn't as england was staying out of the war.
 
cheech said:
. You wait til their backs are turned and then kick them when they are down as sweden would have to us.

And when did sweden do that ?? :confused:
When i dowed you it was because of your evil move concerning denmark, and i dowed you when you were in peace and without calling allies, which YOU did.
 
The Doge invites English diplomats to visit him, but warns that rediculios offer like 250 ducats per island will not result in anything.

The diplomatic channel is open 24/7, thou The Doge might be busy or aslepp from time to time.
 
Aladar said:
The Doge invites English diplomats to visit him, but warns that rediculios offer like 250 ducats per island will not result in anything.

The diplomatic channel is open 24/7, thou The Doge might be busy or aslepp from time to time.

250d is the equivalent of 8 English warships and no token sum to be trifled with. However 300d per island should be an extremely generous offer considering that Venice has almost no means whatsoever to defend her possessions.
 
Which is why i am allied to mighty Ottoman. You won't be able to take advantage of an absent Norre next session, remember that.

I've sent you a PM, make your offers there.
 
What a display of English STICK and CARROT diplomacy :rofl:

Too bad Venice and Spain didn't talk more before Spain sold her part of Caribbean. Or before Venice joined the partition of Portugal and Spain just watched and allowed always-and-everywhere-poking-her-nose-England to vassalise Portugal.
 
Barnius said:
Spain just watched and allowed always-and-everywhere-poking-her-nose-England to vassalise Portugal.

yes... my invasion of England right after England did that despite my protests was surely TOTALLY unrelated :rolleyes:
 
England will be happy to help the Turk sink their expensive-to-maintain warship fleet in the caribean leaving their Indian possessions undefended. Keep up your good hopes, dear Doge...


OOC: To be frank this campaign needs a pushy badguy (me). If you prefer I can sit back and hypertech the rest of the campaign but I'd be bored out of my mind.
 
ForzaA said:
yes... my invasion of England right after England did that despite my protests was surely TOTALLY unrelated :rolleyes:

Oh, sorry, clearly I am again mixing two campaigns or whatever, you are right, Spain tried to react.
Well, England is using this now already old and tested method on France too, sort of demmanding our three Indian Ocean islands. As Venice, we are waiting a REASONABLE proposal, or England can just come and take it.

This option is also a measure of REASONABILITY of any proposal to buy colonies: everything cheaper than costs of war to get them would be good for England.
 
juv95hrn said:
England will be happy to help the Turk sink their expensive-to-maintain warship fleet in the caribean leaving their Indian possessions undefended. Keep up your good hopes, dear Doge...


OOC: To be frank this campaign needs a pushy badguy (me). If you prefer I can sit back and hypertech the rest of the campaign but I'd be bored out of my mind.

France can't but agree with English assessment here: Ottoman EMpire is no ally at all when colonies are the issue. Let aside the fact that almost 100% island based nation (in Europe) should be a first grade naval power, Venice should search a naval ally or partner that would intervene against England. Is it hard to exchange mutual Guarantees of Independence if formal alliance is not the best option?

OOC: I kind of agree with Juv here, England was up to now playing very opportunistic and should have already allienated many countries, but if more is needed, Juv is doing a nice job :rofl: .
 
Barnius said:
Oh, sorry, clearly I am again mixing two campaigns or whatever, you are right, Spain tried to react.
Well, England is using this now already old and tested method on France too, sort of demmanding our three Indian Ocean islands. As Venice, we are waiting a REASONABLE proposal, or England can just come and take it.

This option is also a measure of REASONABILITY of any proposal to buy colonies: everything cheaper than costs of war to get them would be good for England.

You have to consider wether a nations ruthless ruler enjoys the fighting. It might be something worth paying for. :)